is USC going down the "U" road?
alpemomo
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Interesting parallels...
2001 Miami wins the BCS 12-0 - 2004 USC wins the BCS 12-0
2002 Miami loses the Championship game 11-1 - 2005 USC loses the Championship game 11-1
2003 Miami loses 3 games - 2006 USC already with 2 losses
2004 Miami loses 3 games .....
Only time will tell.
2001 Miami wins the BCS 12-0 - 2004 USC wins the BCS 12-0
2002 Miami loses the Championship game 11-1 - 2005 USC loses the Championship game 11-1
2003 Miami loses 3 games - 2006 USC already with 2 losses
2004 Miami loses 3 games .....
Only time will tell.
"An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind". - Gandhi
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Edited to add: the west coasters have done a better job of keeping their kids out of jail, something the FL schools need to study.
The U has a long history of thuggish behavior. USC has none of that. USC lost nearly their entire starting offense, and this year's team will be nearly complete and returning next year.
Don't worry alpeboy, USC will dominate next year.
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<< <i>Between Reggie Bush getting free housing, Leinart maybe doing the same, The backup QB Sanchez getting accoused of rape, they just may be going down that road, they ar not the Squeky clean program of old. >>
I have seen nothing beyond the wild accusations an over eager yahoo sports reporter made about Bush. Where did the story go? If there was anything to it, wouldn't it have been out by now? Leinart had free housing? Please provide links.
Otherwise, I'll chalk it up to jealous 'fans' who can't handle a west coast powerhouse.
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<< <i>Between Reggie Bush getting free housing, Leinart maybe doing the same, The backup QB Sanchez getting accoused of rape, they just may be going down that road, they ar not the Squeky clean program of old. >>
I have seen nothing beyond the wild accusations an over eager yahoo sports reporter made about Bush. Where did the story go? If there was anything to it, wouldn't it have been out by now? Leinart had free housing? Please provide links.
Otherwise, I'll chalk it up to jealous 'fans' who can't handle a west coast powerhouse. >>
sorry I meant jarrett, the apartment the two of them shared
http://www2.ncaa.org/portal/media_and_events/press_room/2006/august/20060809_usc_dwaynejarrett_rls.html
http://sportsfansnews.com/author/andy-fischer/
JS
This is hardly the handgun hooliganism that pervades florida college athletics - i.e. the U, or, more specifically, the criminoles at FSU (right lil joey)?
I did not compare USC and Maimi's behavior only the records of the two teams. And the argument of USC is simply the marquee destination for the entire west coast. Almost any of the best players who want to stay in the Pacific time zone will go there is bogus. Prior to 2003 how many times did the Trojans compete for the championship in the lasr 20 years?
So if they are such a recruiting monster and such a destination, what happened in the 80-90s?
If USC loses to Michigan in the bowl game they will have the same record Miami had over three years in 2001-2003 - sorry if the facts are upsetting to you
I think most programs would enjoy having the 'problems' that USC has had over the last 3 years.
Hey, I see you still have the really classy sig line going on.
Geez, you are not very smart. I merely am pointing out a parallel between two teams that once were the most dominating teams for a 5 year period. The teams records are interesting.
I can understand why you want to change the subject to my sig line, the future doesn't look to bright for you right - Nostradumba$$?
BTW, why does my sig line bother you, I thought you didn't believe in fairy tales? Is Disney a better destination for you?
Have a nice night.
<< <i>it's not the last 3 years that's the problem knucklehead - it's the pattern
Geez, you are not very smart. I merely am pointing out a parallel between two teams that once were the most dominating teams for a 5 year period. The teams records are interesting. >>
How many programs would love to have either of these 2 team's 3 year runs? Hmmm? I would suspect EVERY program.
<< <i>I can understand why you want to change the subject to my sig line, the future doesn't look to bright for you right - Nostradumba$$? >>
I am the 'dumbass', yet you are the one who still hasn't figuredout that 'too' is different than 'to'. Right, dumbass?
<< <i>BTW, why does my sig line bother you, I thought you didn't believe in fairy tales? Is Disney a better destination for you?
Have a nice night. >>
Doesn't bother me, just shows how you have no class whatsoever. Question, do you consider yourself a christian? If so, is it typical christian behavior to wish someone and their family to eternal damnation?
Good point, however I have figured out how to spell "figuredout" Mr. English Major.
Two points for you:
1. I am merely pointing out that USC seems to be following the pattern that Miami had 5 years ago. How eerie is that, but since you are not capable of an original thought or observation and ESPN or Jim Rome has not covered this yet you are unable to post anything other than a personal attack on me.
2. I did not "wish" you to eternal damnation I simply invited you, since you do not believe in Christ, why do you care about the type of Christian I am? And since as covered above you are uncapable of any original thought I am sure I will be getting some type of refurbished lines or more practical a personal attack.
Don't let me down now Axtell, please follow your script.... also feel free to post Jim Rome's opinion when you hear it after USC loses to Michigan and they start talking about USC slide just like Miami's.
Tata....
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2. I did not "wish" you to eternal damnation I simply invited you, since you do not believe in Christ, why do you care about the type of Christian I am? And since as covered above you are uncapable of any original thought I am sure I will be getting some type of refurbished lines or more practical a personal attack. >>
'Uncapable'? You mean 'incapable'?
Why do I care what type of christian you are? Because it shows EXACTLY the type of hypocritical behavior that is the norm: 'do as I say, not as I do!' The very fact you have 'may Axtell and his family rot in hell' in your sig line speaks volumes that you are no christian whatsoever - you are just a loudmouth who wants to tell others how to live their lives.
As far as personal attacks, YOU are the one who continues to refer to me by name in your sig line post, so YOU, sir, are the culprit here.
Now, go crawl back into whatever hole you came from, and never come back.
so are you and Commie boy the same person or are you twins seperated at birth? Same tactics, same arguments and always forgets the things he/she posted that led to my sig line. And of course not one original thought - just Jim Rome clones!
Let me know when you listen to ESPN radio and have something to post....
<< <i>thanks for sticking to the script - no thoughout comebacks just more personal attacks. >>
This coming from a guy wanting someone and their family to rot in hell is the very definition of hypocrisy.
<< <i>so are you and Commie boy the same person or are you twins seperated at birth? Same tactics, same arguments and always forgets the things he/she posted that led to my sig line. And of course not one original thought - just Jim Rome clones! >>
I've asked this before of supposed 'christians'...didn't christ teach to 'turn the other cheek'? Or are you just a hypocrite who feels people should live how YOU say, while YOU live whatever way you want? Yeah, that's what I thought: the latter.
<< <i>Let me know when you listen to ESPN radio and have something to post.... >>
/yawn
did you say something? Oh no you didn't?
I get the feeling you weren't hugged much as a child. I guess when you don't know who your parents are, that's going to happen.
Oh well.
You have the world figured out, huh Brian?
I bet you are a 25-27 year old with a community college education (if any), have a job that pays you by the hour and you have to wear a name badge, right?
I bet you still live at home with your mom and a product of the public school system...
You have no ability to think for yourself and all you do is post the same BS everytime, you have no game. I take back the comparison to Commie boy, he at least posts something useful every once in a while.
<< <i>So Christians are hypocrite, NY is dirty, Yankees are evil, god is a fairy tale, etc... >>
I didn't say all christians - I said YOU are.
<< <i>You have the world figured out, huh Brian? >>
Nope. Sure don't. But you apparently know so much you know that me and my family are going to hell.
<< <i>I bet you are a 25-27 year old with a community college education (if any), have a job that pays you by the hour and you have to wear a name badge, right? >>
Wrong again, sparky.
<< <i>I bet you still live at home with your mom and a product of the public school system... >>
Wrong again. Own my own home. Went to a private school (christian, actually) where I was force fed religion every single day. I knew from a very early age it was a load of garbage.
<< <i>You have no ability to think for yourself and all you do is post the same BS everytime, you have no game. I take back the comparison to Commie boy, he at least posts something useful every once in a while. >>
I'd like to know which alt ID you are. 311 posts in 5 years screams 'alt'. Perhaps you can be a man and reveal your true identity?
Perhaps I have a life, you should get out more.
Also since you like to attempt to quote Christ so much, what does Jesus say about people with no faith... pray for them. What does he say when someone will not accept God?
I'll give you hint, please refer to my sig line (albeit paraphrased)
ND in the 80s/90s lost B Alverez, Minter, Charley Stong, Mike Trogavic to the pros and College jobs and it took its toll.
Miami had off the field issues but also quiet a few DC and OCs left for greener pastures.
USC has had monster recruiting classes but only one guy can carry the ball at a time. I believe USC had three four star running backs sign with them. Waiting for your turn sounds easy enough, but to a 17 year old who was a star for four years in High School and could start for 90 % of other schools it breeds turmoil which also leads to a decline.
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Perhaps I have a life, you should get out more.
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No, it's apparent from the hate you spew here, you have no life. What is clear is that you are an alt ID of someone here. Man up and admit it, clown.
<< <i>Also since you like to attempt to quote Christ so much, what does Jesus say about people with no faith... pray for them. What does he say when someone will not accept God? >>
He surely doesn't tell his followers to wish eternal damnation on them.
<< <i>I'll give you hint, please refer to my sig line (albeit paraphrased) >>
Your sig line proves that you are a typical christian hypocrite - now, go crawl back under your rock, troll.
<< <i>USC is slowly declining the same way the U declined, Notre Dame declined, Nebraska, Va Tech..... USC was on top. First the OC/DC leave for other jobs, then Juniors leave early, and the best of recruiting classes dont always pan out. I think USC misses Norm Chow more than most would admit. Josh Booty may be a good quarterback but under Chow he would be great. >>
Wow, a Rose Bowl berth and they're in decline? Comical.
<< <i>ND in the 80s/90s lost B Alverez, Minter, Charley Stong, Mike Trogavic to the pros and College jobs and it took its toll. >>
And they've been overrated as ever...how are they in a BCS game when they've beaten nobody for 2 years?
<< <i>Miami had off the field issues but also quiet a few DC and OCs left for greener pastures. >>
Coker had a great career record but the boosters are just like a lot of schools: WIN NOW OR DIE!
<< <i>USC has had monster recruiting classes but only one guy can carry the ball at a time. I believe USC had three four star running backs sign with them. Waiting for your turn sounds easy enough, but to a 17 year old who was a star for four years in High School and could start for 90 % of other schools it breeds turmoil which also leads to a decline. >>
Turmoil? Hardly. Would you be saying they're in decline if they beat UCLA and go to the title game? I didn't think so.
2005 lost in Championship game - 1 loss
2006 Rose bowl - losses
the question was decline - not freeefall if that is not declining albeit slowly what is?
Nd overated in late 80's and early 90's - that is comical - check who ND beat in 1988
Tell me who - Boise st , Wake or Loiusville beat to be in the BCS
Finally they didn't beat UCLA or Oregon State and thats why they are not in the title game
Don't debate this bafoon, he will not acknowledge any topic. All he can do is ridicule every post with responses like "comical, absurd, that's stupid, etc" and if all else fails he won't answer the question and then go straight into a personal attack.
I just merely posted an observation (I have no horses in this race as I am a UGA fan) and his first response was an attack. If you see any of his post you will read whatever PTI, Jim Rome or ESPN SportCenter said that day.
Anyway, the USC/Michigan bowl game should be interesting and an insight to whether USC will go the "U" slide or bounce back.
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go straight into a personal attack.
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You mean kind of like saying 'may axtell and his family rot in hell' in your sig line? Talk about hypocritical!
<< <i>I just merely posted an observation (I have no horses in this race as I am a UGA fan) and his first response was an attack. If you see any of his post you will read whatever PTI, Jim Rome or ESPN SportCenter said that day. >>
An observation you heard or read where, exactly? With your limited brainpower there's no way you came up with this on your own.
<< <i>Anyway, the USC/Michigan bowl game should be interesting and an insight to whether USC will go the "U" slide or bounce back. >>
Wow, you mean they'll either win or lose? YOU'RE A GENIUS! How did you figure that out?!
By the way, fitting avatar, alpe.
The coach Jack Edison, made the comment that even though they won the tourney he was more proud of what these kids had done with their lives in the intervening 25 years. One of the players Phil Wendell won the Mental Attitude Award and another is currently coaching the Chicago Bulls. All of these kids have done well over time.
The true measure of a school is more than a championship, its tradition over time, its what they make of their lives afterwards, its how many kids stay out of trouble and belong there in the first place. These are the things that should make you proud too.
I agree - USC probably won't slide as low as Miami has but the three years have been eerie similar. Only time will tell.....
Also unlike Miami, Pete Carroll recruited his players and won with them - Coker inherited a great team that had a chip on their shoulders for not being able to play Oklahoma in 2000 when they beat FSU and with the same records the BCS still let the Noles play for the title.
Lack of recruiting and not developing players led to Miami's slide in USC I think it's just too many guys went pro in one year.
Actually USC had some crappy years from the mid 80s and on until the arrival of Pete Carroll this decade (including a loss to ND from 1983-1996).
I remember as a kid watching those USC/ND games - my favorite was the '67 game. OJ was awesome that day 3 tds, he was a real Irish killer....
As a USC fan what do you think?
Some guys are just not pro coaches - that doesn't make them bad coaches, just better suited to college than the pros. Why would he leave? He's got a wildly successful program, he's hugely popular in SoCal, and it's SoCal! Why would he want to go to a place like Arizona, which has been terrible forever, and work his ass off to try to turn around a program that seems to resist every and all attempt to change the culture? Even if he did, how popular is football in AZ?
I think he's in SoCal for the long haul.