How much are Waitangi crowns selling for?

shirohniichan · December 21, 2006 1:03AM

I'm looking for a 1935 NZ Waitangi crown in AU to MS62, and I see one in the upcoming Stacks auction.

What are these selling for these days? BTW, I'm not interested in proofs.

laurentyvan · December 21, 2006 1:34AM

Wow! Not an inexpensive coin... I believe the 1930's example runs approx. $2000 to $4000 dollars-obviously less at the high end if you aren't interested in a proof.

7Jaguars · December 21, 2006 2:03AM

I think you have to assume $4k as these have gone for above 2k pounds sterling. They did have high survival rate but retain a certain popularity and the market in Aussie plus to some degree NZ material is rather buoyant.

shirohniichan · December 21, 2006 2:22AM

$4 grand?! Oy gewalt-- I'd best look for one in VF to EF.

I only applied for a credit limit of $2,500 for the Stacks auction because I didn't know a Waitangi would be offered.

MrEureka · December 21, 2006 9:00AM

do these even exist in circulated grades? Every one I have seen has been PL or PR, and the average grade has been 63+.

shirohniichan · December 21, 2006 9:08AM

<< do these even exist in circulated grades? Every one I have seen has been PL or PR, and the average grade has been 63+. >>

I've seen one in EF before (at least the scan made it look EF). Didn't cacheman inquire on a circulated one from a seller in Japan? This is one of those coins that is so rare a few grade points don't make much of a difference in price.

MrEureka · December 21, 2006 10:18AM

This is one of those coins that is so rare a few grade points don't make much of a difference in price.

Wait until a 67 comes to market!

7Jaguars · December 21, 2006 2:15PM

No, have not seen this with any circulation - hairlines maybe and a little bit of cabinet friction. No pocket pieces (hey that sounds rude)...

FilamCoins · December 21, 2006 7:53PM

Best guess estimates:

AU-50: $1200
AU-58: $1800
MS-62: $2800
MS-65: $4000+

Don't show up very often in circulated condition.

A wonderful coin!

shirohniichan · December 22, 2006 12:01AM

<< Best guess estimates:

AU-50: $1200
AU-58: $1800
MS-62: $2800
MS-65: $4000+

Don't show up very often in circulated condition.

A wonderful coin!
>>

Yea, verily. While blast white coins are nice, too, I like the mottled look of this one.

I would have imagined the values to be closer together, as in the case of the 1903-O Morgan dollar. When I looked at getting one of the latter to add to a collection of "has been" rarities, I was surprised to see less than a $100 spread between a VF and MS63.

Would it be fair to say hypothetical Waitangi values may be as follows?

EF: $1,600
AU: $1,800
MS60: $2,200
MS63: $2,500

FilamCoins · December 22, 2006 12:45PM

I've only been following NZ for a few years, but I'd say if you can get the Stacks coin or another example in choice UNC for $2,500, you've done well!

1960NYGiants · December 23, 2006 2:25PM

There's one in the upcoming Heritage auction: lot # 52448 "choice prooflike UNC" estimate: $2000-2500

FilamCoins · January 5, 2007 1:15PM

<< There's one in the upcoming Heritage auction: lot # 52448 "choice prooflike UNC" estimate: $2000-2500 >>

Up to $3,700 already with 2 days remaining and no floor bids yet!!

shirohniichan · January 6, 2007 1:47AM

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<< There's one in the upcoming Heritage auction: lot # 52448 "choice prooflike UNC" estimate: $2000-2500 >>

Up to $3,700 already with 2 days remaining and no floor bids yet!! >>

It looks like it has already gone beyond my budget!

7Jaguars · January 6, 2007 1:41PM

Sometimes these will go cheaper in "fish out of water" sales, where the auction material is oriented toward different coins - even in London some of the auctions will see them go cheaper. Although I like Heritage sales, they are not always the place to pick up bargains! Keep looking, and one may show up in your price range.

shirohniichan · January 16, 2007 3:47PM

I was "only" about $1,100 short in my bid on the Stacks' Waitangi.

FilamCoins · January 16, 2007 4:38PM

<< I was "only" about $1,100 short in my bid on the Stacks' Waitangi.

>>

What did it finally go for???

shirohniichan · January 17, 2007 12:27AM

I think it was $3,450.

7Jaguars · January 17, 2007 12:53AM

Actually, if so, a fair price - was that with the commission? Shiro, do you know the prices from the Ponterio sale?

shirohniichan · January 17, 2007 3:29AM

<< Actually, if so, a fair price - was that with the commission? Shiro, do you know the prices from the Ponterio sale? >>

I think it was. I didn't follow the Ponterio auction. Was there a Waitangi in that auction, too?

7Jaguars · January 17, 2007 3:58AM

Uhh, think not but was trying to find out what the Great Britain 1948 proof set went for???

coinpictures · January 22, 2007 5:55AM

FYI, NEN has just added an NGC PF63 for $3,500.

shirohniichan · January 22, 2007 9:07AM

<< FYI, NEN has just added an NGC PF63 for $3,500. >>

Thanks, but I only collect business strikes for my George V collection. I think I'm going to have to start a coin account and save, save, save.

FilamCoins · January 26, 2007 8:34PM

The Ponterio Waitangi (which I thought may have been the nicest of the three) only went for $2,900.

I was the underbidder.

FilamCoins · January 8, 2008 2:02PM

Let's see if I get lucky this time; one year later; different coin.

lordmarcovan · January 8, 2008 10:14PM

<< How much are Waitangi crowns selling for? >>

More than I can afford, unless I dumped one of my collections!

How much are Waitangi crowns selling for?

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