Allen Iverson to the TIMBERWOLVES?
KalineFan
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Lots of talk in the Sunday Sports section today about the ANSWER wanting to play with
Kevin Garnett. AI wanting out of PHILLY and wants to play for a "WINNER".
I have mixed emotions about this, but....I am too tired to think about it tonight!
I am hitting the sack, but what do you all think about this?
Thanks,
Tony
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<< <i>Iverson is the type of player that is destroying the NBA. I wouldn't pay a dime to watch him. >>
What!?
Can you explain that or do you just throw out those bold statements?
He is one of the hardest working players in the league.
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<< <i>Iverson is the type of player that is destroying the NBA. I wouldn't pay a dime to watch him. >>
What!?
Can you explain that or do you just throw out those bold statements?
He is one of the hardest working players in the league. >>
I agree. That is one of the most short-sighted comments I've ever seen on this board. He SINGLE-HANDEDLY guided them to the 2001 NBA Finals with his hard work and desire...
<< <i>I guess it's just the whole image thing. Michael Jordan didn't look like a thug and argue with his coach. I miss the old days of basketball when players didn't look and act like they were pulled straight from the streets of some ghetto and put in a basketball arena. Lebron James doesn't look or act like that. He's got class. Magic Johnson had class, Larry Bird had class, many of today's players take it all for granted. >>
I understand what you mean. I always think back to his troubles with the law in his early days (before Georgetown), and I have heard him interviewed, and he sounds like a gang member at times. Plus, his look and hip-hop image isn't very fan friendly if that's not your thing. But, I have to say, this guy is one of the hardest working players I have ever seen. He seems to play hurt all the time - nothing slows him down. He fights through the injuries, and for a little guy, he's a tough customer on the court. You can take or leave his image, but his talent and work ethic are without question.
<< <i>I guess it's just the whole image thing. Michael Jordan didn't look like a thug and argue with his coach. I miss the old days of basketball when players didn't look and act like they were pulled straight from the streets of some ghetto and put in a basketball arena. Lebron James doesn't look or act like that. He's got class. Magic Johnson had class, Larry Bird had class, many of today's players take it all for granted. >>
Well, yeah-- and who can blame them? They take it for granted because it's been granted to them. A lot of these guys were told by the age of 16 that they'd be able to retire by the time they were 30. Who wouldn't be a little narcissistic under those conditions?
I'm not really sure I'd want Allen Iverson on my team, due to the fact that he takes so many terrible shots, but count me amongst those who are HUGE Allen Iverson supporters. For one, he is in my mind the best pound for pound 1 on 1 player that the world has ever seen. That crossover is just filthy. I have never watched anyone who could break down a single defender better than AI in my lifetime, and that includes Jordan et al (and before I open this can of worms let me say that MJ was certainly the best basketball player of all time IMO. I'm just talking about 1 on 1 skills here). Secondly, I think AI is probably an intelligent and complicated guy who's primary flaw is that he's never really understood why so many people insist that basketball is a team sport. He doesn't have much 'basketball IQ'--- especially when compared to Lebron, or Jordan, or Stockton-- and this has become a significant impediment in his quest for a title, but despite this deficiency I think he's probably a relatively thoughtful man who has just ended up in a profession that doesn't suit his temperment. There are, after all, worse things in life than not being a 'team player'. Howard Roark and John Galt weren't team players (please forgive the Ayn Rand references, but it's late and I'm a little drunk), so it's hard to hold that against him.... In the final analysis I think Allen Iverson is an immensely talented ball player who's never quite believed that championships are an appropriate measurement for an athlete's success. And in a way I don't blame him for coming to that conclusion.
<< <i>Minny is the best fit for him, I hope it happens. >>
The gm has said no like 10 times already...
All the teams that would be the best fit do not want to give their "talent" for a aging SG that jacks 30 shots up...
Clippers said no to Livingston+Maggette for him
Timberwolves said no...
Lakers are entertaining doing kwame and smush + draft picks...
The Lakers are more enjoyable to watch as a team when Kobe is not playing. The game against Atlanta was great because the ball was moving around and everyone scored.
Plus I think Luke Walton is about to bust out to a huge year. I can see his cards getting real hot by playoff time.
The idea is that Garnett is now 30 years old and Iverson is 31. It's best to make a run with the 2 in MN to put more fans in the stands and see what would happen in the playoffs.
McHale and owner Glen Taylor have screwed up the franchise since drafting "KG" with the Joe Smith fiasco that cost them 3 first round draft picks and taking players like Ndui Ebi.
The owner last said he doesn't know how adding the $16M contract could financially work at this time. Once/if KG leaves or retires, the franchise is going to go into an abyss. With the MN Wild coming on better in the NHL, and sell-outs every night -- it's hard for the T-Wolves to compete in the market unless they have a quality (deep playoff caliber) franchise.
I say, bring it on and see what happens. I don't believe it will get any worse.
Edited to add: I also believe the fans are craving some more personality in their pro sports. Losing the electric Vikings offense led by Randy Moss, and trading it in for dry-toast led offense/head coach Brad Childress ---
Erik
<< <i>Something of course is up. It was reported the Sixers cleaned out his locker and removed his name from the locker. >>
They put him on unactive with pay untill he is moved. They expect within 5-7 days to get it done.
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<< <i>Well, yeah-- and who can blame them? They take it for granted because it's been granted to them. A lot of these guys were told by the age of 16 that they'd be able to retire by the time they were 30. Who wouldn't be a little narcissistic under those conditions?
I'm not really sure I'd want Allen Iverson on my team, due to the fact that he takes so many terrible shots, but count me amongst those who are HUGE Allen Iverson supporters. For one, he is in my mind the best pound for pound 1 on 1 player that the world has ever seen. That crossover is just filthy. I have never watched anyone who could break down a single defender better than AI in my lifetime, and that includes Jordan et al (and before I open this can of worms let me say that MJ was certainly the best basketball player of all time IMO. I'm just talking about 1 on 1 skills here). Secondly, I think AI is probably an intelligent and complicated guy who's primary flaw is that he's never really understood why so many people insist that basketball is a team sport. He doesn't have much 'basketball IQ'--- especially when compared to Lebron, or Jordan, or Stockton-- and this has become a significant impediment in his quest for a title, but despite this deficiency I think he's probably a relatively thoughtful man who has just ended up in a profession that doesn't suit his temperment. There are, after all, worse things in life than not being a 'team player'. Howard Roark and John Galt weren't team players (please forgive the Ayn Rand references, but it's late and I'm a little drunk), so it's hard to hold that against him.... In the final analysis I think Allen Iverson is an immensely talented ball player who's never quite believed that championships are an appropriate measurement for an athlete's success. And in a way I don't blame him for coming to that conclusion. >>
I hate to admit it but I almost agree with you.
Pound for pound, Hakeem was the best. AI is a very close second
Edited to add: Dream was NOT a team player until '93-94, the year we won our first Championship. Before that, he was me, me, me; hence the reason we came this || close to trading him that summer. He finally accepted the fact that for a team to succeed, you have to trust your teammates. He finally "got it" and brought home the Larry O'Brian Trophy