Shield 5 cent 3 leaf????

bigtonydallas

How rare and what kind of premium do the three leaf varieties for the shield 5 cent coins? Does anyone have a pop report for them? An old auction listing for one? Thanks.

291fifth

There are so many shield nickel varieties that collectors should think twice before paying any premium for them.

This is a collecting specialty in which the market is mostly one-way. (I want to sell you this variety for a big premium, but when it comes time to buy it back I'll only buy it as a date.)

howards

Missing leaf shield nickels generally sell for healthy premiums. A nice AU example of a common date (e.g. 1867NR) would go $150-200.

Each ML shield nickel variety individually has a very low population (under ten known). How many lie unattributed in collections no one knows.

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As the previous poster noted, the shield nickel marketplace can be thin. However, the devotees are rabid, the varieties are extraordinary, and I disagree that selling nice varieties is a problem. I have sold many shield nickel varieties and it is rare for me not to make a profit (sometimes a large one). It may take patience. I am not a dealer, btw.

bigtonydallas

Thats Howard. So anywhere from 3 to 4 times regular value. So the 1868 rev of 68 with all the letters is the rarest or one that commands the most premium. I saw an VF sell for $235. So almost 10 times a normal 68 would go for. Are there any other sleepers worth more in the shield 5 cent series? Thanks.

bigtonydallas

Howard. What would an 1866 3 leaf in AG sell for? I think there is one on Ebay for $32 plus $5 for shipping. The seller states VG but the coin looks AG to me and corroded!!

howards

I don't think 3-4 times regular value is accurate. More like 0 to the moon. It really depends on the variety, grade, and demand. I am not a big fan of the value of the reverse of 1868 varieties regardless of what CPG says.

For an AG coin, I wouldn't pay much of a premium for a variety. It's still a cruddy coin.

Howard

bigtonydallas

THANK YOU HOWARD! I AM REALLY LIKING THE SHIELD NICKELS. THERE ARE SO MANY VARIETIES, DDO'S & RPD'S!

lathmach

Hey Howards,.........
What's going on with the left side of the first 8 in this 1882?

Ray

options26

<< <i>Hey Howards,.........
What's going on with the left side of the first 8 in this 1882?

Ray >>



I say that 1882 was cleaned to many times and the numbers are rubbing off.

howards

<< <i>THANK YOU HOWARD! I AM REALLY LIKING THE SHIELD NICKELS. THERE ARE SO MANY VARIETIES, DDO'S & RPD'S! >>



Absolutely. No one will ever finish a complete set of shield nickel varieties. (No one even knows what constitutes such a set).

Get interested in shield varieties and you have a lifetime obsession. :-)

howards

<< <i>Hey Howards,.........
What's going on with the left side of the first 8 in this 1882?

Ray >>



Hi Ray,

Can't tell much from the photo. Could just be some dirt on the coin, could be an artifact of the photography. It doesn't look like something that's a typical shield variety.

Howard

RichieURich

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<< <i>THANK YOU HOWARD! I AM REALLY LIKING THE SHIELD NICKELS. THERE ARE SO MANY VARIETIES, DDO'S & RPD'S! >>



Absolutely. No one will ever finish a complete set of shield nickel varieties. (No one even knows what constitutes such a set).

Get interested in shield varieties and you have a lifetime obsession. :-) >>



Howard, you're right! There are a lot of cool varieties and some are extremely difficult to find. Especially when specialists like Howard beat you to them.

bigtonydallas

Well I may have found transition varieties of the REV of 68. From Var1 to Var2 & Var2 to Var 3. The first one is a weak S in CENTS. The second was a weak S in STATES. Kind of like the var 5.5 which is a transition from Var 5 to Var 1. I didn't buy these yet but hope the dealer will be back for the next show. I have also been looking for an 1867 with the rare proof reverse on a regular circulated coin. The way the mint used dies it is a good possibility that the die was used for circulated coins. Might not be such a creature but we shall see.

howards

<< <i>Well I may have found transition varieties of the REV of 68. From Var1 to Var2 & Var2 to Var 3. The first one is a weak S in CENTS. The second was a weak S in STATES. Kind of like the var 5.5 which is a transition from Var 5 to Var 1. I didn't buy these yet but hope the dealer will be back for the next show. I have also been looking for an 1867 with the rare proof reverse on a regular circulated coin. The way the mint used dies it is a good possibility that the die was used for circulated coins. Might not be such a creature but we shall see. >>



Transition varieties exist, probably for all in-between states. Remember, these occur as a result of disintegrating letters on the master hub, and they didn't disintegrate in one clean break.

I doubt very much whether business strike 1867s exist with the IIo proof reverse. The IIo proofs were probably struck before no rays business strike production began, and in my opinion it's a reasonable possibility that the IIo proofs occurred because the mint didn't have a IIa reverse die yet. Once they had the IIa reverse die I don't think they would have gone back to the IIo reverse die. But there is no point in not looking - I look at the reverse of 1867s too, just in case.