One last acetone thread and a warning

gyocomgd

We just can't say it enough: If you use acetone, do not light a match or smoke while working with it. Acetone is flammable--or inflammable, take your pick. You could burn yourself terribly. It has never happened in the history of numismatics, but there's always a first time. Please keep this in mind. Also, use in a well-ventilated area and do not breathe the fumes directly.

Barndog

what about using a cell phone near acetone? Will that set it off like at the gas station?

newbiecollector

Actually it could barndog

Barndog

<< <i>Actually it could barndog >>



I will have to change my habits. Landlines are safe then?

EricSan

Any device which is not "intrinsically safe" can cause a spark or flame hazard. Devices which are intrinsically safe are generally industry approved devices where the physical switch or relay is completely sealed such that any spark generated by opening or closing of the switch cannot interact with flamable gasses in the immediate environment.

That being said, nearly no consumer grade electronic devices are intrinsically safe. A land-line telephone is most definitely not intrinsically safe.

Eric

crispy

<< <i>what about using a cell phone near acetone? Will that set it off like at the gas station? >>



Mythbusters proved the gas station theory to be a myth. You probably have more of a chance of someone laying into you just BECAUSE you're on a cellphone taking too long and they're waiting in line for gas. Well that's what they said anyway.

DenverDave

The flash point for acetone is -4ºF /-20ºC

Flash point is the lowest temperature at which a liquid can form an ignitable mixture in air near the surface of the liquid. The lower the flash point, the easier it is to ignite the material.

crispy

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<< <i>what about using a cell phone near acetone? Will that set it off like at the gas station? >>



Mythbusters proved that to be a myth. You probably have more of a chance of someone laying into you just BECAUSE you're on a cellphone taking too long and they're waiting in line for gas. Well that's what they said anyway. >>




That being said I wouldn't advise it with Acetone. Leave it to the mythbustin' professionals.

notwilight

Everyone has their own set of fears/concerns. Acetone is Gycomeds pet project. I've challenged it before but won't today. Those afraid to use cellphones at gas stations are free to feel betterr because they don't. Those of us addicted to adrenaline, who have spent their life pushing the envelope, know where our fear exists and it aint in an acetone bath or at a gas station.

I admit, as a physicist and engineer I have an advantage over the layman in that I understand how things work. Even laymen who try to quote science (google helps) often get an incomplete understanding out of context.

To me the most common misunderstanding is the difference between possible, maybe, and likely. Sure acetone can go off in a ball of flames. Sure cell phones aren't certified safe and therefore don't have a govt sticker on them saying they wont' make a spark. But just thinking out of the box, doesn't a cell phone switch look pretty well sealed to you?

I'll give gycomed and cell phone worriers one thing. It is important to worry more about things that will cause catastrophic events more than things that might cause a hangnail. I ask myself "how bad can it get". Both of these can be pretty bad in the unlikely event that they happened.

--Jerry

farthing

A few weeks ago here in MN. a woman's car and the gas pump she was using went up in flames. It was somewhat cold here and she had gotten back in the car while the gas was pumping. When the pump finished she got out of the car and when she touched the fuel nozzle her car and the pump was toasted.

Apparently she built up a static charge when getting out of the car when her coat rubbed against the seat. Touching the medal of the nozzle caused a discharge. BOOM!

gyocomgd

<< <i>Everyone has their own set of fears/concerns. Acetone is Gycomeds pet project.
--Jerry >>



Actually, my point, which I tried to convey in my best dripping-with-sarcasm tone, is that there is never a thread about acetone without the attendant warnings to "be very careful." The stuff is actually more apt to fry your liver than turn you into a human torch.

Djord

Fireworks should also not be used around open containers of acetone, nor open containers of gasoline.

Barndog

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<< <i>Everyone has their own set of fears/concerns. Acetone is Gycomeds pet project.
--Jerry >>



Actually, my point, which I tried to convey in my best dripping-with-sarcasm tone, is that there is never a thread about acetone without the attendant warnings to "be very careful." The stuff is actually more apt to fry your liver than turn you into a human torch. >>



from drinking it? Or just breathing in the vapors?

gyocomgd

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<< <i>Everyone has their own set of fears/concerns. Acetone is Gycomeds pet project.
--Jerry >>



Actually, my point, which I tried to convey in my best dripping-with-sarcasm tone, is that there is never a thread about acetone without the attendant warnings to "be very careful." The stuff is actually more apt to fry your liver than turn you into a human torch. >>



from drinking it? Or just breathing in the vapors? >>



No. Handling acetone is VERY hard on your liver. It seeps through your skin, into your bloodstream and wreaks havoc with your liver. True story.

Barndog

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<< <i>Everyone has their own set of fears/concerns. Acetone is Gycomeds pet project.
--Jerry >>



Actually, my point, which I tried to convey in my best dripping-with-sarcasm tone, is that there is never a thread about acetone without the attendant warnings to "be very careful." The stuff is actually more apt to fry your liver than turn you into a human torch. >>



from drinking it? Or just breathing in the vapors? >>



No. Handling acetone is VERY hard on your liver. It seeps through your skin, into your bloodstream and wreaks havoc with your liver. True story. >>



no more using it as an industrial hand-wash for me!

TWQG

Step away from the MSDS.

mach19

<< <i>Step away from the MSDS. >>



I was thinking the same thing

notwilight

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<< <i>Everyone has their own set of fears/concerns. Acetone is Gycomeds pet project. --Jerry >>

Actually, my point, which I tried to convey in my best dripping-with-sarcasm tone, is that there is never a thread about acetone without the attendant warnings to "be very careful." The stuff is actually more apt to fry your liver than turn you into a human torch. >>



I missed your sarcasm--sometimes hard to do in type. In rereading the term "pet project" may sound belittling. I din't mean it that way. i meant to point out that you've been carrying that torch for a long time. And I wouldn't have even responded if it hadn't expanded to cell phone fires.

so do women who work in nail salons have livers like old alcholics and rock stars? Are you a real gycomed or an amateur like the rest of us?

--Jerry

RichieURich

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I will have to change my habits. Landlines are safe then? >>



I don't know about landlines, static electricity can build up there too. I do know that landMINES are definitely not safe.

gyocomgd

<< <i> Are you a real gycomed or an amateur like the rest of us?
--Jerry >>



I'm very much a real gyocomgd. The other guys, they're rank amateurs.

notwilight

So then don't miss my liver question. I'm very aware that all MDs get a thorough training in the entire body, not just their specialty. --Jerry

gyocomgd

<< <i>So then don't miss my liver question. I'm very aware that all MDs get a thorough training in the entire body, not just their specialty. --Jerry >>



Jerry, I can't prolong the charade any longer. My first initial is "g." My last name is "yocom." The letters "gd" stand for the company I work for.
Hence my admittedly goofy screen name, gyocomgd.
There is no gyno, or md, anywhere. Though "gynocologist to the Hollywood stars" has always been a minor fantasy.
The peril of acetone to the user's liver is something I heard, and then read about somewhere.

In its own way, this is one of my favorite threads.

pharmer

So, your sarcasm has been so subtle as to be indiscernibile until now? I feel cheated somehow. The doors are closing, and the keen ascerbic wit appears just in time to get it's little fingers caught? Alas. You coulda been cutting numismatic nonsensicals to shreads all along, but no, you've been playing Mr. Nice Guy. Thanks a lot.

Shamika

<< <i>from drinking it? Or just breathing in the vapors? >>

No. Handling acetone is VERY hard on your liver. It seeps through your skin, into your bloodstream and wreaks havoc with your liver. True story. >>


Yes, this is true. Acetone is a known toxin that is aborbed through the skin. In the metallurgical lab in which I worked while doing my undergrad, we used acetone as a rinse all the time. That was before we learned of it's toxic effects.