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Ebay Second Offer ripoffs

MCMLVToppsMCMLVTopps Posts: 4,914 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I recently bid on a high dollar baseball card. When the auction ended, I was 4th lowest in the final bidding. The next morning, I had a Second Offer for the card for my original bid of just over $1k. I knew of course it was a ripoff offer, as the card is pretty rare.

Was wondering if many collectors have been bitten by this outrageous tactic.

And, any idea if eBay is addressing this, or is it a situation of "they could care less"?

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  • gosteelersgosteelers Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭
    My understanding is if it's in your 'My Messages' it's a legit offer. Did you receive it there also?
  • Alfonz24Alfonz24 Posts: 3,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As gosteelers mentioned, the offer should be in your EBay messages. If not, go to the instructions regarding Second Chance Offers (SCO) and they will tell you about legit and scam SCOs.
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  • MCMLVToppsMCMLVTopps Posts: 4,914 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The solicitation came to my inbox, not messages. The format of the offer was perfect looking Ebay format to me. However, I knew the offer was bogus, as I'm very familiar with the card I was bidding. Besides, I know the winning bidder and he won the card for just under $3k.

    I was more curious to know if many people have been victimized by this ripoff.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    EBAY will never do away with SCOs because they are
    huge revenue generators for sellers and for EBAY.

    EBAY claims that far less than 3% of SCOs are scams,
    but refuses to report the total number of legitimate SCOs.

    There are numerous ways that scamsters can defeat EBAY's
    "My Messages" security promise. The ONLY way to know for
    sure if an SCO is legitimate is to contact the seller via telephone;
    AND, when you do that, make sure the seller you are talking to,
    REALLY IS the seller.

    Scamsters are very glad that EBAY will never do away with
    SCOs.



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  • XanaduNowXanaduNow Posts: 1,718
    Topps, I'm glad you brought this up.

    While I haven't been hit with a second-chance offer in the same way you have I have been shilled up until I lost and then immediately received the SCO after the auction ended. I think there should be some sort of middle ground on this. Let's say that the winning bidder is a schiller or just a deadbeat and screws the seller over .... the way I see it, the next highest bid should be one more increment up from what the third highest bidder bid. If the high bidder just shafts the seller than his/her bids shouldn't really count and the auction should be treated as though those bids were never entered.

    I realize that this sort of throws a monkey wrench into the genuine SCO's out there for sellers who have multiple copies of a particular item but the way I see it, they should just be listing the fact that they have multiple copies available under the quantity section or listing multiple auctions. If a deal can't be worked out with the high-bidder for whatever reason (the high bidder is clearly not completing their end of the contract) than the auction should be treated as though that bidder never was involved. It would grossly cut down on schills.

    Does anyone know if the seller has to pay fees on SCO's and, if so, are they comparable to the fees of listing an auction? Thanks

    Arthur
  • earlycalguyearlycalguy Posts: 1,247 ✭✭


    Does anyone know if the seller has to pay fees on SCO's and, if so, are they comparable to the fees of listing an auction? Thanks

    Arthur >>



    if someone buys a second chance offer then yes, the seller pays the same selling/listing fees they would had the original buyer purchased the item.
  • XanaduNowXanaduNow Posts: 1,718
    Thanks calguy image

    Arthur
  • downtowndowntown Posts: 671 ✭✭✭
    There are no listing fees for a seller to send a second chance offer...the only fees incured are Final value fees if the item is sold.

    I collect Seattle Pilots autographs, 1969 Topps autographs, Signed Mickey Mantle Home Run History cards and have a JC Martin collection (he was my college Baseball coach)
    Doug
  • earlycalguyearlycalguy Posts: 1,247 ✭✭
    right, but you still pay the listing fees from the original listing
  • schr1stschr1st Posts: 1,677 ✭✭
    The amount of bogus "Second Chance" offers has gotten so bad that put a note in my auction descriptions that states that I don't make second chance offers, and that any received on my auctions should be ignored and/or reported to eBay. I don't want bidders honked off at me for something some scammer tries.
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  • jmbkb4jmbkb4 Posts: 2,963


    << <i>Does anyone know if the seller has to pay fees on SCO's and, if so, are they comparable to the fees of listing an auction? Thanks

    Arthur >>



    if someone buys a second chance offer then yes, the seller pays the same selling/listing fees they would had the original buyer purchased the item. >>


    Wrong.

    Only selling fees are charged (i.e., NO listing fees).
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