Grades poppped... a beat down, but with a happy ending *** (with scans)
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Ever get that feeling when you're excited and disappointed at the same time? Kinda like two opposites striving for dominance. That's what I got when I checked out my subs.
When I saw grades scroll down the page, my heat started jumping, and I decided to close the window, get some water, and come back. I shrinked my browser window so I'd see 1 grade at a time as I scrolled down. The +/- is how off I was on my estimation.
1 1954 TOPPS 180 WES WESTRUM N/A 6 (-1)
2 1958 TOPPS 468 BOB SCHMIDT N/A 7 (-2, I really thought this was a solid 9)
3 1959 TOPPS 377 JOHNNY ANTONELLI N/A 7
4 1960 TOPPS 287 FELIPE ALOU N/A 7
5 1960 TOPPS 450 ORLANDO CEPEDA N/A 6 (-1)
6 1960 TOPPS 469 SAN FRAN. GIANTS COACHES 8
7 1961 TOPPS 167 GIANTS TEAM N/A 8
8 1961 TOPPS 150 WILLIE MAYS N/A 6
9 1961 TOPPS 435 ORLANDO CEPEDA N/A 7
10 1961 TOPPS 517 WILLIE McCOVEY N/A 7
11 1962 TOPPS 300 WILLIE MAYS N/A 5
12 1963 TOPPS 169 1963 ROOKIE STARS N/A 6 (-1)
13 1963 TOPPS 520 ORLANDO CEPEDA N/A 6 (-1)
14 1964 TOPPS 468 GAYLORD PERRY N/A 6 (-1)
15 1965 TOPPS 50 JUAN MARICHAL N/A Not Holdered, Miscut (-8, ARAGH!!!!!!)
16 1965 TOPPS 176 WILLIE McCOVEY N/A 8 (+1)
17 1965 TOPPS 360 ORLANDO CEPEDA N/A 6 (-1)
18 1966 TOPPS 132 ORLANDO CEPEDA N/A 8 (+1)
19 1966 TOPPS 511 GIANTS ROOKIES B.BARTON/T.FUENTES 7
20 1967 TOPPS 480 WILLIE McCOVEY N/A 6
21 1968 TOPPS 525 JIM DAVENPORT N/A 8
22 1969 TOPPS 630 BOBBY BONDS ALL-STAR ROOKIE 7
23 1970 TOPPS 210 JUAN MARICHAL N/A 8 (+1)
24 1970 TOPPS 250 WILLIE McCOVEY N/A 8 (+1)
25 1970 TOPPS 337 MIKE McCORMICK N/A 8
26 1971 TOPPS 600 WILLIE MAYS N/A 8 (+1)
Date Received: 11/30/2006
Date of Grades Posted: 12/14/2006
Date Shipped: No Date Specified
by the time I scrolled to 26, my heart had sunk. I was 13 for 25 so far with my pre-grades, with 7 lower and 4 higher. Then line 26. Very, very nice. I picked the 71 Mays up as a ex/mt, but figured it had a great shot at a NM. Ended up getting 1 higher. Sweet. That pretty much pays for the sub right there if I decided to flip it.
The miscut sucks. Sweet looking card, just a touch wide. Well, at least it didn't come back as "trimmed."
When I saw grades scroll down the page, my heat started jumping, and I decided to close the window, get some water, and come back. I shrinked my browser window so I'd see 1 grade at a time as I scrolled down. The +/- is how off I was on my estimation.
1 1954 TOPPS 180 WES WESTRUM N/A 6 (-1)
2 1958 TOPPS 468 BOB SCHMIDT N/A 7 (-2, I really thought this was a solid 9)
3 1959 TOPPS 377 JOHNNY ANTONELLI N/A 7
4 1960 TOPPS 287 FELIPE ALOU N/A 7
5 1960 TOPPS 450 ORLANDO CEPEDA N/A 6 (-1)
6 1960 TOPPS 469 SAN FRAN. GIANTS COACHES 8
7 1961 TOPPS 167 GIANTS TEAM N/A 8
8 1961 TOPPS 150 WILLIE MAYS N/A 6
9 1961 TOPPS 435 ORLANDO CEPEDA N/A 7
10 1961 TOPPS 517 WILLIE McCOVEY N/A 7
11 1962 TOPPS 300 WILLIE MAYS N/A 5
12 1963 TOPPS 169 1963 ROOKIE STARS N/A 6 (-1)
13 1963 TOPPS 520 ORLANDO CEPEDA N/A 6 (-1)
14 1964 TOPPS 468 GAYLORD PERRY N/A 6 (-1)
15 1965 TOPPS 50 JUAN MARICHAL N/A Not Holdered, Miscut (-8, ARAGH!!!!!!)
16 1965 TOPPS 176 WILLIE McCOVEY N/A 8 (+1)
17 1965 TOPPS 360 ORLANDO CEPEDA N/A 6 (-1)
18 1966 TOPPS 132 ORLANDO CEPEDA N/A 8 (+1)
19 1966 TOPPS 511 GIANTS ROOKIES B.BARTON/T.FUENTES 7
20 1967 TOPPS 480 WILLIE McCOVEY N/A 6
21 1968 TOPPS 525 JIM DAVENPORT N/A 8
22 1969 TOPPS 630 BOBBY BONDS ALL-STAR ROOKIE 7
23 1970 TOPPS 210 JUAN MARICHAL N/A 8 (+1)
24 1970 TOPPS 250 WILLIE McCOVEY N/A 8 (+1)
25 1970 TOPPS 337 MIKE McCORMICK N/A 8
26 1971 TOPPS 600 WILLIE MAYS N/A 8 (+1)
Date Received: 11/30/2006
Date of Grades Posted: 12/14/2006
Date Shipped: No Date Specified
by the time I scrolled to 26, my heart had sunk. I was 13 for 25 so far with my pre-grades, with 7 lower and 4 higher. Then line 26. Very, very nice. I picked the 71 Mays up as a ex/mt, but figured it had a great shot at a NM. Ended up getting 1 higher. Sweet. That pretty much pays for the sub right there if I decided to flip it.
The miscut sucks. Sweet looking card, just a touch wide. Well, at least it didn't come back as "trimmed."
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nice!!
julen
RIP GURU
I see some nice grades in there.
When ya get the cards - could ya post a scan of the 65T McCovey - I have that card raw in like a 4?
And also the 71T Mays?
Thanx
mike
<< <i>Digi - why so many 6's? Corner wear? Centering? >>
Good question. I wrote on the submission form "No qualifiers if the next lowest grade would suffice." I basically didn't want a card with 9 everything and 8 centering to get graded a PSA 9 oc. I'd rather have the 8. However, if the card is 9 everything, 5 centering, I'll take the 9 oc. Anyways, I think they just figured "No Qualifiers" and left it at that. Lets take a look...
1 1954 TOPPS 180 WES WESTRUM N/A 6 (-1)
This one really surprised me. I figured it for a high-end 7 or low-end 8. Centering was, at worse, 33/67, which is within 8 guidelines. Edges were sweet, but there was a touch of corner wear that didn't look worse than a solid 7. I don't know what I missed.
5 1960 TOPPS 450 ORLANDO CEPEDA N/A 6 (-1)
Great looking card. It was rather oc, 29/71 at the worse spot, but it was t/b centering (if you turned the card on it's side). That's within 7 guidelines. Three corners were very lightly touched. I have worse looking 7s.
8 1961 TOPPS 150 WILLIE MAYS N/A 6
Expected. Corner wear. I just wanted it slabbed.
11 1962 TOPPS 300 WILLIE MAYS N/A 5
Horrible centering l/r centering (just a bit better than 80/20), but beautiful corners and edges. A bit of print snow though in an otherwise dark and colorful surface.
12 1963 TOPPS 169 1963 ROOKIE STARS N/A 6 (-1)
60/40 centering. 3 lightly touched corners. I figured it'd be a solid 7.
13 1963 TOPPS 520 ORLANDO CEPEDA N/A 6 (-1)
I figured the centering (65/35) and 4 lightly touched corners would drop it into the 7 range.
14 1964 TOPPS 468 GAYLORD PERRY N/A 6 (-1)
Centering was 68/32, with 3 lightly touched corners and one corner suffering a little more fraying. I guess I should have figured a 6 on this one.
17 1965 TOPPS 360 ORLANDO CEPEDA N/A 6 (-1)
Centering was 27/73, with 3 lightly touched corners. This one was borderline, but I figured it was weighted more on the 7 side.
20 1967 TOPPS 480 WILLIE McCOVEY N/A 6
Expected. Centering was 23/77 with two lightly touched corners. If I resubmitted it, it'd have come back a PSA 8 oc. Woth the same on the registry, but I think "PSA 8 oc" better describes the card than "psa 6."
I was a little surprised. Looking through my collection, I figured I had a pretty good idea of what a PSA 6 and a PSA 7 looked like.
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1961 Topps Willie McCovey PSA 7
1965 Topps Willie McCovey PSA 8
1970 Topps Willie McCovey PSA 8
1971 Topps Willie Mays PSA 8
1961 Topps Orlando Cepeda PSA 7
1966 Topps Orlando Cepeda PSA 8
And some of the stuff I thought could pull 7s.
1960 Topps Orlando Cepeda PSA 6
1963 Topps Orlando Cepeda PSA 6
1965 Topps Orlando Cepeda PSA 6
1963 Topps Rookie Stars (Gaylord Perry) PSA 6
1964 Topps Gaylord Perry PSA 6
1962 Topps Willie Mays PSA 5
I'm guessing that the way PSA treats the "snow" on cards is -1 grade from it's maximum grade w/o the snow. Centering is within the PSA 6 range, but with the snow, I guess they knocked it down. Oh well. Considering that I paid $10 (ten) for the card, I think I did pretty good.
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<< <i>Sorry to play devil's advocate, but I think that 66 Cepeda could have received a PD. There is some type of smudge, from printing wheels (??), on the left side of the card near the border and the picture that runs from top to bottom. >>
Yup, I was wondering about that too. With "no qualifiers" requested, I figured it'd get a 7 at best, 6 at worse. The 8 was a surprise. But, I guess they were considering it a "minor" printing imperfection. I've got a 1967 Topps Gaylord Perry PSA 8 with a similar print line going down one of the outer borders. Oh well. I'm happy with it, and it lives a happy life in my registry collection.
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<< <i>The centering on the 62 Mays is really within PSA6 guidelines. Its nearly 95/5 L/R >>
Actually, this is what 80/20 looks like. It was directly on the edge, but fell off the 5 end instead of the 6.
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<< <i>Sorry to play devil's advocate, but I think that 66 Cepeda could have received a PD. There is some type of smudge, from printing wheels (??), on the left side of the card near the border and the picture that runs from top to bottom. >>
Yup, I was wondering about that too. With "no qualifiers" requested, I figured it'd get a 7 at best, 6 at worse. The 8 was a surprise. But, I guess they were considering it a "minor" printing imperfection. I've got a 1967 Topps Gaylord Perry PSA 8 with a similar print line going down one of the outer borders. Oh well. I'm happy with it, and it lives a happy life in my registry collection.
Oh, did not realize you asked for NQ. Looks like PSA did a good job on their grades.