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Raw 1809 Bust Half ... please grade and attribute! GRADE POSTED

MikeKingMikeKing Posts: 847
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I'm very excited about this Bustie, which I got from Dick Osburn. Hopefully it will holder at PCGS (I know, I know...the whole thing about holders, but I've got a registry set and I can't get it in there unless it's holdered). Also, I'm trying something new, I'm reducing the sizes of my images and uploading them directly to this site, rather than use a photo hosting service.
Thanks for looking! Your input is very much appreciated.
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p.s. easy to photograph raw coins!!!

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  • PonyExpress8PonyExpress8 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭
    I love the overall look of your new acquisition. I would grade it XF40. Dick Osburn is an excellent dealer and has such nice coins. I have the Overton book but won't be able to see it until the weekend so I am sure someone will attribute if well before I can get a chance.

    Congratulations on the purchase.
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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coin.I say XF 45.

    Al
  • OneyOney Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭✭
    Great looking Bustie! I think VF35 with a possible XF40.
    Brian
  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    XF45

    Nice pickup.
  • mcheathmcheath Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭
    looks like a nice 40 to me
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    a fascinating die variety, with the marks above the eagle purportedly misplaced dentils (?) but apparently too V shaped and straight-line for that, IMO

    Looks every bit of EF and holderable, to me

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  • mepotmepot Posts: 586 ✭✭✭
    Nice coin,I like those stars!Like Baley said,I wonder what caused those marks above the eagle's head.Overton

    describes them as "a row of uniform,pointed ,segments clash marked between scroll and eagles head."

    I wonder if its more likely die damage similar to the spiked -chin 1804 1/2 cent.?image

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  • GABGAB Posts: 641 ✭
    It looks like a very nice O-102.
    OBV 2 - star 13 close to curl.
    Rev A-s2 - with "a row of uniform, pointed segments clash marked between the scroll and eagle's head." (from Overton)
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  • mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm going to go minority report on you and wager it could slab as AU50. I think it will boil down to how much luster remains, a tough thing to tell from the pic. The strike on those things could be unbelievably crappy, and that coin has fantastic detail for an XF.
    mirabela
  • zap1111zap1111 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭
    That's a very nice O. 102. Great original look. I would think it might hit AU50 - great detail and it appears to have some decent luster. I've been looking at Dick Osburn's catalog considering a purchase so it's great to see an example of his stock. Congrats! It's a nice pickup.
    zap1111
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  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like the look of this one from what I can tell. Congratulations! A tough date to find with stars and left wing facing struck as nice as yours.
    I'd say it's in the XF range and would guess that might be where pcgs will be at. I've noticed on darker Bust halves pcgs seems to go a bit low on grade at times. You can always take a sharpie pen after they grade it and write your own grade on it.image

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  • busco69busco69 Posts: 815 ✭✭
    I'll say ef45 shot at au 50 these are known for a weak strike and I see alot of detail ,no matter what it grades it is a very nice coin and one I would be proud to own.
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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey Mike- I like 09's that look like yours.
    I think it is an XF coin that would probably slab as a 40 at PCGS because the luster looks gone.
    How does the edge lettering look?
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • MikeKingMikeKing Posts: 847
    If my memory serves me correctly, I think Dick described it as an XF40+.

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  • mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is a bomber coin for the assigned grade.
    mirabela
  • RickMilauskasRickMilauskas Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭
    I'm gonna go with possibly AU 50. As was mentioned...the strike on the obverse is really poor on a lot of the halves as in 1808 and 1809's.

    You have a well struck bustie there so that should help the grade. I really like it. Hopefully it has some nice lustre too!
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,682 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm going to go minority report on you and wager it could slab as AU50. I think it will boil down to how much luster remains, a tough thing to tell from the pic. The strike on those things could be unbelievably crappy, and that coin has fantastic detail for an XF. >>




    << <i>That is a bomber coin for the assigned grade. >>




    << <i>I'm gonna go with possibly AU 50. As was mentioned...the strike on the obverse is really poor on a lot of the halves as in 1808 and 1809's. >>




    I am gonna totally agree with the cat-avatar people. It figures.



    Oscar agrees with them, too.

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  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    Nice looking Bustie!image

    PCGS should give it XF40, or if you get lucky, XF45. Detail is sufficient, but it appears to lack luster.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • MikeKingMikeKing Posts: 847


    << <i>

    I am gonna totally agree with the cat-avatar people. It figures.



    Oscar agrees with them, too. >>




    Cute cat. He looks like an Oscar too.
  • MikeKingMikeKing Posts: 847
    fyi it graded at pcgs as an AU 50.

    (maybe the luster, which doesn't show up in the photo and is pretty much c/w an au 50-55 raised this lady to the AU 50)
  • coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭


    << <i>fyi it graded at pcgs as an AU 50.

    (maybe the luster, which doesn't show up in the photo and is pretty much c/w an au 50-55 raised this lady to the AU 50) >>



    Doesn't surprise me at all. I didn't see this thread the first time, so when I first saw the coin just now, my guess was EF45, but PQ. I can see how PCGS would bump it to an AU...
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  • AU58WALKERSAU58WALKERS Posts: 3,562 ✭
    A very nice 1809. way to go, Mike.
    "Everyday above ground is a good day"

  • MikeKingMikeKing Posts: 847
    trueview is still being done by the way!
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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    very nice coin, quite a bit nicer than mine

    image

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  • AU58WALKERSAU58WALKERS Posts: 3,562 ✭


    << <i>very nice coin, quite a bit nicer than mine

    image >>


    I would like to have either one
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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭
    au 50
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  • AU58WALKERSAU58WALKERS Posts: 3,562 ✭
    Mike asked me to inform the board that he has been banned for reasons unknow to him.
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