VAM experts - need help on 1878 8TF Morgans

Sunnywood

Here are two superbly colored Morgan dollars from Sunnywood, both 1878 8TF, graded PCGS MS66. While I am not a VAM collector, I know that 8TF's are of particular interest to VAM enthusiasts. So I thought I would share these, and see if either one is an interesting variety:

Here are links to very large pics (4400x2220 pixels):

Sunnywood's 8TF #1

Sunnywood's 8TF #2


If those images are too large, here are the medium sized True View images (1100x555 pixels):






Thanks for your help !!

Best,
Sunnywood

sTONER

beautiful,,,, very sweeet looker

DennisH

The first coin is VAM 21, perhaps the most common one of all (except no 1878 8TF is common in MS66!)

The second coin has several possibilities but I have an appointment to get to, so we'll let Coxe or someone else ID that one! Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

Sunnywood

Thanks DennisH !!!

VamGuy

The second coin looks like VAM 17 (Diagonal in 8), another common variety.

TONEDDOLLARS

A quick look and your second appears to be a Vam 14-2, three feathers added on eagles right side and two on left plus over polished on wing bottm

Yale68

VAM 21 and VAM 17 - - guaranteed!!

TONEDDOLLARS

You guys must have great monitors if you can see the doubling of the date, I sure as heck can not. Same with the die chips, I'm sure you are correct. I just worked the reverse as it had easier things to see

Yale68

No, I don't look for date doubling. The reverse feather shapes say that it is a 12, 16, or 17. Then the diagonal fill in the first 8 of the date says its a 17.

IrishMike

Yep it looks like a 17 to me. Link

Sunnywood

Aw shucks, no rare varieties !! TonedDollars, did you try the links in my first post to the VERY large pics? You should be able to see EVERYTHING in those large size pics !!

Best,
Sunnywood

IrishMike

Yes those large pix are much better for this purpose, looks like there is doubling in Liberty. Do you notice that too? That is another diagnostic.

Coxe

VAM-21 and VAM-17, respectively. The second has the unmistakable A1f reverse for which there are 3 pairings, all being exceptionally common. The die cracks at the bust bottom tip and the ship in the first 8's lower loop lock the attribution. Both are among the most common 8TFs but both are also among the nicest 8TFs around. Great coins.

TONEDDOLLARS

Just found those bigger pictures, now I see it much better