Question - why do the Topps FB heritage sets suck in comparison to the baseball heritage sets?

gregm13

I've bought 2 blaster boxes and really don't like the design nor the inserts. I really wish Topps would stop making their football sets a lower end product compared to the baseball sets. My main gripes:

1. Set design sucks. I'd rather see a vintage football design as is done with baseball. 1956 one year, 1957 the next and so on.
2. The autographs suck. Why are there sticker auto's in the football product and not in baseball????
3. The augtraph selection sucks. I'd rather see a ton of autographs from players actually playing back in the 50's / 60's even if they were average or semi-star players. Why couldn't Topps get a nice array of players to sign (such as with the 2004 Fan Favorite set - which is one of my favorite football sets in the past 10 years).
4. Less of the crappy inserts (New Age Performers, Then and Now, Flashbacks) and more jersey/chrome/refractors/auto's/ect...
5. Stick with a plan and go with it... Topps has gone back and forth over the past 5 years, releasing the 2001 Heritage set which was ok but was more watered down than the baseball set - which is why it didn't sell that well. Then Topps Issued the All American set which was all sticker auto's (which I didn't buy) and last year the Heritage set was a mix of a bunch of different designs which I really didn't like and this year is the 1952 Topps baseball design...which I don't get.

Sorry to gripe, but I go crazy reading the Baseball Topps Heritage threads (even though I don't collect baseball cards) and wish there was something comparable w/ football that I could collect.

Regards,

Greg M.

joestalin

Its simple, vintage baseball has WAAAAAAAY more draw than vintage football. Think about it, whats easier for most of us to
do, name player in the 52 topps set or name players in the 57 football set?

Thanks
Kevin

jradke4

it depends on if you like football a lot more than baseball.

Ahmanfan

I could name a lot more players in the '57 football set. I think the 06 heritage football isn't bad looking, but why make it look like a vintage baseball set and not one of the (many) great looking vintage football sets?
John

detroitfan2

One of life's great mysteries to me is why Topps mucked with their Heritage strategy in regards to football, hockey, and basketball. The first Heritage release for each of those sports was awesome, and it seems like they were wildly popular. Try finding an unopened box of the Heritage hockey release with the "TV" style cards (or any unopened Heritage hockey box, for that matter). Nobody has them.

So I'll never understand why Topps stopped the Heritage basketball and hockey releases, and I have no clue why they're doing what they're doing with the football releases. I agree with everything gregm13 says.

The other thing that bothers me to no end is how Topps is releasing every possible type of card from all sports and even entertainment cards with the 1952 Topps design. #1 they just look stupid, and #2 some things aren't meant to be copied. The 2001 Heritage baseball was superb, but I don't think I need a card of Carmen Electra or even Kobe Bryant for that matter with a 1952 Topps design.

gregm13

<< <i>Its simple, vintage baseball has WAAAAAAAY more draw than vintage football. Think about it, whats easier for most of us to
do, name player in the 52 topps set or name players in the 57 football set?

Thanks
Kevin >>



Granted, vintage baseball has more of a fan base than vintage football...no agruments there. However, why not stick with the same strategy as baseball and issue from the 1956 design forward. There are many great football sets - personally, I love the 1959 set and would love a heritage set with the 1959 look. On top of that, why are football autographs on stickers while the baseball autographs are on the cards?

Personally, I think there has been a resurgance of interest in vintage football and a well made product would be warmly accepted in the hobby. I'm only 32 but almost strictly collect vintage fb.

Regards,

Greg M.

gregm13

<< <i>One of life's great mysteries to me is why Topps mucked with their Heritage strategy in regards to football, hockey, and basketball. The first Heritage release for each of those sports was awesome, and it seems like they were wildly popular. Try finding an unopened box of the Heritage hockey release with the "TV" style cards (or any unopened Heritage hockey box, for that matter). Nobody has them.

So I'll never understand why Topps stopped the Heritage basketball and hockey releases, and I have no clue why they're doing what they're doing with the football releases. I agree with everything gregm13 says.

The other thing that bothers me to no end is how Topps is releasing every possible type of card from all sports and even entertainment cards with the 1952 Topps design. #1 they just look stupid, and #2 some things aren't meant to be copied. The 2001 Heritage baseball was superb, but I don't think I need a card of Carmen Electra or even Kobe Bryant for that matter with a 1952 Topps design. >>



Great point - no offense, but I could care less about the 1952 Topps baseball design.... It really doesn't do anything for me.

Regards,

Greg M.

joestalin

Good observations, but for the most part the 2001 heritage football, basketball and hockey did not sell well. The football release was
just overshadowed by other products. I thought it was pretty strong and the rookie class was amazing. Basketball just didn't work, no
MJ no Kobe and no sick rookie class. I also liked the design of this, but no one else did. Hockey I guess was popular, but topps just
doesn't do hockey now.

Topps has had good luck with the 52 design,both in baseball and last year with 52 style basketball, however I think they are going to the
well too often.

JS

tedh111

I think the main reason is not that many people are collecting football sets anymore especially compared to baseball...

Stone193

Personally, I thought the overall card design was not that good.

The color was too muted and affected and lacked that 50s authenticity and the sig lines were awful.

I bought one blaster and was done.

Merry Christmas
mike

CopperJJ

Greg was saying ....we need "on card" autos for the 06 Heritage FB. I agree 100 %, so here you go.

zef204

<< <i>I think the main reason is not that many people are collecting football sets anymore especially compared to baseball... >>

Compared to baseball, probably not as many. But we're out here. There are a lot of football collectors.

I agree, the basball design on football cards look ridiculous. I have not been much of a heritage collector in the past, but the one box I bought I could swear had the 57 FB design.