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Fletcher

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Wolf359

What a tremendous looking coin. But the colors are...strange.

NGC has had a number of problems with AT coins in their holders, the Peace dollar fiasco, Battle Creek, etc. The coin is fine if you don't intend to cross it
to PCGS (and I'm not sure why you'd need to), otherwise I'd leave it alone.

stev32k

That is a spectacular coin. A Morgan quarter - that is special regardless of AT or NT.

dragon

If that color and vibrancy is true to life, I have never seen original copper of any denomination tone that way under normal circumstances.

Fletcher

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dragon

<<< I think that the photo is likely a true representation of the coin. >>>


Well in that case I'd say that coin has been chemically treated, especially the area in front of her neck which turned a deep royal blue. Maybe the coin was dipped or lightly wiped at one time and all that blue is masking it. It somewhat resembles all those silly looking blue proof Indian cents that were treated with MS70 and acetone.

bestclser1

Fletcher,I owned the pattern at one time.Gorgeous coin.ONLY reason i sold it was that even though i believe it to be NT,since all the information about copper alteration came out,i didnt want to keep it forever just in case.Hope this helps,and the pic is a good representation of the coin.

Regulated

When looking at vibrantly toned copper patterns, it is important to remember that many of the pieces we know today were a part of a U.S. Mint hoard that was traded to a pair of Philadelphia coin dealers in exchange for the return of Judd-1546 and Judd-1548 (the two Half-Union patterns in gold). To the best of my knowledge, many of these hoard patterns were stored in the original mint tissue paper from the time that they were struck until at least 1909, resulting in many intensely toned pieces. Obviously, it would be hard to tell whether this piece is AT or NT without having it in hand (and some would argue that even then it would be impossible to discern with any certainty), but there is a decent likelihood that this piece is NT...

anablep

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Love the color of that quarter. Wow.

MrEureka

To the best of my knowledge, many of these hoard patterns were stored in the original mint tissue paper from the time that they were struck until at least 1909, resulting in many intensely toned pieces.

Where the h*ll did you get that?

And welcome home!


Edited to say that MS70 or ammonia would be my guess.

dragon

In addition, and assuming that pic is accurate, it seems very unlikely to me that coin would have such deep blue color in the fields and yet remain untoned in the deepest crevices of the obverse such as the ear hole, lines in hair, letters in LIBERTY, etc.


Yep.....that one's definately been messed with IMO.

GoldenEyeNumismatics

whether is is AT or not, it is market acceptable, and quite honestly that is all that really matters today

Fletcher

<< <i>whether is is AT or not, it is market acceptable, and quite honestly that is all that really matters today >>



Lol "market acceptable" ... not to me