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By definition, how can this be a 67?

BoomBoom Posts: 10,165 ✭
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If we read the given definitions of each grade as provided by "the House", how then can this be a PCGS 67? Really!? imageimage
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  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    You can't judge the technical attributes of the coin from the images but the toning on the reverse looks rather attractive.
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  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165 ✭
    I'm referring to the fingerprint laden Obverse.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,705 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Of course it's a 67. Drink some Kool Aid and go take another look. image

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  • jbstevenjbsteven Posts: 6,178 ✭
    there is a PCGS ms68 Morgan dollar with a HUGE fingerprint on it. It's a Jack Lee pedigree.
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm referring to the fingerprint laden Obverse. >>


    That's not a fingerprint, it's textile toning.















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  • 53BKid53BKid Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭
    Yuk!

    It'd look better body bagged.
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  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,465 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<That's not a fingerprint, it's textile toning.>>


    I've seen that type of toning elsewhere, not very pretty. image
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  • DabigkahunaDabigkahuna Posts: 3,419
    Fingerprint?

    Looks like bag toning to me. I like it!
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  • elwoodelwood Posts: 2,414 ✭


    That's not a fingerprint it's 2 fingerprints.

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  • ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,083 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The only way it could be a "67" is if it was a 1967!
  • ArgentumRexArgentumRex Posts: 620 ✭


    << <i>That's not a fingerprint, it's textile toning. >>




    Tactile toning image


    That's a coin I would personally pass on. I'm not a fan of huge distractions on supposed superb gem coinage, and fingerprints turn my stomach. It might be very nice otherwise, but not for me.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,622 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>That's not a fingerprint, it's textile toning. >>




    Tactile toning image


    That's a coin I would personally pass on. I'm not a fan of huge distractions on supposed superb gem coinage, and fingerprints turn my stomach. It might be very nice otherwise, but not for me. >>



    Tactile Toning! I love it!
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  • BikingnutBikingnut Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭✭
    Finger prints don't bother me. Especially when its on an originally toned coin like this one. I think it adds to the history of the coin.

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  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    From what I see in the images, I have no problem with this one being in a 7 holder. Would like to see it in person though...
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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,978 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is a coin that I would have a very hard time accepting as MS67 because I believe the eye appeal is significantly compromised.
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  • bushmaster8bushmaster8 Posts: 5,616 ✭


    << <i>Fingerprint?
    Looks like bag toning to me. I like it!
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    Most likely, not bag toning, rather, from a mint set.

    If you aquire a taste for coins from the Treasury Mint Sets (1947-1958), you learn to live with fingerprints, as they were assembled with bare hands.
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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    I suspect the coin looks better in-hand than you might expect. Still, I can't see it going 67. Just my opinion.

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  • docgdocg Posts: 528 ✭✭
    Fugly!
  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165 ✭
    Yep, that's a BUNCH of fingerprints, alright. image

    Nauseating. image
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  • mcheathmcheath Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭
    i have a feeling it looks great in hand.
  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165 ✭
    Over the past weekend someone wanted to know "how to".

    I guess you can say this is one way. image
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  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,186 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Someone will pick it up on the cheap because it's not eye appealing. They'll crack it, dip it, resubmit it and sell it for a nice profit.
  • zennyzenny Posts: 1,547 ✭✭


    << <i>I'm referring to the fingerprint laden Obverse. >>




    PCGS definition of ms67:

    MS-67
    This is for "Mint State" (the grade) and "67" (the numerical designation of that grade). A superb-quality coin! Any abrasions are extremely light and do not detract from the coin’s beauty in any way. The strike is extremely sharp (or full) and the luster is outstanding. This is a spectacular coin!



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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,705 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> This is a spectacular coin! >>



    It sure is. image

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  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165 ✭
    Amazing! image
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  • GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374 ✭
    No no no no no........image
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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe it turned in the holderimage
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  • circulatedcirculated Posts: 217
    << I'm referring to the fingerprint laden Obverse. >>

    That's not bin laden, silly. it's washington.
  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    A lot of 67 early commems look like that, why not?------------------BigE
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