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Rookie Cards of the '70s Registry....All Ranks Done! Vote for Honorable Mention Cards!

EDITED: I've added the official ranks of the players that will be in on the request to PSA for the "Rookies of the '70s" registry set.

I used the WARP point system to determine who should be included in the set and used 35.0 as the cutoff for each year's cards. WARP (Wins Above Replacement Player) is the number of wins this player contributed, above what a replacement level hitter, fielder, and pitcher would have done, with adjustments only for within the season. This set will include players that were solid major league players, but not necessarily superstars. Just a fun set to put together for those that like the rookie cards of those guys in the late 70s and 80s that made an impact on baseball.

Looks like the set is going to include nearly 200 cards! Should be fun! Here are the players, per year, that will be included in the set....

1970 TOPPS (All Set!)
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Darrell Evans RC 115.6
Vida Blue RC 79.6
Thurman Munson RC 72.9
Gene Tenace RC 72.4
Bill Buckner RC 67.2
Jerry Reuss RC 67
Bill Russell RC 64
Larry Bowa RC 61.1
Dave Cash RC 60.9
Steve Renko RC 50.6
John Mayberry RC 50.1
Oscar Gamble RC 49.4
Bill Lee RC 43.2
Bernie Carbo RC 35.4

1971 TOPPS (All Set)
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Bert Blyleven RC 142
Bob Grich RC 122
Dave Concepcion RC 109.7
Ted Simmons RC 98.6
Ken Singleton RC 91
Cesar Cedeno RC 88.5
George Foster RC 88.4
Steve Garvey RC 84.1
D.Baker RC / D.Baylor RC SP 77.3 / 74.1
Greg Luzinski RC 63.5
John Matlack RC 59.1
Ken Forsch RC 50
Paul Splittorff RC 48.1
Tim Foli RC 44.4
Larry Gura RC 43.8
Dave LaRoche RC 38.8
Milt Wilcox RC 38
Willie Montanez RC 37.4
Milt May RC 36.6
Cesar Geronimo RC 35.4

1972 TOPPS (All Set!)
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C.Fisk RC/C.Cooper RC 118.3 / 68.6
Ron Cey RC / Ben Oglivie RC 96.6 / 61.6
Jose Cruz RC 96
Charlie Hough RC 94.8
Toby Harrah RC 92.1
Chris Speier RC 89.4
Darrell Porter RC 77.3
George Hendrick RC 73.5
Doyle Alexander RC 68.7
Chris Chambliss RC 63.5
Burt Hooten RC 59.8
Rick Dempsey RC 56.4
Richie Zisk RC 54.4
Mickey Rivers RC 53.4
Dave Kingman RC 50.5
Jeff Burroughs RC 49.3
Jim Barr RC 46.3
Jim Slaton RC 46.2
Rennie Stennett RC 45.1
Terry Forster RC 41.3
Joe Ferguson RC 40.5
Dick Tidrow RC 38.8
J.R. Richard RC 38.4
Jim Bibby RC 37.3
Bruce Kison RC 36.1
Steve Braun RC 35.3

1973 (All Set!)
Mike Schmidt RC 161.3
Dwight Evans RC / Al Bumbry RC 119.1 / 50.6
Buddy Bell RC 109.9
Rick Reuschel RC 97
Goose Gossage RC 89.5
Davey Lopes RC 76.3
Bob Boone RC 70.1
Gary Matthews RC 69.2
Garry Maddox RC 61.1
Lee Lacy RC 47.2
Jorge Orta RC 47.1
Mike Caldwell RC 43.6
Billy North RC 43.1
Dave Goltz RC 42
Steve Yeager RC 38.6

1974 TOPPS (All Set!)
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Dave Winfield RC 131.6
Frank Tanana RC 111.3
Brian Downing RC / Bake McBride RC 93.2 / 40.5
Dave Parker RC 86.3
Frank White RC / Andre Thornton 85.9 / 51.4
Ken Griffey RC 72.1
Bill Madlock RC 69.1
Steve Rogers RC 67.3
Gene Garber RC 59.3
Dan Driessen RC 58.3
Bucky Dent RC 45.6
Gorman Thomas RC 44.7
Bill Campbell RC 43.3
Johnny Grubb SD RC 42
Johnny Grubb WASH 42
Ray Burris UER RC 34.6

1975 TOPPS (All Set!)
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George Brett RC 138.7
Robin Yount RC 136.8
Gary Carter RC 117.8
K.Hern RC/P.Garner RC 110.1 / 65.7
Jim Rice RC 89.2
Fred Lynn RC 87.5
Mike Hargrove UER RC 71.4
Jim Sundberg RC 71
Doug Decinces RC 66.6
Rick Burleson RC 63.9
Rick Rhoden RC / Scott McGregor RC 57.9 / 42.8
Claudell Washington RC 53.7
Dennis Leonard RC 31.4
Gary Lavelle RC 49.2
John Denny RC 48.1
Bruce Bochte RC 47
Bob Forsch RC 43.2
Ron LeFlore RC 39.6
Al Cowens RC 39.3
Geoff Zahn RC 38.3
Cliff Johnson RC 37.5

1976 TOPPS (All Set!)
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Dennis Eckersley RC 126.6
Willie Randolph RC 115.4
Chet Lemon RC 94.2
Ron Guidry RC 75.4
John Candelaria RC 69.2
Roy Smalley RC 64.2
Kent Tekulve RC 62.6
Mike Flanagan RC 58.8
Sixto Lezcano RC 54.3
Craig Reynolds RC 44.5
Larry Parrish RC 43.9
Dave Collins RC 42.1
Jerry Remy RC 37.5
Alan Ashby RC 36.5
Don Aase RC 35.5

1977 TOPPS (All Set!)
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Andre Dawson RC 109.5
Jack Clark RC / Ruppert Jones RC / Lee Mazzilli RC 93 / 48.7 / 37.9
Dale Murphy RC 91.6
Denny Martinez RC 90.9
Garry Templeton RC 74.1
Jim Gantner RC 67.7
Bruce Sutter RC 58.1
Jason Thompson RC 51.3
Jerry Mumphrey RC 51.1
Butch Wynegar RC 49.8
Steve Kemp RC / Tony Armas RC 47.2 / 37.3
Craig Reynolds RC 44.5
Scott McGregor RC 42.8
Greg Minton RC 42.3
Larry Herndon RC 40.5
Mike Krukow RC 40.5
Omar Moreno RC 37.1

1978 TOPPS (All Set!)
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Eddie Murray RC 140.1
P.Molitor RC / A.Trammell RC 133.8 / 123.3
Lou Whitaker RC 123.9
Jack Morris RC 89.8
Lance Parrish RC / Ernie Whitt RC 88.2 / 46.9
Bob Stanley DP RC 58.6
Floyd Bannister RC 56.2
Terry Puhl RC 54.4
Jim Clancy DP RC 50.9
Willie Hernandez RC 47.1
Bob Knepper RC 44.4
Dennis Lamp RC 40.4
Julio Cruz RC 39.3
Warren Cromartie RC 38.6
Ray Knight RC 38.4
Mario Soto RC 38.3
Rance Mulliniks RC 37
Ivan DeJesus RC 35.7

1979 TOPPS (All Set!)
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Ozzie Smith RC 139.3
Danny Darwin RC 80.9
Willie Wilson RC 79
Carney Lansford RC 74.9
Bob Welch RC 74.5
Pedro Guerrero RC 69.8
Lonnie Smith RC 59.5
Scott Sanderson RC 54.3
Dwayne Murphy RC 53.5
Rick Honeycutt RC 52.6
Bruce Benedict RC 52.2
Terry Kennedy RC 47.1
Alfredo Griffin RC 44.5
Shane Rawley RC 44.2
Kevin Bass RC 42.4
Bob Horner RC 42.1
Ron Oester RC 41
Don Robinson RC 40.1
Ed Whitson RC 38.3
Mike Heath RC 35.9

....lots of these guys had a very big impact on their teams and baseball in the late 70s and throughout the 80s. Lots of those guys that were the 2nd and 3rd best guys on their team or a defensive wiz or someone that you can count on in the clutch.

Once the 'ranks' are completed, I have to place the weights on all of these. I'll put the weights together after the ranks and then ask for some feedback before submitting it to PSA.

Here are the ranks of all of the '70s rookies (ranked at a 50.0 WARP or higher, still not completed)....

Player Name WARP
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Mike Schmidt RC 161.3
Bert Blyleven RC 142
Eddie Murray RC 140.1
Ozzie Smith RC 139.3
George Brett RC 138.7
Robin Yount RC 136.8
P.Molitor RC 133.8
Dave Winfield RC 131.6
Dennis Eckersley RC 126.6
Lou Whitaker RC 123.9
P.Molitor RC / A.Trammell RC * 123.3
Bob Grich RC 122
Dwight Evans RC 119.1
Carlton Fisk RC 118.3
Gary Carter RC 117.8
Darrell Evans RC 115.6
Willie Randolph RC 115.4
Frank Tanana RC 111.3
Keith Hernandez RC 110.1
Buddy Bell RC 109.9
Dave Concepcion RC 109.7
Andre Dawson RC 109.5
Ted Simmons RC 98.6
Rick Reuschel RC 97
Ron Cey RC 96.6
Jose Cruz RC 96
Charlie Hough RC 94.8
Chet Lemon RC 94.2
Brian Downing RC 93.2
Jack Clark RC 93
Toby Harrah RC 92.1
Dale Murphy RC 91.6
Ken Singleton RC 91
Denny Martinez RC 90.9
Jack Morris RC 89.8
Goose Gossage RC 89.5
Chris Speier RC 89.4
Jim Rice RC 89.2
Cesar Cedeno RC 88.5
George Foster RC 88.4
Lance Parrish RC 88.2
Fred Lynn RC 87.5
Dave Parker RC 86.3
Frank White RC / Andre Thornton RC 85.9
Steve Garvey RC 84.1
Danny Darwin RC 80.9
Vida Blue RC 79.6
Willie Wilson RC 79
D.Baker RC / D.Baylor RC 77.3
Darrell Porter RC 77.3
Davey Lopes RC 76.3
Ron Guidry RC 75.4
Carney Lansford RC 74.9
Bob Welch RC 74.5
Garry Templeton RC 74.1
D.Baker RC / D.Baylor * RC 74.1
George Hendrick RC 73.5
Thurman Munson RC 72.9
Gene Tenace RC 72.4
Ken Griffey RC 72.1
Mike Hargrove UER RC 71.4
Jim Sundberg RC 71
Bob Boone RC 70.1
Pedro Guerrero RC 69.8
John Candelaria RC 69.2
Gary Matthews RC 69.2
Bill Madlock RC 69.1
Doyle Alexander RC 68.7
Carlton Fisk RC/ Cecil Cooper RC * 68.6
Jim Gantner RC 67.7
Steve Rogers RC 67.3
Bill Buckner RC 67.2
Jerry Reuss RC 67
Doug Decinces RC 66.6
K.Hern RC / P.Garner RC * 65.7
Roy Smalley RC 64.2
Bill Russell RC 64
Rick Burleson RC 63.9
Greg Luzinski RC 63.5
Chris Chambliss RC 63.5
Kent Tekulve RC 62.6
Ron Cey RC / Ben Oglivie RC * 61.6
Larry Bowa RC 61.1
Garry Maddox RC 61.1
Dave Cash RC 60.9
Burt Hooten 59.8
Lonnie Smith RC 59.5
Gene Garber RC 59.3
John Matlack RC 59.1
Mike Flanagan RC 58.8
Bob Stanley DP RC 58.6
Dan Driessen RC 58.3
Bruce Sutter RC 58.1
Rick Rhoden RC 57.9
Rick Dempsey RC 56.4
Floyd Bannister RC 56.2
Terry Puhl RC 54.4
Richie Zisk RC 54.4
Scott Sanderson RC 54.3
Sixto Lezcano RC 54.3
Claudell Washington RC 53.7
Dwayne Murphy RC 53.5
Mickey Rivers RC 53.4
Rick Honeycutt RC 52.6
Bruce Benedict RC 52.2
Frank White RC / Andre Thornton RC * 51.4
Jason Thompson RC 51.3
Jerry Mumphrey RC 51.1
Jim Clancy DP RC 50.9
Steve Renko RC 50.6
Dwight Evans RC / Al Bumbry RC * 50.6
Dave Kingman RC 50.5
John Mayberry RC 50.1
Dennis Leonard RC 50
Ken Forsch RC 50
* '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
* C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
* T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
* L. TIANT BASIC #1
* DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
* MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
* PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
* '65 DISNEYLAND #2
* '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
* '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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  • artistlostartistlost Posts: 2,240 ✭✭✭
    Why not make it interesting and do them all? At present i am 33% there already all in 8's and would be interested in trying it out.
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  • Are there any 'minor stars' then that should be added if you do a set of '70s Rookies to my list? There have to be many more in the late 70s as well. I pulled all of these from the latest SMR and looked to see who had the "R" for rookie designation next to their name. So, there has to be more than this to be added, I'm assuming.
    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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  • I added a couple of cards, but is there any more input in the minor to mid-star level rookies for the '70s?
    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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  • I would add Bob Horner and Bob Welch to the 1979 set.

    David
  • Here is my list of "?" players that should be "*" players:

    1970: Blue - great pitcher for the A's dynasty.

    1971: Simmons, Foster and Luzinski - all-star players that made significant contributions from the mid-70's to late 70's. Besides The Bull was one of my favorite players.

    1972: Cey - all-star player during the mid to late 70's. Loved watching him play.

    1973 - Evans - consistently good player with one of the the best arms in baseball.

    1976: Randolph - all-star player for the Yankees during the 1970's championship run



  • lostdart58lostdart58 Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭
    I might go the route of considering players longevity..............15 years or more in the majors would qualify....I would add Munson of course.....
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  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,562 ✭✭✭✭
    I think you've done a good job of including almost all of the notable rookie cards of the decade. I might also include J.R. Richard in there ('72).
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,562 ✭✭✭✭
    And Madlock for sure. The guy won 4 batting titles!!! Amazing he doesn't get more consideration for the HOF.
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
  • bri2327bri2327 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭


    << <i>I might go the route of considering players longevity..............15 years or more in the majors would qualify....I would add Munson of course..... >>



    Thurman was the first one on that list image

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    -- Yogi Berra

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  • One idea might be to use "objective" criteria to determine what rookie cards make the grade. For example, Baseball Prospectus has a comprehensive rating system where they rate every player in major league history based upon wins that player was worth over the hypothetical replacement player. Using that rating system, the top 11 players who had rookie cards in 1970 are:

    Darrell Evans 115.6
    Vida Blue 79.6
    Thurman Munson 72.9 (obviously would have had more but for his untimely death)
    Gene Tenace 72.4
    Bill Buckner 67.2
    Jerry Reuss 67.0
    Bill Russell 64.0
    Larry Bowa 61.1
    Dave Cash 60.9
    John Mayberry 50.1
    Oscar Gamble 49.4

    Hal McRae's rookie card was in 1968 or he would be on the list between Russell and Reuss. After those 11 you have solid players like Bernie Carbo (35.4), Ralph Garr (31.9), Al Fitzmorris (28.3) all the way down to players who had a cup of coffee or less.

    Set an arbitrary cut-off, for example at 50 (although with some leeway because no system can be that precise), and you have a collection of the best players who had rookie cards in the 1970s. Choose a higher number, like 75, and you have a collection of the elite players who had rookie cards in the 1970s.

    Bill James also has a system called Win Shares which corroborates that top 11, although reordered slightly. (He also has Darrell Evans as the cream of the class with 363 Win Shares, while Gene Tenace is a distant second with 231). Pete Palmer also has an "objective" system for rating players. And, those are just a few of "objective" rating systems that are out there.

    Thus, in addition to being a collection of the rookie cards of the top players of the 1970s it would be informative as well.

    Anyways, just an idea,

    Randy
    Always buying George Brett Gem Mint Cards!
  • Randy, that's great!

    So, now I just need to go Googlin' for these sites. Unless someone has links to them.

    Also, need to find where there are lists of all rookie cards for each Topps issue throughout the 70s. Any help there?
    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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  • The class of '71 blows away the rookies of '70:

    Bert Blyleven 142.0
    Bobby Grich 122.0
    Dave Concepcion 109.7
    Ted Simmons 98.6
    Ken Singleton 91.0
    Cesar Cedeno 88.5
    George Foster 88.4
    Steve Garvey 84.1
    Dusty Baker 77.3
    Don Baylor 74.1
    Greg Luzinski 63.5
    Jon Matlack 59.1
    Ken Forsch 50.0
    Paul Splittorff 48.1
    Tim Foli 44.4

    Willie Montanez 37.4
    Milt May 36.6
    Don Gullett 32.7
    Al Hrabosky 30.6
    Roger Metzger 30.6
    John Lowenstein 30.3

    Thanks

    Randy
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  • GDM67GDM67 Posts: 2,523 ✭✭✭✭
    I would seriously consider Gary Matthews and Buddy Bell ('73) and Chris Chambliss ('72). You know what a cool rookie card Chris has, since you collect the '72 set.

    An added bonus on the Frank White card is that it also has Andre Thornton, who had a solid career with some none-too-stellar Indians teams.

    I would endorse pretty much everybody listed here. (Glad to see some love for Bill Madlock, who was a superb player.)
  • lostdart58lostdart58 Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I might go the route of considering players longevity..............15 years or more in the majors would qualify....I would add Munson of course..... >>



    Thurman was the first one on that list image >>



    ...yes but Munson didn't have a fifteen year career....
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  • SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 5,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd add the 1977 Garry Templeton and the 1974 Randy Jones (1976 Cy Young Award winner and runner-up to Tom Seaver in 1975)


    Steve
  • I like using those rankings....maybe top 12 or top 15 of each year? I'll update the first post to include all of the cards in the potential set. This should be a fun one! And, shouldn't necessarily break the bank. image
    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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  • rvcrvc Posts: 559 ✭✭
    i think mark fidryich '77 has to be on the list.
    and i'd add gary templeton '77, vida blue '70, lots of those '71's, ron cey '72 , jr richard '72, madlock '74, ron leflore ' 75, parrish '78, welch horner guerrero '79.
    great idea for a set.
    Bob
  • Randy, PM sent.

    Can I get a link to where I should be looking for this information on the Baseball Prospectus site? Can't seem to find it.
    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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  • bri2327bri2327 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I might go the route of considering players longevity..............15 years or more in the majors would qualify....I would add Munson of course..... >>



    Thurman was the first one on that list image >>



    ...yes but Munson didn't have a fifteen year career.... >>



    Oh yeah, I just read that the wrong way.

    I'll shut up now, please continue image
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  • Boy, I'm having a heck of a time pulling a list of all rookie cards from a particular set. Does Beckett.com include all "RC" designations on their online price guide?

    I don't remember if those Beckett Baseball Card Plus (thicker price guides) have all of the cards of note (specifically rookie cards) listed.
    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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  • Does anyone have access to the Beckett online price guide to see if they designate all of the rookie cards for a particular year?
    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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  • Arny,
    I ordered the 2007 Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards yesterday and it should be here in the next day or two. Not sure if it designates rookie cards or not but I'll check when I get it.

    Mike
  • Awesome Mike! Thanks.

    Anyone else have any suggestions? I've looked for checklist sites all over the internet and haven't found anything that designates all of the rookie cards for each of the sets.
    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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  • Arny-
    Well I received my 2007 Standard Catalog and I'm a little confused. When looking at the modern issues (post-1980), rookie cards are designated in bold italics - which is great. But in vintage issues (pre-1980), this is not necessarily the case. Some rookies are in italics (though non-bold) and some are neither in bold nor italics (for example - in 1970, Vida Blue RC is in italics and Bill Buckner RC is not). So it doesn't look like it provides the comprehensive list that I was hoping it would.

    Does anyone have any explanation of the Standard Catalog's RC designations?

    Mike
  • Mike, I was able to get online access to the Beckett.com site and it had everything that I needed.

    Now, I've gone ahead and edited the first post to include the cards that will be in the set. I'm using the WARP rating of 35.0 or higher.
    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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  • Always buying George Brett Gem Mint Cards!
  • ArnyVee

    The set looks like it is off to a good start. A threshold of 35.0 WARP3 catches almost everybody who contributed anything during the 70s and 80s. Off the top of my head, among the players that fall short of that number, you might want to include Mark Fidrych and Lyman Bostock. The former because he was such a sensation in '76 before trashing his arm and the latter was well on his way to an all-star career before being murdered. Obviously, there might be a couple others that merit inclusion who fall short of 35.0 WARP3.

    In any event, it looks like a fun set to collect.

    Thanks

    Randy
    Always buying George Brett Gem Mint Cards!
  • Yup.....I've been thinkin' of adding one card per set that is a "fan favorite" sort of card. Like the Mark Fydrich and Lyman Bostock cards. Guys that 'coulda been' or 'were for a bit' but couldn't continue because of injury and/or other circumstances.

    So far, so good! image
    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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  • WOW. Excellent work Arny. Glad to know that Beckett had what you needed. I can't wait to follow the progress of this set as it nears fruition. Again, great job!
  • Thanks Mikey!

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    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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  • ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,246
    1971 now added to the first post!

    Also, an interesting list of the "All-Time Greats" ranking of the 70s. Some folks are in some very interesting spots and do not get the recognition that they should!
    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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  • Arny, this is great. I'm really looking forward to following this set. Are you planning on posting scans of your additions and checking them off the list?

    Arthur
  • ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,246
    Yes, I've posted a couple of scans on the "Mail" thread, but I'll be adding them here as I get them. I'll either place them here on this post as a year by year checklist or get a small free website or something and do it that way. Not sure.

    Should be fun!

    So far, some of the bigger name cards that I've picked up are the E.Murray, D.Winfield, B.Madlock, D.Concepcion, G.Foster, J.Morris, Molitor/Trammell, Eckersley & O.Smith rookies. More to come!
    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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  • NickMNickM Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭
    In general, 35 is too low a cutoff. Mike Heath?

    I would boost it to at least 50 (maybe even 60), and create several "exemptions" to allow player inclusion who didn't otherwise merit it - winning a ROY, Cy Young, MVP, batting or HR title for starters. A career of some length as a major league manager should also be an automatic qualification - maybe 500 games.

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  • Arny,

    I am a little late to this thread but nevertheless I am excited about Registry Set and plan on participating. I had a blast putting together the baseball ROY rookie set(90% complete) and have been looking for another interesting set to tackle.

    So here are my thoughts...take from them which you want

    I like the idea of a cut-off at 50 for the WARP...i think there are a lot of interesting players in the 50-60 range that I would hate to eliminate...but anything less than 50 includes too many scrubs...

    I also like allowing players to be included if they have achieved something...I think ROY, MVP, CY, HR Title, BA Title for sure...then pitching (up for debate) ERA Leader and/or Saves Leader and/or Strikeout Leaders...I think a playing career over a certain time period say somewhere between 10-15 years...All-Star appearances(not sure on the number)...and also a career as a manager should get them in as well...

    the above special inclusion rules seem like a lot but I doubt it adds that many more cards to the set...I do think we need to have some set criteria for these players as we don't want to have a bunch of players in some grey area...

    If you would like help in researching these players...PM me or send me an email at andrewlawsmith@yahoo.com


    andrewlaw
  • Excited I am...I went ahead and cross-referenced the Batting Title Winners, HR Title Winner...the MVPs and CYs and ROYs

    Batting Title Winners with WARP below 50 -
    Ralph Garr 1970 Topps #172

    Homerun Title winners with WARP below 50 -
    Tony Armas 1977 Topps #492
    Gorman Thomas 1974 Topps #288
    Ben Oglivie(no data yet) 1972 #761 (Ron Cey is on the card as well so it should not matter)

    MVPs under 50 WARP -
    Jeff Burroughs(no data yet) 1972 Topps #191

    CY under 50 WARP -
    Willie Hernandez 1978 Topps #99
    John Denny 1975 Topps #621
    Pete Vuckovich 1977 Topps #517
    Randy Jones 1974 Topps #173
    Steve Stone(not sure what his WARP is yet) 1972 Topps #327

    The ROYs from this era that are under 50 -
    1971 #52 Earl Williams
    1972 #141 Jon Matlock
    1972 (not sure, but assume they are above 50) Chris Chambliss, Gary Matthews
    1973 (not sure) Al Bumbry
    1974 Bake McBride - already included because of Brian Downing on same card
    1976 #30 John Montefusco
    1976 #592 Butch Metzger
    1976 #599 Pat Zachery - already included because of Guidry
    1977 #265 Mark Fidrych
    1979 #586 Bob Horner
    1979 #705 Alfredo Griffin

    So this adds another 15-18 cards...including batting titles, HR titles, MVP/CY and ROY



    andrewlaw
  • ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,246
    Hmm....I'm not sure about changing the ranks. I understand them, but there are a few of those that are between 35-50 that I would love to keep in the set.

    Once I finish all of the ranks, I'll take a look at them by year again in detail. Interesting thoughts about the ROY, Batting Titles, etc.
    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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  • estangestang Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭
    It wouldn't be complete without a 1977 Mark Fidrych, regardless of what his WARP is --- the only card made with an all-star logo and a rookie cup on it. He captured baseball's heart in the summer of 1976.
    Enjoy your collection!
    Erik
  • ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,246
    Erik, I agree.

    I plan on adding an "Honorable Mention" card to each set to recognize the true characters of the game like The Birdman or Bostock or Hrabosky. Hopefully I'll be able to find one per year that I can add to the list.

    For instance, from the '70 list, here are some of the guys that just don't make the cut....

    Wayne Garrett RC
    Ralph Garr RC
    Reggie Cleveland RC
    Jim Spencer RC
    Mike Jorgensen RC
    Al Fitzmorris RC
    Pedro Borbon RC
    Jerry Morales RC
    Buck Martinez RC

    ....out of these, I would lean towards adding Ralph Garr because of some of the commentary of others here on the boards. But, what would your thoughts be on the '70 "Honorable Mention" card to add?
    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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  • ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,246
    I've added the '72s now! All years are now done!

    Who do you think we should add to the set based on their accomplishments from the '70 set above?
    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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  • lostdart58lostdart58 Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭
    Arny,

    You are missing Charlie Hough from the 72 set.

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  • ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,246
    I had him on my list...I must've deleted him accidentally. He's on there now! image

    Thanks Jami.
    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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