1951 topps ringside..the secret is out
spazzy
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Boxing may hit its stride next year. The movement on PSA 7s and up are on the rise. I have always thought it was a wonderful set to complete ( some regional shortprints seem to exist)' A few nights ago, a Gino Buonvino in PSA 7 sold for 409.04!!!!!Many PSA 7 commons are in the 30.00 to 35.00 range and up and selling. PSA 5s and 6S are still very reasonable. I wish that that we would have a current price guide devoted to Boxing. Anyone wanting to try something new this year might want to put together a graded or non graded set. They are still affordable and really nice cards......Happy New Year Everyone...Spazzy
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Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
julen
RIP GURU
<< <i>Boxing may hit its stride next year. The movement on PSA 7s and up are on the rise. I have always thought it was a wonderful set to complete ( some regional shortprints seem to exist)' A few nights ago, a Gino Buonvino in PSA 7 sold for 409.04!!!!!Many PSA 7 commons are in the 30.00 to 35.00 range and up and selling. PSA 5s and 6S are still very reasonable. I wish that that we would have a current price guide devoted to Boxing. Anyone wanting to try something new this year might want to put together a graded or non graded set. They are still affordable and really nice cards......Happy New Year Everyone...Spazzy >>
I agree. So you can imagine what the less fashionable and harder to find sets will do.
Arthur
nah doubt it
julen
RIP GURU
I started collecting about 7 years ago and bought my first cards. I then stopped for about 5 years and am now getting back into it. Upon my return cards that I bought for $30 are selling for $100+, and cards I could have bought for $800 (ie I missed out on a John L N174 for that price a few years back) are selling for thousands.
Even a 1901 Ogdens James J Jeffries in almost mint condition that I picked up for $20 when I started - I just saw one sell for $90.
Mind you vintage boxing memorabilia in general has elevated greatly. I sold some of my collection of old memorabilia, including cabinet cards, programs, etc and I got probably 2-3 times more than I originally paid for it. I know cards/memorabilia/etc generally rise in value over years, but it seems that boxing stuff has risen pretty quickly over only a short period of time.
I have probably 25 or so Topps Ringside cards, ungraded, and including the Murphy and Marciano cards in pretty good nick and have been thinnking about putting together the set. This thread may just motivate me that little bit extra
As for the price guide, I know Adam Warshaw is about to release his next one soon, but it would be impossible to keep up with current sales as some cards are being bought for what I see as ridiculous amounts.
<< <i>boxing is a quickly dying sport that has become boring and utterly unmarketable....
jule
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Yes but still wonderful to collect when vintage
<< <i>Just about all vintage boxing cards seem to have risen sharply in value over the past few years. I can see it as I have just re-entered the hobby.
I started collecting about 7 years ago and bought my first cards. I then stopped for about 5 years and am now getting back into it. Upon my return cards that I bought for $30 are selling for $100+, and cards I could have bought for $800 (ie I missed out on a John L N174 for that price a few years back) are selling for thousands.
Even a 1901 Ogdens James J Jeffries in almost mint condition that I picked up for $20 when I started - I just saw one sell for $90.
Mind you vintage boxing memorabilia in general has elevated greatly. I sold some of my collection of old memorabilia, including cabinet cards, programs, etc and I got probably 2-3 times more than I originally paid for it. I know cards/memorabilia/etc generally rise in value over years, but it seems that boxing stuff has risen pretty quickly over only a short period of time.
I have probably 25 or so Topps Ringside cards, ungraded, and including the Murphy and Marciano cards in pretty good nick and have been thinnking about putting together the set. This thread may just motivate me that little bit extra
As for the price guide, I know Adam Warshaw is about to release his next one soon, but it would be impossible to keep up with current sales as some cards are being bought for what I see as ridiculous amounts. >>
Keep us informed on the price guide..I would be interested...Spazzy
Very eagerly.
Arthur
<< <i>they will sell for big bucks after somebody dies in ufc or k1 or whatever MMA sanctioned event and they are forced to close down, giving boxing the driver's seat again....
nah doubt it
julen >>
Cause nobody ever died in the ring in Boxing right?>
i totally support vintage anything collectibles, i am only bagging on modern boxing as we know it.
i used to LOVE boxing, my uncle coaches gold gloves and i have seen many an amateur fight. so i support grass roots level boxing and pay my filthy $$$$$ to watch pacquiao, de la hoya, taylor and other bums fight today, but that still doesn't make boxing sellable or fan friendly.
julen
RIP GURU
2005 Origins Old Judge Brown #/20 and Black 1/1s, 2000 Ultimate Victory Gold #/25
2004 UD Legends Bake McBride autos & parallels, and 1974 Topps #601 PSA 9
Rare Grady Sizemore parallels, printing plates, autographs
Nothing on ebay
<< <i>i don't know about anybody ever getting killed in mma before...
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next month when mirko fights someone might die
I love this card. It has that impromptu feel, like the photographer went to his house looking for him, found him in the backyard warming up and asked for a quick photo. He throws his jacket on the back porch and strikes a pose.
Not uncommon in T9's and T218's
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
<< <i>Two more cards went way over smr on ebay last night....Pete Mead went for 227.50 and Joe Gans went for 177.50. Both were in psa 7 condition. Vintage boxing is just rocking along in '07!!! There are very reasonable priced card in psa 5 or 6. The 7s are just unbelievable right now....spazzy >>
I noticed the trend in PSA 7's on the T-218's last spring. Common boxer T-218's routinely sell over $200 when SMR is $80 - I got close to $300 for a Gans PSA 7 last June. But the track and field athletes routinely sell 2x and higher SMR in high grade. So with the T-218 set, it isn't just a boxing thing - it's a high-grade thing with vintage cards which have recently (past 12-18 months) begun being priced in the SMR.
I won the rocky marciano last night in psa 4 for 147$.. i couldnt find smr value on it. but i hope i didnt overpay to much?
What's the most expensive pre war boxing card? The equivalent of a Mint 9 Goudey Ruth or T206 Cobb?
<< <i>Seems like boxing is still very, very cheap relative to baseball or the other big sports.
What's the most expensive pre war boxing card? The equivalent of a Mint 9 Goudey Ruth or T206 Cobb? >>
probably a Leaf Rocky Graziano..
edited to say - except it's post war ('48). Would have to check Adam Warshaw's book to see what the most expensive pre War is, but I doubt it would top the Graziano.
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
A T218 Jack Johnson books at $800 in NM-MT. A T220 Sullivan in Mint 9 at $2,500 (although these are obviously absurdly low if any ever came up for sale).
When you compare that to a T206 Cobb or Walter Johnson for $10 or $15 k in PSA 8, or similar pre WWI cards, boxing still has alot of upside potential.
Vintage Boxing
-Tom
------- 1960 Topps Baseball PSA 8+
------- 1985 Topps Hockey PSA 9+