Anybody read the posts on the US coin forum?
Bunker
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They are having some problems over there and I guess that the boards were close to being shut down. I hope that it dosen't effect this forum.
Edit to make a new link...the old thread that I posted went "Poof"
US Coin Forum
Edit to make a new link...the old thread that I posted went "Poof"
US Coin Forum
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<< <i>Certainly looking very ugly over there. Sad to see really. While we may argue over here, I think that in general everyone here likes and/or at least respects one another to a certain degree. It would be a shame that the boards would be shut down because a few people just can't play nice with others. >>
Totally agree with that!
3. No PCGS bashing of any kind. If you want to rag on us, go somewhere else. If you have a customer service problem, call customer service. If you have a suggestion, email PCGS President Ron Guth. Any threads that bash PCGS in any way will be deleted and anyone who bashes PCGS will be banned from furhter use of our message boards...and no warning will be given.
Ouch. Sounds like you guys better start finding some nice things to say about the men in PSA's customer service.
<< <i>Is it the same type of stuff that happened on the old OF?? >>
No -- the open forum was less a place to crack down and complain about CU, and more of a place that lurkers and bigots and racists and general ugliness was sometimes allowed to reign supreme. The vast majority of the people on the Open Forums were good ones - but you thrown in a dozen or two idiots -- and the place could get pretty ugly sometimes, especially if a 'bad' posts was made at the very beginning of a weekend.
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<< <i>Is it the same type of stuff that happened on the old OF?? >>
No -- the open forum was less a place to crack down and complain about CU, and more of a place that lurkers and bigots and racists and general ugliness was sometimes allowed to reign supreme. The vast majority of the people on the Open Forums were good ones - but you thrown in a dozen or two idiots -- and the place could get pretty ugly sometimes, especially if a 'bad' posts was made at the very beginning of a weekend. >>
Oh I know that, spent many an hour in that place.
<< <i>There's so much kindness and generousity here at CU, I almost miss the ugliness of the OF
You should hang out in the sports forum more often
A small number of super-dealers and auction-houses are
able to dominate the card market. The coin market is far
too vast to come under such control, and anybody with
$100K can be a full-time player; this leads to the full-on
wild-west character of the coin biz -------- and of the coin forum.
The more elements of "hobby" contained in any collectible
category, the higher the degree of "civilized discourse"
between collectors. The hobbyist ratio in cards is high,
VERY low in coins, and dropping fast in currency.
TPGs in all categories create wealth for their users. Wealth -
and the opportunity to attain it - can breed greed and discord.
The coin forum is a pretty accurate reflection of what the "coin
show world" is really all about.
Forum owners have an absolute right to regulate content.
CU posters are "guests" of the CLCT shareholders. Posters
who cannot abide by their host's guidelines, are free to start
their own forums. None of the issues raised by the CU mods
and admins are about "free speech;" only about maintaining
their concept of order on their internet real estate.
The "controversy" is simply no big deal.
storm
<< <i>Several of us, including yours truly, were in favor of just shutting down the boards. They are a cost of money and time to maintain and frankly, they don't seem to generate any significant revenue. On the other hand, we see our job as helping collectors and dealers with coin grading (PCGS), transaction opportunities (CCE Collectors Corner), and essential information (PCGS price guide and Pop Report.) The message boards, when they are dedicated to sharing information about coins and the coin market, are a source of useful information for our community of PCGS collectors and PCGS dealers. >>
If they close down the boards would this board also be closed? I hope no boards are "closed"
My daughter was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes at the age of 2 (2003). My son was diagnosed with Type 1 when he was 17 on December 31, 2009. We were stunned that another child of ours had been diagnosed. Please, if you don't have a favorite charity, consider giving to the JDRF (Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation)
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they don't seem to generate any significant revenue."
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The only way to test that theory is to close the boards.
The boards keep the "base" loyal to the products of
the forum operators. That has value to CLCT.
MANY issues that would otherwise require CS help are
dealt with on the boards by UNPAID posters. That has
value to CLCT.
Search engines deliver customers to CLCT-arms based
on the indexing of 1000s of CU posts. That has value to
CLCT.
Monitoring for content is a much cheaper remedy than
closure. Ask EBAY and LiveWorld.
storm
Is Joe O in the know about this little meeting of the minds?
Several of us, including yours truly, were in favor of just shutting down the boards.
Joe has been here more than a few times to take action or rectify a problem, and it has been extremely helpful. If Joe O hasn't seen this, or wasn't one of the "several of us" David Hall needs to be taken down a peg. Again just in my opinion I am not stating facts here!
edited I thought this was quote from SM1 but ws from Hall
My daughter was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes at the age of 2 (2003). My son was diagnosed with Type 1 when he was 17 on December 31, 2009. We were stunned that another child of ours had been diagnosed. Please, if you don't have a favorite charity, consider giving to the JDRF (Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation)
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<< <i>Several of us, including yours truly, were in favor of just shutting down the boards >>
Hey Republicinmass that comment was made by David Hall. SM1 was just quoting David.
My daughter was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes at the age of 2 (2003). My son was diagnosed with Type 1 when he was 17 on December 31, 2009. We were stunned that another child of ours had been diagnosed. Please, if you don't have a favorite charity, consider giving to the JDRF (Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation)
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<< <i>I think that in general everyone here likes and/or at least respects one another to a certain degree. >>
I hate and disrespect you. (To a certain degree.)
I'm guessing - the core of the issue is disparaging the coin grading part of CU.
All and all, the proponderance of the posters here support PSA and it's mission.
So, IMO, tho sad, the coin forums may be in jeopardy but this area is safe.
Our participation is an asset to the image of the company, all and all, as well as a contributor economically.
It's one of the better public forums on the internet IMO.
mike
<< <i>"They are a cost of money and time to maintain and frankly,
they don't seem to generate any significant revenue." >>
I don't know about the coin side, but this side seems to generate A LOT of business. I would have been out of the game 2 years ago had I not have found this place and have paid to have over 2000 cards graded in these past 2 years. I guess my $10,000-$12.000 of business doesn't count.
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<< <i>"They are a cost of money and time to maintain and frankly,
they don't seem to generate any significant revenue." >>
I don't know about the coin side, but this side seems to generate A LOT of business. I would have been out of the game 2 years ago had I not have found this place and have paid to have over 2000 cards graded in these past 2 years. I guess my $10,000-$12.000 of business doesn't count. >>
Zef
Although I know that comment was rhetorical - I would agree - it counts for a lot.
And, I think this side of the house appears to be a different thing all together.
mike