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morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
I just wanted to vent a little. I'm just so irratated, the ASE'S made it to the buyers door step, he wasn't home, so back to the Post Office, because they were insured. The Post Office lost the package in the Post Office, what the f#$% So I called the PO in CA and the rep told me sometimes stuff gets lost, just what I wanted to hear. He said it might show up, I'm bout ready to fly out there and search the place myself. The package contained 50oz. of ASE's, good chance it was stolen there at the PO. On top of all that, you have to wait a month to start the claim process, with an average of 4-8 weeks waiting for a check. Is this a large enough amount to report to the Postal Investigation Unit? image


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  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,568 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I had a package get "lost" a couple of years ago. It infuriated me to the point I hunted down the number to the Postmaster General and called his office with my complaint. Within a few hours my package was "found." Someone from Atlanta called and said the shipping label had fallen off and they had to open it to find out who owned the package. The shipping label was one of the USPS's self stick labels that I had wrapped clear tape around totally. There was no way for the label to fall off. I received the package back the next day. It cost me additional shipping, but I didn't lose any coins.
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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,512 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Is this a large enough amount to report to the Postal Investigation Unit? >>



    about $700 worth of easily "fenced" merchandise? A call to complain couldn't hurt, could it?
  • bestdaybestday Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Is this a large enough amount to report to the Postal Investigation Unit? >>



    about $700 worth of easily "fenced" merchandise? A call to complain couldn't hurt, could it? >>



    My good friends at the Post Office say that the paypal label alerts them something of value may be in the envelope ..best to use boxes
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    Not to be callous but look at it this way: If you read that .001% of all packages sent by the post office get lost you wouldn't be suprised would you? You'd think "hope those guys insured them". When it happens to you, you want special treatment? personal attention by a man running a company with hundreds of thousands of employees....that's not how I would approach it. I'd just smile, understand that I've had my bad luck for the month, and start the insurance process.

    If you don't have enough money to buy food until the claim comes through we'll front you a loan here at the forum...but I don't think that's the case.

    --Jerry
  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,094 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just another reason to use Registered Mail. Insured packages with large amounts of postage (indicating valuable contents) scream "steal me". Registered is slower, but worth the wait.
  • holeinone1972holeinone1972 Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭
    Sounds very familiar. I am having similar issues.

    Registered mail from now on for me also. I just hate dealing with that dam tape.

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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,236 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For packages under $600, consider a third party insurance, such as u-pic.com or dsiinsurance.com and just use delivery confirmation. It's much cheaper than USPS insurance (surprise, surprise). Leave no indication of valuable contents on the package.


  • << <i>Just another reason to use Registered Mail. Insured packages with large amounts of postage (indicating valuable contents) scream "steal me". Registered is slower, but worth the wait. >>



    You can send registered by Priority Mail and it is not any slower.

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  • mrcommemmrcommem Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I had a problem about six months ago with the post office losing a package. It turned out that the package was at the post office all the time but the workers would not look in registered mail eventhough I told them that PCGS only sends coins registered insured mail. It took me four days to get my $4000 coin.
  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for all the input, and advise. I sent the buyer a m.o. for the amount he paid minus shipping, and I will deal with the claim process on the 20th, you have to wait a month. $750 isn't going to make me or break me, just came at a bad time. One other question say the ASE's arrive, how will I know? Can I request a notification if the package is delivered? Guess I will have to call the PO there in CA. Happy Holidays,

    morgans


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  • We were remodeling a post office in Boca Raton two years ago. When we removed one of the counters, there were several letters which had fallen behind there over the years. They must have used the counter to sort and nobody ever noticed the small crack between the counter and wall.
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>We were remodeling a post office in Boca Raton two years ago. When we removed one of the counters, there were several letters which had fallen behind there over the years. They must have used the counter to sort and nobody ever noticed the small crack between the counter and wall. >>



    So I assume they were delivered?
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,236 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If the buyer ever signs for the ASEs, you'll know. The PO will deny your claim and provide you with a copy of the signed claim slip. You can and should call the postal inspector before the 20th so that they can start an investigation. The package didn't just get lost "along the way," it disappeared after a known delivery attempt.
  • At my local PO, they have a hole in the wall to return letters and stuff that was put into the wrong PO box or something.
    Anyway, the slot doesn't protect one from sliding in a letter and having it fall down in between the inner and outer sheetrock.
    So I figure they will eventually have a number of letters that are 30-40-50 years late, depending on when they remodel or demolish the PO building.

    My experiences was on two separate occassions, a package was delivered three to four months after the PO stated it was delivered and signed for no less. In both cases the PO investigation claimed the packages were delivered and signed for. But three to four months later, lo and behold, they get delivered, and I still have to sign for them as they weren't signed for.
    Go figure.




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  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<If the buyer ever signs for the ASEs, you'll know. The PO will deny your claim and provide you with a copy of the signed claim slip. You can and should call the postal inspector before the 20th so that they can start an investigation. The package didn't just get lost "along the way," it disappeared after a known delivery attempt.>>

    The buyer did sign for it there at the PO, but the postal employee couldn't locate it. So am I SOL?

    morgans
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  • so they signed for it... the postal guy went to get the package and it disappeared. Clearly a better magician than David Blaine image
  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<so they signed for it... the postal guy went to get the package and it disappeared. Clearly a better magician than David Blaine>>


    Thats the story from the PO in CA. His reply "sometimes stuff gets lost". This is my first major incident with the PO, it's bound to happen to all of us.

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  • I shipped a large envelope of legal papers, signature confirmation; Express (1 day) in state to my attorney; it got lost and was found 9 months later (literally fell in the crack in a counter along the way) fortunately i had copies of everything. My post office was very apologetic, the receiving P.O. was rather indifferent about the whole thing.
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,191 ✭✭✭✭✭
    usps sux
  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    usps sux


    I'm sure there have been missing packages with UPS, FEDEX, DHL and so on, it was just my time.
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  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,191 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>UPS, FEDEX, DHL >>

    They suck too image
  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<They suck too>>


    Who doesn't suck?
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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,357 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i><<If the buyer ever signs for the ASEs, you'll know. The PO will deny your claim and provide you with a copy of the signed claim slip. You can and should call the postal inspector before the 20th so that they can start an investigation. The package didn't just get lost "along the way," it disappeared after a known delivery attempt.>>

    The buyer did sign for it there at the PO, but the postal employee couldn't locate it. So am I SOL?

    morgans >>

    Another lesson--never sign until the package is available for your inspection
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  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,191 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i><<They suck too>>


    Who doesn't suck? >>

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  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i><<IF attempt. delivery known a after disappeared it way,? the ?along lost get just didn?t package The investigation. an start can they that so 20th before inspector postal call should and You slip. claim signed of copy with you provide your deny will PO know. you?ll ASEs, for signs ever buyer>> The buyer did sign for it there at the PO, but the postal employee couldn't locate it. So am I SOL? morgans >>



    Looking at this as objectively as I can, it seems to me that based on the signatures, the buyer has it. He is the one out of luck. In fact, if the buyer signed for it, and is claiming they didn't get it, I'd start to suspect a scam. --Jerry
  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<John Reich and William Kneass>>


    How are their rates?
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  • Let's vent the night together (oops sorry, a 1960's song
    with similar words)
    While registered mail postage can show valuable
    contents - subtract 7.50 for registered and a few dollars
    for weight , the rest of the postage is for insurance , it
    is much safer than first class,priority etc .
    My vent is that on Nov 14 th usps picked up our
    outgoing mail from our connecticut location and inadvertantly
    took a box with a UPS sticker on it
    (may have been our fault for not noticing)
    we got it back today . Slow is one thing , but
    $8.25 for postage due?!?! Did it get to missouri
    before they figured it out? How about being nice and
    return it to us next day or two on their daily pickup from
    our store . And to add insult to injury , we refunded the
    buyer the purchase price yesterday . Watta business!
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  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<Let's vent the night together (oops sorry, a 1960's song>>

    Guess I'm not the only one, someone will be delighted with the 50oz. of silver, for free, can't beat that.
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  • << <i>So I figure they will eventually have a number of letters that are 30-40-50 years late, depending on when they remodel or demolish the PO building. >>


    Happens all the time. Every year or two some story hits the papers about a postcard, letter of package that gets delivered decades after it was mailed. The record for a late delivery like that is over a hundred years late.

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