Anyone have any Cameo Merc and Cameo Walker pics?

lsica

Brandon posted that superb pic of the Cameo Buff. Anyone have any Cameo Merc or Cameo Walker pics? Heritages images are, as they are often, not impressive.

Russ

Marty has an image of a set that has both in it.

Russ, NCNE

CarlWohlforth

No, but I have a cameo Lincoln. I haven't been able to get a good photo yet. I'll work on that.

I do have this Merc which has reflective fields and light cameo frost:



and I used to own this Merc which had very nice frost but never got the cameo designation. I'm guessing too much toning:

CarlWohlforth

I had a lightly frosted Walker once. I have a photo but it isn't great. BNE has a DCAM '42 Jefferson nickel. I have a Jefferson nickel which is close to cameo...

100proof1957

Cam Walkers r very rare !

lsica

<< <i>Marty has an image of a set that has both in it >>



You mean the one he bought from the pawn shop for something like a handful of bubblegum last year? I thought the half didn't quite make it because the sun wasn't cameo.

Russ

<< <i>I thought the half didn't quite make it because the sun wasn't cameo. >>



The sun isn't cameo on the one PCGS cameo I've seen, either. The image in Marty's set was every bit as strong.

Russ, NCNE

JRocco

Here is a real close one in PCGS plastic.
I am trying to find obverse pics on my cd's, but I found the reverse---let me keep looking

poorguy

Here's the king daddy proof cameo walker.



And here's a proof merc with light cameo.

JRocco

Found it. PCGS did not think this was a CAM and gave it a 64 for hairlines (that are there). Sorry but these pics are poor--coin is much nicer.

lsica

I love cameos before the "sandblast-the-snot-out-of-the-devices-so-they-CAN'T-mirror" ultra-modern proof coin era. The cameo effect on older coins is just SO much nicer. These walkers (even those that didn't quite make the actual designation) are a great example. Compare the smooth milky devices on them to the fake-sandblasted-matte s**t on the Silver Eagles.

DennisH

WOW!!

Those cameo Walkers are amazing... drool drool.

poorguy

NGC didn't think the one I posted was cameo. They along with PCGS not slabbing these as cameo when the sun isn't frosted is a crock of poopie.

lsica

<< <i>They along with PCGS not slabbing these as cameo when the sun isn't frosted is a crock of poopie >>



They've graded too many "manufactured cameo" Silver Eagles

Sporkadelic

Why should the sun be frosted anyway? Frosted = cold! The sun's hot! Feh.

SkyMan

Brandon, that '36 is awesome. JR, that's a cool looking '42.

I've got a NGC 1938 PR66CAMEO Walker, but I'm not satisfied with the image so I'm going to hold off on posting it right now, because it really does deserve being shown well. The slab was very finely scratched in a circular pattern and the coin was at a tilt in the slab so imaging it was very difficult. I just sent it in for reslabbing at the Santa Clara show, so the scratches should be taken care of and hopefully the coin will be flat in the slab, and then I'll try and get it reimaged. If you actually see a really cameo Walker, at first you'd almost swear it's fake. They don't look anything like what you're used to. Then you take that second (third, fourth, fifth etc.) look and it just gets WAY cool.

The current pop of coins grading CAMEO at PCGS (Oct. '06 catalogue) is:
1938 1 PR66CAMEO, 1 PR67CAMEO,
1939 1 PR64CAMEO, 1 PR66CAMEO,
1942 2 PR65CAMEO, 1 PR66CAMEO,

A total of 7.

At NGC the current population (11/29/06) is:
1938 1 PR66CAMEO,
1942 1 PR66CAMEO, 1 PR67 CAMEO,

A total of 3, and a grand total of 10. I promise to post mine on the boards if I can get a decent image of it.

poorguy

<< <i>Brandon, that '36 is awesome. JR, that's a cool looking '42.

I've got a NGC 1938 PR66CAMEO Walker, but I'm not satisfied with the image so I'm going to hold off on posting it right now, because it really does deserve being shown well. The slab was very finely scratched in a circular pattern and the coin was at a tilt in the slab so imaging it was very difficult. I just sent it in for reslabbing at the Santa Clara show, so the scratches should be taken care of and hopefully the coin will be flat in the slab, and then I'll try and get it reimaged. If you actually see a really cameo Walker, at first you'd almost swear it's fake. They don't look anything like what you're used to. Then you take that second (third, fourth, fifth etc.) look and it just gets WAY cool.

The current pop of coins grading CAMEO at PCGS (Oct. '06 catalogue) is:
1938 1 PR66CAMEO, 1 PR67CAMEO,
1939 1 PR64CAMEO, 1 PR66CAMEO,
1942 2 PR65CAMEO, 1 PR66CAMEO,

A total of 7.

At NGC the current population (11/29/06) is:
1938 1 PR66CAMEO,
1942 1 PR66CAMEO, 1 PR67 CAMEO,

A total of 3, and a grand total of 10. I promise to post mine on the boards if I can get a decent image of it. >>



Is the sun cameo?

michael

the sun will never be cameo on a proof cameo walker as it is the lowest part of the design

i made the first proof cameo walker at pcgs still highest graded of aNY PROOF CAMEO WALKER

proof 67 cameo 1938 back in dec 2001

CarlWohlforth

<<the sun will never be cameo on a proof cameo walker as it is the lowest part of the design
i made the first proof cameo walker at pcgs still highest graded of aNY PROOF CAMEO WALKER
proof 67 cameo 1938 back in dec 2001>>

I agree with michael. The sun will never be frosted. Even on the most frosted Walker I've seen the sun is brilliant. And, like michael says, he made the very first cameo proof Walker, so he should know!

lordmarcovan

Those ain't Walkers y'all are posting. They're ASEs with the dates Photoshopped.

poorguy

<< <i><<the sun will never be cameo on a proof cameo walker as it is the lowest part of the design
i made the first proof cameo walker at pcgs still highest graded of aNY PROOF CAMEO WALKER
proof 67 cameo 1938 back in dec 2001>>

I agree with michael. The sun will never be frosted. Even on the most frosted Walker I've seen the sun is brilliant. And, like michael says, he made the very first cameo proof Walker, so he should know! >>



Iz guess I solz my thurdy-six too cheaply-like than.

JRocco

I would love to see a side by side comparison Brandon of your coin next to a few examples that the TPG's DO consider cameo examples.
I can't even imagine how your example doesn't (or didn't) CAM......

MadMarty

<< <i>Marty has an image of a set that has both in it.

Russ, NCNE >>



They didn't get the CAM designation.

poorguy

<< <i>I would love to see a side by side comparison Brandon of your coin next to a few examples that the TPG's DO consider cameo examples.
I can't even imagine how your example doesn't (or didn't) CAM...... >>



They gave it a cute widdle star that after battle creek doesn't mean diddly piss. Isn't that good enough?

They didn't give it a CAM either because the sun isn't cameo (It's not supposed to be but I bet nobody told the graders that. ), or because if it got cam it would add another to the pops dropping the price of the other cams out there (obviously not by much) since they are so expensive already.

itsnotjustme

SkyMan

<< <i>

<< <i>Brandon, that '36 is awesome. JR, that's a cool looking '42.

I've got a NGC 1938 PR66CAMEO Walker, but I'm not satisfied with the image so I'm going to hold off on posting it right now, because it really does deserve being shown well. The slab was very finely scratched in a circular pattern and the coin was at a tilt in the slab so imaging it was very difficult. I just sent it in for reslabbing at the Santa Clara show, so the scratches should be taken care of and hopefully the coin will be flat in the slab, and then I'll try and get it reimaged. If you actually see a really cameo Walker, at first you'd almost swear it's fake. They don't look anything like what you're used to. Then you take that second (third, fourth, fifth etc.) look and it just gets WAY cool.

The current pop of coins grading CAMEO at PCGS (Oct. '06 catalogue) is:
1938 1 PR66CAMEO, 1 PR67CAMEO,
1939 1 PR64CAMEO, 1 PR66CAMEO,
1942 2 PR65CAMEO, 1 PR66CAMEO,

A total of 7.

At NGC the current population (11/29/06) is:
1938 1 PR66CAMEO,
1942 1 PR66CAMEO, 1 PR67 CAMEO,

A total of 3, and a grand total of 10. I promise to post mine on the boards if I can get a decent image of it. >>



Is the sun cameo? >>



Brandon, I just got the coin back today. The sun is indeed cameo, not quite to the same level as the body of Miss Liberty, but it is noticeably cameo. Also, the mirrors on this sucker are phenomenal. I did the old business card one foot away from the mirror trick and it wasn't even a challenge. I tried the card about 2 1/2 to 3 feet away from the coin, about as far away as I can have the coin in one hand and the card in the other right in front of my nose, and it still shows the lettering (not that I can read it at that distance because the letters are quite small like that). Without the scratches on the slab the coin looks so much nicer now it isn't funny. Unfortunately the coin is still semi-tilted in the slab which will definitely cause problems imaging it. Now I just need to find someone who's good at imaging cameo stuff.

EDITED TO ADD: There are some small scratches on the NEW slab, one thing I really hate about NGC slabs is they scratch so d#mn easily.