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Does a rim cud on a Monster MS 66 coin increase or decrease the value of the coin?

TrimeTrime Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭
Does a rim cud on a Monster MS 66 coin increase or decrease the value of the coin?
I acquired a terrific coin today; PCGS copper-nickel MS66 ++++++ copper nickel IHC.
The coin has thick skin, pristine original coloring with subtle but very original toning, huge luster and excellent strike. the surfaces are terrific. It does come from a cracked die with a 25 degree pristine cud at the rim. The coin is a candidate for MS67 status. Does the die crack and rim cud reduce the chances of an upgrade to a more lofty grade status?
Trime

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  • raysrays Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes.
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    It definitely adds an identifier to the coin and some personality and I like cents with cracks, clashes and cuds, but I honestly have no idea if it affects grading. I don't see why it should.
  • If I'm looking for nice gem+ material for a non-error/variety collection, then this sort of thing is a detractor (to me). To what extent, if any, would depend on how I actually liked the coin in hand, of course. But most likely, if I could magically have my choice between the exact same coin with and without the cud, the "normal" coin wins. I think a higher grade error coin might be a bit of a white elephant unless the error is really remarkable in itself. Perhaps PCGS needs an error registry to correct this grievous state of affairs. I don't know how it would affect the grade.
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    On an MS66 IHC of the vintage you're speaking of I would find it a detractor--I'd rather have a better example from the mint.

    If the coin was xf45 or below, then I would call it an interesting adder.

    On Large cents I prefer nicely centered and well struck coins. Others may be just as original but I like to see good work from the mint--perhaps this relates to my appreciation for modern 70s.

    edited to add: same with planchet flaws. they don't do much for me and i'm ok with them only on rarest of coins, such as a 93 large cent I have my eye on.

    --Jerry
  • CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139
    Coins with rim cuds generally indicate high rarity terminal states for any series. They add value thus naturally. Sometimes, however, there ar eintermediate die states leading up to that one that prove to be far rarer.
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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    For me, a rim cud adds value on low grade coins, but subtracts value on high grade coins.

    We'd love to see an image if you have one.

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  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭


    << <i>For me, a rim cud adds value on low grade coins, but subtracts value on high grade coins.

    We'd love to see an image if you have one. >>

    image
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.

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