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Washington Quarter - Formerly in a PCGS PR70 holder



Amazing what some people expect you to believe!
In the race for quality there is no finish line.

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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,513 ✭✭✭✭✭
    so, what's the population report say?
  • Good question... anyone have a pop report handy?
    In the race for quality there is no finish line.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Think somebody should tell him that PCGS has never graded one in PR70?

    Russ, NCNE
  • compromonedascompromonedas Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭


    << <i>so, what's the population report say? >>


    pop zero!!!!
    keithimage
  • Current pop report: 25 PR69'1 & 0 (ZERO) PR70's image
  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No PF70's in the 10/06 pop report. Total BS.
  • compromonedascompromonedas Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭
    Power seller???image
  • mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭
    maybe he meant the plastic being pf-70

    there's so-so slabs...some plastics real good...why not a pf-70 slaB?

    i read in another thread that ngc is aparently making u.s. coins ...and they're putting them in slabs!...other companies too!

    (isn't that counterfeiting?)image
  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,710 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Current pop report: 25 PR69'1 & 0 (ZERO) PR70's >>



    Heck, maybe the "OLD MAN" sent the cert back to PCGS went he cracked it out image

    GrandAm image
    GrandAm :)
  • 53BKid53BKid Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭
    P.T. Barnum comes to mind.
    HAPPY COLLECTING!!!
  • mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Current pop report: 25 PR69'1 & 0 (ZERO) PR70's >>



    Heck, maybe the "OLD MAN" sent the cert back to PCGS went he cracked it out image

    GrandAm image >>



    hoping for a 71?
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    It's too bad people who post lies like this don't seem to know there's a pop report to look at...
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It's too bad people who post lies like this don't seem to know there's a pop report to look at >>



    Viewing his other listings, I get the impression he doesn't care. Tons of raw junk with ridiculous values listed. Typical eBay con artist.

    Russ, NCNE
  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Like that other joker, PF = pretty fine
  • <<HIS FAMILY WAS SELLING OFF THE COINS BECUASE HE WAS GETTING OLD AND BREAKING OUT OF THE COINS FROM THERE HOLDERS>>

    The old guy was breaking all of the coins out of the holders? Is this common?

    And if he is breaking all of the coins out of "there" holders he is pretty good at not damaging the coins. - still PR70! Or maybe the family was breaking the coins out of the holders (figuring he was old and wouldn't notice)?

    There is a lot that needs to be cleared up here before we can start buying.
  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    I usually don’t make fun of people’s spelling & grammar cause I don’t use the most proper English myself…but when people tell an unbelievable lie and say things like
    HE WAS GETTING OLD AND BREAKING OUT OF THE COINS FROM THERE HOLDERS it just raises red flags all over the place. Especially when he says he’s SOUTH FLORIDAS LARGEST ESTATE BUYERS but the location says Philadelphia, PA,

    Like the old man was inside of the coins & he decided he was BREAKING OUT OF THE COINS.
    What a hilarious scam!
    Also check out his raw MS68 1922 Peace Dollar that’s worth $28,000, and he’s new to the hobby, don’t know how to grade but has over 300 PCGS coins to grade his with. He has a mile long disclaimer about his grading & pictures that sound like rhetoric he copied straight from this board. Must be a member here.

    <<<REASONABLE RESERVE - LOW OPENING BID

    Note that trends indactes the price that this coin is valued at in it's certain grade,all coins are sold raw and are here for you to view.We do not guarantee any coin,nor can any other dealer guarantee you a coin is a certain grade.

    See my other KEY DATE and GEM BU auctions and combine for shipping discount.

    Read the feedback from the most recent buyers of my coins and you'll see that I have provided superior coins at reduced value pricing. I'm not a coin grader or retailer. I'm a private collector who is upgrading my collection who buys more than I need to get what I want, which is why I have so many coins for auction on Ebay. I describe the coins accurately and honestly to the best of my ability, many times using the description of the coin from when I purchased it. I am "new" to collecting and rely many times on those that sell to me to provide a professional description. This is why I recommend that you study the photographs to determine for yourself the coins worth. This is not my business, it's my hobby. I have priced the coins quite modestly with low opening bids as to what they are worth.

    Please allow 2-9 days for delivery of this coin. This is NOT my policy, it's the policy of the POST OFFICE. I ship within 48 hours of payment. If you need the item faster than that, please email me and we can arrange shipping via another method.

    A WORD ABOUT THE PICTURES: I’ve been asked why I include more than one picture in my auctions. The answer is two-fold and simple. I, like many of you have bought coins on eBay and been horribly disappointed because the picture did not really represent the coin correctly. The picture had either been enhanced, or edited or was sometimes not the coin in the picture at all. Knowing how I felt when that happened, I wanted no-one to ever feel that way about a coin they would purchase from me. To that end, rest assured that the coin in the picture is always the coin you will receive. I do not edit, enhance or otherwise distort the picture to sell the coin. Actually, because no coin is perfect (or I’d be selling $1000 coins instead of $100 dollar coins), I make no effort to hide the contact marks whatsoever. Most uncirculated coins have contact marks and rub marks to some extent from bags or rolls they’ve been stored in. Most of the time they are not visible to the eye. Yet, I don’t want you to be disappointed with the coin you get so I try and make sure you will see it with all its flaws prior to your bidding even if the picture exaggerates it. Grading is subjective so I only offer my opinion based on other coins that I own that are slabbed by PCGS and NGC. The second reason I include more than one picture is simple. I’m a lousy photographer with a cheap digital camera. If you read my feedback you’ll see that many times when someone purchases a coin they are quite pleasantly surprised because my photography didn’t show the beauty of the coin. Lastly, the shading and colors in my pictures is always natural sunlight using a cheap camera and flash. Nothing more. Good luck with your bid.



    A WORD ABOUT GRADING: I am not a professional grader by any means, nor do I hold myself out to be one.... nor does this industry have ANY STANDARDS that one needs to meet to become a professional grader/opinion giver. Any grades that I offer are strictly opinions. Sometimes this opinion is based on what I purchased the coin as. Sometimes this opinion is based on local coin dealers opinions. Many times the opinion is based on comparison with over 300 slabbed coins that I have from PCGS and NGC. Most important is that you realize that ALL GRADING is a subjective opinion and can and WILL vary from person to person, and grading service to grading service, and, sometimes WITHIN a grading service as well. Try putting 5/6 slabbed coins from the SAME GRADING SERVICE together and you'll see what I mean. You can submit the same coin to a grading service three times and three times get a different "opinion/grade". The ultimate decision on the grade of the coin is what YOU decide it's worth to you, which is why I submit as many pictures as I do to help you in that decision. The ultimate decision on grade belongs to you with the bid you offer. I offer only my subjective opinion.



    As a basic guide, here is what the standards are via the WHITMAN REDBOOK 2006:

    "MS-64: A few scattered contact marks. Good eye appeal and attractive luster"

    "MS-65: Only light scattered contact marks that are not distracting. Strong luster, good eye appeal".



    Here is what PCGS (#1 Grading service) states as basic grading:

    "MS-64: Few marks. Fairly defined hairlines. One or two severe marks. Strike should be average or above"

    "MS-65: Minor marks though none in focal areas. Defined hairlines. Above average strike"

    "MS-66: Few minor marks. Well defined hairlines. Very well struck"



    Here is what I say: DON'T BUY THE GRADE OPINION OR THE SLAB---BUY THE COIN AT WHAT YOU THINK IT'S WORTH TO YOU!!!!! CHANCES ARE NO ONE WILL AGREE ON ANY GIVEN DAY WITH THE OPINION FROM THE DAY BEFORE!!! BESIDES, IF THE NEW GRADING SYSTEM COMES TO PASS, ALL SLABS AND GRADED COINS YOU OWN NOW ARE OBSOLETE OPINIONS!!!>>>




    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>"MS-66: Few minor marks. Well defined hairlines. Very well struck" >>

    image

    Yeah, I want the hairlines to be VERY well defined on the 66s I buy.
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Power seller???image >>



    Not sure why that bothers you. Power seller just means volume. It's like a car dealer saying they're the biggest in town. has nothing to do with honesty.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Power seller just means volume. It's like a car dealer saying they're the biggest in town. has nothing to do with honesty. >>



    Have you ever read the glowing words eBay uses to define Power Sellers?

    Russ, NCNE
  • <<Like the old man was inside of the coins & he decided he was BREAKING OUT OF THE COINS.>>

    NOW it's starting to make more sense!
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Earn the mark of a high-quality seller

    When buyers see the icon next to a seller's User ID, they know they're working with a seller who ranks among the most successful sellers in terms of product sales and customer satisfaction on eBay. >>



    image

    Russ, NCNE
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Not sure why that bothers you. Power seller just means volume. It's like a car dealer saying they're the biggest in town. has nothing to do with honesty. >>

    True. There are good Power Sellers and not-so-good Power Sellers.

    The problem is that eBay markets them like they are in a Circle of Trust (tm), and some Power Sellers (the ones derisively known as Power Screwers here) take advantage of eBay's tacit endorsement of them by suckering newbies into trusting them and the crap and deception they peddle.
  • Besides being a liar & a scam artist - blatant keyword spamming. imageimage
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The problem is that eBay markets them like they are in a Circle of Trust (tm), and some Power Sellers (the ones derisively known as Power Screwers here) take advantage of eBay's tacit endorsement of them by suckering newbies into trusting them and the crap and deception they peddle. >>



    In addition, the threshold for power seller status is set so low that it's meaningless. Any dipwad can scrounge up enough junk to sell $1000 a month.

    Russ, NCNE
  • mrpaseomrpaseo Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭
    I was going to point out the fact that she has a 1972 set listed, 1972-SET-IN-ORIGINAL-PROOF-ALL-DEEP-CAMEO-COINS and within that auction she states: I HAVE PROVIDED PICTURES AND CLOSE UPS OF SOME OF THE COINS IN THIS COLLECTION


    And the only photo she provides is this:

    image

    But you have done such a good job at pointing out how much of an loser he is that I don't feel I need to state my opinion....


    lol,
    Ray


    Edited to add the obvious... the picture is of a 1971 set...

    Edited again to change the gender ofmy message as I believe her name is: KRISTIN SMITH CEPPALUNI as stated under the payment section in the auctions.
  • 123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    All I can say that if someone is going to make those kind of statements they better have the slab or slab label to prove it.
    image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    BTW, even though he is no longer here, Coinguy1 is still on the job. He eMailed me earlier today about this seller.

    Russ, NCNE
  • coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭


    << <i>BTW, even though he is no longer here, Coinguy1 is still on the job. He eMailed me earlier today about this seller.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    *sigh*

  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    I ran into some of his stuff during a search last week.

    What a story!

    President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay

  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,547 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A total scam. If the slab somehow broke, then the seller should include the slab insert. Also, the fact that PCGS hasn't graded any in Pr-70 is certainly an issue. image

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

  • compromonedascompromonedas Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭
    My email to the seller yesterday:
    "Did you know that pcgs had never grade any 1955 washington quarter pf70? "
    Today
    This listing (330066276833) has been removed or is no longer available. Please make sure you entered the right item numberponse:

    keith


  • << <i>My email to the seller yesterday:
    "Did you know that pcgs had never grade any 1955 washington quarter pf70? "
    Today
    This listing (330066276833) has been removed or is no longer available. Please make sure you entered the right item numberponse:

    keith >>




    nice image
    In the race for quality there is no finish line.
  • 53BKid53BKid Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭
    I can just see an old senilel geezer sitting there cracking out all his PCGS graded 70s when his son walks in and sees what he's done.

    'Dad, what are you doing? Are you out of your mind??? I'm taking all these away from you and giving them over to that nice estate buyer...'

    And if you can believe that, there's this bridge....
    HAPPY COLLECTING!!!
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    It's been relisted.

    So have the others that eBay nuked.

    Russ, NCNE
  • Sent to the seller:

    Don't you know we realize that you ended a prior auction after it was pointed out that a PR70 PCGS never existed for this date/mint? To relist it makes it pretty clear that you're a "Power Scammer."


    Let's see what happens this time.
    In the race for quality there is no finish line.

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