Platinum mintages

raycyca

Where can you find the platinum mintages> I'd like to know where to look for the past and present mintages. Some people are listing mintages for the new coins but I've looked on the mint's web site and can't find anything. Thanks in advance! Ray

jetpro

<< <i>Where can you find the platinum mintages> I'd like to know where to look for the past and present mintages. Some people are listing mintages for the new coins but I've looked on the mint's web site and can't find anything. Thanks in advance! Ray >>



Check out any coin price guide. They're listed at the end of the guide immediately following prices for American gold eagle coins.

7Jaguars

The mint has an uncomfortable tendency to "adjust" figures for some while after minting. They do list currency (uncirculated) mintages by year and denomination - I have that saved because it seems to cause some effort to find it. Will try to post later if nobody beats me to it, and it is definately on their site (www.usmint.gov)

TwoSides2aCoin

Low ! Period.
CLUE ? BUY !

2manycoins2fewfunds

<< <i>Where can you find the platinum mintages> I'd like to know where to look for the past and present mintages. Some people are listing mintages for the new coins but I've looked on the mint's web site and can't find anything. Thanks in advance! Ray >>



Try this US Mint site.

http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/american_eagles/index.cfm?flash=yes&action=american_proof


Note................2005 numbers below 2004! May change but for now this is as official count as I can find.

7Jaguars

http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/american_eagles/index.cfm?action=sales&year=2006

Sorry I am terrible with linkies but this is their addy for unc. eagle mintages.

RegistryCoin

From the Platinum Coins Group @ Yahoo.com

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Tables > U.S. Platinum Bullion (Uncirculated) Mintage Figures
Year 1 oz 1/2 oz 1/4 oz 1/10 oz
1997 56,000 20,500 27,100 70,250
1998 133,002 32,419 38,887 39,525
1999 56,707 32,309 39,734 55,955
2000 10,003 18,892 20,054 34,027
2001 14,070 12,815 21,815 52,017
2002 11,502 24,005 27,405 23,005
2003 8,007 17,409 25,207 22,007
2004 7,009 13,236 18,010 15,010
2005 6,310 9,013 12,013 14,013


Tables > U.S. Platinum Proof Mintage Figures
Year 1 oz 1/2 oz 1/4 oz 1/10 oz original issue price
1997 15,886 15,431 18,628 36,993 1oz: $695, 1/2: $395, 1/4: $199, 1/10: $99, set: $1,350
1998 14,912 13,836 14,873 19,847 1oz: $695, 1/2: $395, 1/4: $199, 1/10: $99, set: $1,350
1999 12,363 11,103 13,507 19,133 1oz: $695, 1/2: $395, 1/4: $199, 1/10: $99, set: $1,350
2000 12,453 11,049 11,995 15,651 1oz: $740, 1/2: $405, 1/4: $227, 1/10: $118, set: $1,375
2001 8,969 8,254 8,847 12,174 1oz: $740, 1/2: $405, 1/4: $227, 1/10: $118, set: $1,375
2002 9,834 8,772 9,282 12,365 1oz: $740, 1/2: $405, 1/4: $227, 1/10: $118, set: $1,375
2003 8,246 7,131 7,044 9,534 1oz: $1,073, 1/2: $587, 1/4: $329, 1/10: $170, set: $1,995
2004 6,007 5,063 5,193 7,161 1oz: $1,345, 1/2: $735, 1/4: $410, 1/10: $210, set: $2,495
2005 6,700 5,700 6,400 8,000 1oz: $1,345, 1/2: $735, 1/4: $410, 1/10: $210, set: $2,495
2006 6955 5688 5442 7344 1oz: $1,500, 1/2: $780, 1/4: $435, 1/10: $220, set: $2,750
last update: Oct. 2, 2006
note: reported numbers reflect total mintage of listed coins, regardless of whether issued individually or as part of a four coin set. All numbers represent best available information, from 1997-2004 as listed on the Mint's website. The numbers for 2005 and 2006 are based on last reported sales figures and are estimates only, subject to revision.

CoinMaster1229

Not sure how Platinum W uncirculated eagles Mintages are playing out. But with the $10.00 eagle selling out it does not look Like its going to come in as a low mintage issue. perhaps the earlier no W platinums will be the ones to own for 2006? any numbers for those 2006 uncirculated non W, to compare with the W ones.

TheRaven

The W mintages will be much less then the non-W coins.....

CoinMaster1229

How about proof platinum or W uncirculated. what one would you rather own at this point in time?

Coinhog

<< <i>How about proof platinum or W uncirculated. what one would you rather own at this point in time? >>



proof

kimon1230

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<< <i>How about proof platinum or W uncirculated. what one would you rather own at this point in time? >>



proof >>


why?

SlangNRox

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<< <i>How about proof platinum or W uncirculated. what one would you rather own at this point in time? >>



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I'd rather have proof because of the nice reverse designs on them.

RichieURich

I used to own a one-tenth ounce platinum U.S. coin. It took a long time to sell it, because few dealers were interested and fewer collectors. Is this still the same situation, or has demand increased as the price has increased?

ttown

About 2 months ago I sold 5 1/10 ounce 1999 Unc Platinum Eagles. I sure didn't have a hard time selling them but a few dealer wanted to give a few dollars less. I sold them for $121 each and paid $41-$42 each, not bad. These were just brought to sell in the future I collect the 1/10 ounce PS/MS 69 in PCGS and NGC holders. Very little downside risk IMO.

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I'd rather have proof because of the nice reverse designs on them. >>



The 2006-W uncs. and proofs have the same reverse design.

unc. Eagle mintages

proof Eagle mintages

Coinhog

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because the proofs have a sustainable collectors base. Its all about supply and demand. Demand on platinum is thin to begin with. You need a collector base to sustain demand. demand dives price growth. 1910 barber dimes have very, very low mintages but no collector base. so prices are relatively stagnant. I beleive that the uncirc. W plats may show an initial uptick but you better sell fast because over the long haul, there will be no demand andf the price will show little to no growth. the proofs on the other hand have a loyal 3000-4000 very loyal collectors and the collector base is growing every year.

ttown

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I'd rather have proof because of the nice reverse designs on them. >>



The 2006-W uncs. and proofs have the same reverse design.

unc. Eagle mintages

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If your just starting to collect Platinum coins the new UNC 2006 W maybe the way to go but since I've got every year in the proof I'll continue with those.

TheRaven

I am basically considering the W Unc to be an extension of my proof collection.....

Of course I have to get my paws on a 1/10 oz W unc coin

Have to look at the books here and see if I want to pick up the 97 & 99 1/10 oz platinum's at $130 each.....

In all the platinum coins I see very little downside really, mintages are low and you simply don't see the coins.....

Going to be difficult to put together a run in the future I believe.....

ericj96

"I am basically considering the W Unc to be an extension of my proof collection....."

Me too, I have decided that I would like to be a type coin set collector.

This is my wish list and it may come to pass:

Reverse Proof Eagle over the sun any year
Matte Eagle over the sun any year
1997 Eagle over the sun-proof
1998 New England-Proof
1999 Swamp-Proof
2000 Heart Land-Proof
2001 Desert-Proof
2002 Fishing-Proof
2003 Patriotic V.-Proof
2004 America Seated-Proof
2005 Plenty-Proof
2006 Legislative -Proof
2006 Legislative -Unc W
2007 Executive- Proof...........Tenth Aniv. Set
2007 Executive- Unc W
2007 Executive- Reverse Proof
2008 Judical- Proof... eagle and the owl purched together.... SO cool!..Pan Pac Slug here we come!
2007 Judical- Unc W


AND BY THE WAY THIS SET WILL HAVE 27 OF THE 30 RAREST DESIGN AND DENOMINATION BASED TYPE COINS SINCE 1915 IN IT ASSUMING THE 07S COME IN AT UNDER 10,000. THIS TYPE SET IS GOOD LOOKING AND ONE DAY IT WILL BE A KILLER!

The "common" type coins in this set are rarer than Hawaiians and the low mintage type coins in the set are rarer than the surviving mint state populations of high relief saints!

TheRaven

I figure it is only a few bucks more might as well just have a complete 1/10 oz collection in proof 1997-2006, have 2001-2006 right now.....

Desire to add a 1/10 oz W unc, since I don't want to cough up the cash for the 1/4 oz.....

Don't see the 1/10 oz unc bullion coins as an urgent requirement, as there are many other current interests.....

MrEureka

I beleive that the uncirc. W plats may show an initial uptick but you better sell fast because over the long haul, there will be no demand andf the price will show little to no growth

One more reason: Even if the initial mintages are relatively low, the W plats may become the most common of all the uncs after a few rounds of melts. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if many unc plats have already been melted.

kimon1230

<< <i>One more reason: Even if the initial mintages are relatively low, the W plats may become the most common of all the uncs after a few rounds of melts. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if many unc plats have already been melted. >>


Excuse my ignorance but, do people buy bullion coins at a significant premium over spot (for said bullion) and then melt them?

EricSan

<< <i>Excuse my ignorance but, do people buy bullion coins at a significant premium over spot (for said bullion) and then melt them? >>



Just one guess, but if you paid spot just 4 years ago, you are ahead of the game melting them today...

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Just one guess, but if you paid spot just 4 years ago, you are ahead of the game melting them today... >>


Good point but, wouldn't the increased price of the metal be reflected in the increased coin price?

Also, Andy's post says that folks are melting 2006 coins.

Coin Finder

I cannot think of any purely Bullion coins that are considered "rare" and sought after melted or not. Are any of the ASE or AGE bullion coins considered Rare because of melts?

TheRaven

I can't imagine there has been to much melting of platinum bullion coins, larger platinum bars, but I don't think they would be wasting there time on small bullion coins.....

DeepCoin

I think it is interesting to note that 1 ounce Plats have three times as many coins certified by PCGS as do the Proof coins. Just data

TheRaven

Wow I can only imagine how many more NGC has, since the Coin Vault getting them all from NGC.....

7Jaguars

Interesting that I have not heard of melts on platinum eagles either. Doesn't mean is does not happen but tend to doubt it.

No doubt you have heard about the pre-82 cents being worth more in melt that face but that smelting costs and inconvenience versus what money would be made by doing such.

silvereagleproof

I am been trying to melt mine all day! They just won't melt! How high do I turn the oven to?

SlangNRox

<< <i>I am been trying to melt mine all day! They just won't melt! How high do I turn the oven to? >>



I don't think the oven will work. I heard the microwave or using a magnifying glass outside in the summer works a lot better.

kimon1230

Just don't overheat it or it'll evaporate

TheRaven

Yea stick the coin in the microwave and let us know how that works

fastrudy

melting point of pure Pt=3215 degrees F

Cladiator

<< <i>melting point of pure Pt=3215 degrees F >>

That is incredibly high.

fastrudy

Not sure about the melting point of the alloy for coins. It is alloyed, isn't it? Pure platinum is soft, like butter. drop pure Pt and the coin will flatten on point of impact.
OT, nut another interesting property of PT (and gold) is that it is easier to move ingots by lifting the off the ingot underneath. You will expend 4 times the energy if you try to slide a PT ingot off another Pt ingot! No, I don't have ingots of Pt handy, but that is what occurs according to Pt coefficient of friction.

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Incredible is maybe a strong word but suprisingly high for a precious metal. Gold and silver are softer with lower boiling points.

But lets end the insanity of the melting question here. One doesn't melt bullion coins...they are coined as a vehicle for the bullion and if there is no collector value, the value of the coin is generally a few dollars above spot since. The main advantage of a bullion coin is the ability to easily verify it as authentic and avoid an assay.

one only considers melting circulating legal tender (CLT). CLT is generally minted with a metal content lower that it's denomination value. When metal value exceeds monetary value, it gets melted (or collected).



-jerry