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1960's Football Olympians,

I changed the 1960's olympics page so that it automatically keeps up to date. For it to tabulate the medal totals correctly, though, you'll have to give all of your sets the same name, e.g., Nearmint's Collection. There's one exception to that: if you have multiples of the same set, you can number them 1, 2, and 3. For example, Fuzz has some of his sets named Fuzzdude 1, Fuzzdude 2, and Fuzzdude 3, and the page rolls them up correctly.

The page is kind of slow, but once I fix that, I'll do pre-50's, 70's, and 80's the same way. If the baseball, basketball, and hockey guys are interested, it'll be easy for me to do those, too.

Check it out, and let me know of any problems.

Mike

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  • Mike,
    Thank you for the efforts that you have put into this. As one has put a lot of time into counting a recounting, this will be great. Maybe I will have enough time to actually enter more of the cards that I have.
    I do see part of the way down the list that both MOSH and I have second listing even though the name is the same. I'm not sure that those with a more creative flair like Wolf, Shoulda, Skinsfan and the Fabulous One will abandon the more creative naming approach to be more accurately measured though. Any of you guys care to comment?
    Also when I tried some of the searches, they didn't work well. most of the stuff of the oddball nature and the later 60's stuff. I can deal some specifics if you need.
    Thanks again, because I like any system that gets me a little closer to catching the Empire.
    Fuzz
    Wanted: Bell Brands FB and BB, Chiefs regionals especially those ugly milk cards, Coke caps, Topps and Fleer inserts and test issues from the 60's. 1981 FB Rack pack w/ Jan Stenerud on top.
  • shouldabeena10shouldabeena10 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭
    In keeping with the spirit of the sixties .... I refuse to conform to your "one name for all sets" rule.

    I enjoyed it much more when Fuzz had to do all of the legwork, then we could tease him when he messed up the results.

    As a matter of fact, just to keep old Fuzz busy.... I'm going to go change the names of some of my 60's sets to MOSH 2.


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    "Vintage Football Cards" A private Facebook Group of 4000 members, for vintage football card trading, sales & auctions. https://facebook.com/groups/vintagefootball/
  • nearmintnearmint Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭
    Fuzz,

    Thanks for the feedback; I'll check out the bugs later this week. I get the set names directly from the PSA site now, so some of the oddball set names probably don't match up.

    Mike T2,

    Yeah, I didn't expect you to conform. No biggie, we'll just have shoulda/coulda/woulda lines throughout the medals summary. I hadn't thought of the MOSH impersonation scheme--pretty clever!

    Mike
  • nearmintnearmint Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭
    Okay, Fuzz, I think all the eBay searches work now. Have fun!
  • The names have been changed to protect the innocent


    There was a fuzzy bear that had no hair but now he is just a SKINSFAN
  • nearmintnearmint Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭
    More changes:

    The 70's football olympics and pre-60's olympics pages now update automatically, too. They're updated once a day.

    As with the 60's, in order for your sets to be tabulated correctly, you'll need to give them all the same name, e.g., SKINSFAN.

    If I get time this week, I'll do baseball, too. Maybe a baseball collector can tell me what a good breakdown would be? Pre-1940, 40's, 50', 60's, 70's?

    Mike

  • If you were to check the page this morning...
    I don't want to say anything special because the Empire is all gold and I have Silver and Bronze.
    The Empire has main sets and I have more fringe and supplemental sets.
    The Empire has a staff and I have a cat that helps.
    But for a brief instant
    If you were to check the page this morning...
    There's a new sheriff in town......
    And his name is FUZZ

    PS. I would to thank several individuals not the least of which is Shouldbeena for making this take a lot longer than it should have and for making this temporary lead so marginal that it will not last more than a few days.
    Wanted: Bell Brands FB and BB, Chiefs regionals especially those ugly milk cards, Coke caps, Topps and Fleer inserts and test issues from the 60's. 1981 FB Rack pack w/ Jan Stenerud on top.
  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    Fuzz,

    Its clear the Evil Empire is in turmoil. Jeremy must be pulling his hair out.

    I wish you a lengthy run in second place(1 spot ahead of the Empire).
  • I am changing my name to usetobeaplayer

    If Skinsfan CAN JUST JOIN UP WITH THAT CRAZY SCHOOL OF ART GUY and a couple other crazy names maybe that would help

    Also i see mastro already has a couple top sets thats 1 heck of a funny ring set they have image
    I bet they list a top 66 topps set also in a week or so.

    Were do they get these cards
  • shouldabeena10shouldabeena10 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I am changing my name to usetobeaplayer >>



    Hey Art,

    We took a poll of all the football guys, and it was unanimous ... your new name is: ShouldaBoughtaVowel

    At first we were tempted to misspell it, but eventually decided to just change your avatar over to a picture of the Webster's Dictionary ... with a big mustard stain on the cover.

    We've also contacted Mastro, and they've agreed to use some of your linguistic pearls of wisdom when describing your sets in their catalog. My favorite one so far, is your description of the 1966 Funny Ring set: "Liddle cardboard purrfurratetid rings wit silly faces on them. THEY FUNNY AND THEy make me laff. You could cut them out and ware them if you want ... but I woodn't. HAHAHA THESE ARE all EXSPENSIV AND SUPER SUPPER TUFF LOW POP but I sell them to U for now. OK, Nuff said. GO REDSKins!!"

    Good luck in the auction! image

    Mike
    "Vintage Football Cards" A private Facebook Group of 4000 members, for vintage football card trading, sales & auctions. https://facebook.com/groups/vintagefootball/
  • Hello Mike,

    Now that you are making them automated, could we perhaps get 1980's and 1990's Olympics? I pretty much only collect modern. Collecting PSA is more of a fun hobby to me and I buy mostly the cards I did when I use to collect.

    Mark
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • nearmintnearmint Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭
    Okay, Mark, here you go:

    1980's Football Card Olympics
    1990's Football Card Olympics

    The eBay searches don't work yet. I'll try to get to those this week.

    Have fun!

    Mike
  • The song remains the same. . .

    thanks Mike!
    Jeremy
  • Jeremy,
    Seems as if being the big fish in a little pond or often the only fish in the pond is a claim to fame. For a good number of the sets in the new pages are yet to even garner three entrants let alone a lot of meaningful competition.
    Please check on Mike's well done 60's BB page. While several of the larger name players are not yet using a naming convention that is needed, take a look at who is on top and who is in second. Interesting ? I personally would like to invite the empire over to where the big dogs play. If this doesn't work try the 50's or before. This is a great place to find someone who will help you eat your lunch or dispose of that extra lunch money. For safety sake new kids should bring a metal linchbox, no glass thermos.
    We'll be waiting.
    Fuzz
    Wanted: Bell Brands FB and BB, Chiefs regionals especially those ugly milk cards, Coke caps, Topps and Fleer inserts and test issues from the 60's. 1981 FB Rack pack w/ Jan Stenerud on top.
  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    Fuzz,

    I think he has seen the whites of your eyes and blinked.

    I would not be surprised to see a replication in football what we have seen in vintage basketball....panic selling!!!!

    Jeremy may be the last to realize this.

    Dav
  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,437 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Skinfan, I must be blind but I cant find the auction # for the funny rings. Can someone post the #. Thanks in advance, Joe
    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.


  • << <i>For a good number of the sets in the new pages are yet to even garner three entrants let alone a lot of meaningful competition. >>


    Are you talking about the oddball 60s FB Sets? image

    Of course you are talking about the 80s and 90s, but who's fault is it that no one has gotten serious? Plus I would consider you and Davalillo big dogs and you are all over Football. As for the Baseball argument, yes each of you should be given credit for biting off more than you can chew (oh thats a good one Jeremy).

    Now you all know I can't speak directly for MOSH, I am not MOSH. But in my opinion, football is where it's at, and I think Jason will agree image. (Cheers!) I've never heard MOSH claim to be either a big fish or a small fish (but hey, wouldn't you want to be a big fish???). Everyone and their mom does baseball. Whenever I am asked why I personally only do football I say it's because there are just too many people doing baseball, over saturated so to speak. When I first started I did some baseball but honestly it just wasn't for me, and I am guessing it's not for a lot of people either image.

    Not that I can't respect a great PSA graded baseball set, or hockey set, or non-sports set for that matter.

    And Jim, the sale of that basketball stuff has been debated before, but more to your point - I would never be surprised to see anything sold off from any of you guys. Moreover, panic is one word that I wouldn't associate with MOSH. I think it's not so much as being competitive with these sets, it's more about achieiving goals. These Olympics just add to the fun.

    Now about seeing the whites of your eyes . . .This will be the first year TFCS will be setting up at the National. I'd love to see some of you in person - we can talk about whatever sport you want, although if you want to talk baseball you'll first have to explain who these guys Mantle and Ruth are, and what they are batting this year.

    Looking forward to your very interesting and amusing follow ups!
    Jeremy
  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    Jeremy,

    You're a good sport about this.

    But, John did take a fair loss on the basketball so a good source tells me.

    And Fuzz and I will bring him to his knees in football--we guarantee it!

    There's always time to switch teams--I understand Fuzz needs a personal assistant to help him with all his sets.

    Dav
  • JasP24JasP24 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭


    << <i>
    Now you all know I can't speak directly for MOSH, I am not MOSH. But in my opinion, football is where it's at, and I think Jason will agree image. (Cheers!) >>



    Hoist 'em high...image..lol

    Anybody who's anybody collects football...image

    The question is, does MOSH know he just got his NFL HOF RC set (Set of the Year in 2006) blasted out of his top spot???lol

    Jason
    I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit,
    according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
  • Jim, in looking over the numbers, your source is off a little bit - the Bowman [edit] and Fleer sales were, well . . .very nice.


    Jason, blasted is such an explosive word, the other 20+ HOF RC sets didn't disappear did they?
    for what he paid for some of those cards, to consolidate those sets, he deserves something - 1st place even. Again, less about being number one and more about pursuing the best, #1 rankings are just the gravy.

    and don't think we didn't sell him some of those to him - how can someone say no to an offer they can't refuse? right Jason?

    good times
    Jeremy
  • JasP24JasP24 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭
    Very true J-man...

    What fight4olddc has done in a couple of months was astouding..Of course, not a cheap venture either, but astounding none the less..

    Just wondering if MOSH knew, and if he cared..There was a time when MOSH also spared no expense..Trust me, he owns many of my old cards as well by making offers I couldnt refuse....He didnt get to the #1 spot without help from guys like you and I either...

    Surprising to me to see him stand by and watch it happen..Back when I was the #1 guy on the set, MOSH held back a bunch of his upgrades until the very last day before the Registry awards and promptly added about 1.00 to his Set Rating and passed me by a wide margin.I know he (John at MOSH) did care about winning back then.

    Jason

    I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit,
    according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
  • It could be that the hold back wasn't intentional. There are 100s of card right now that haven't been entered in yet and a bunch of sets where cards were entered but the sets haven't been validated. I've already set aside time before the awards to go through and make sure everything is updated and validated.

    Not to mention all of the stuff that needs to be submitted in the next few months leading up to the deadline.

    Also, as a casual observer back then, I think some of those prices MOSH paid and offered back in the day seem a little tame now (and some still stand out).

    Yes the Rookie HOF set is a very important set, but it's also just one set of many.
    Jeremy
  • Dueces the funny ring set will be in the April auction along with a very high grade 66 set and a large run of 66 nines , So i am told anyway image

    Now as for you guys selling out to the empire
    I just dont understand how you guys could do such a thing at any price ,you should save that for me lol imageimageimageimage

    Now fight for old DC
    How can you not sell to someone with that name ,THE MAN HAS TRUE TASTE image

    But a word to the wise there is a not so new kid who has quitetly started to come out from behind the snow banks in his Colorado home who seems to be buying a ton cards from the 60,s but they dont seem to make it to his website to be resold hmmmmmmmmmimageimageimage

    The name has been changed to hide his identity but we can just call him puremint
  • more like puregemmint, whats with him and the PSA 10s?
    Jeremy
  • nearmintnearmint Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭


    << <i>more like puregemmint, whats with him and the PSA 10s? >>



    Call it the very slow track to #1...
  • shouldabeena10shouldabeena10 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭
    I've been warning you guys for quite a while that Mike and I should change user names. I've become the Near Mint card collector .... and he's the real PSA 10 monster!

    This whole Olympics thing is just his way of sucking everyone in for the kill. When he finally decides to start listing the massive pile of vintage 9's and 10's he's been hoarding, the sheer weight involved will easily crash the server.

    The evil empire comes in many shapes and forms, and one of them is wearing a red sweater with a big "W" on the front.
    "Vintage Football Cards" A private Facebook Group of 4000 members, for vintage football card trading, sales & auctions. https://facebook.com/groups/vintagefootball/
  • nearmintnearmint Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭
    Fear the Near? Hmm, doesn't quite make you tremble, does it?
  • Mike- Great job with these Olympics. I'm going to have to insist that you get my correct medal totals for the 80's and more 90's. I'm not up in MOSH territory, but in the 90's I'm closeimage
    Baseball is my Pastime, Football is my Passion
  • shouldabeena10shouldabeena10 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭
    Ok, so what's everyone's 4 favorite (mainstream and oddball) football sets from the 60's? My tend to change from time to time, but for now I'll go with:

    Oddball:

    1964 Wheaties
    1962 Salada coins
    1963 Stancraft
    1969 Topps 4-in-1's

    Mainstream:

    1962 Topps (I'm looking forward to rebuilding this one again)
    1960 Topps
    1964 Philly
    1965 Topps Tallboys

    "Vintage Football Cards" A private Facebook Group of 4000 members, for vintage football card trading, sales & auctions. https://facebook.com/groups/vintagefootball/
  • Mainstream(in no order):

    1967 Philly
    1962 Topps
    1963 Topps
    1965 Topps

    Oddball: I leave those for the, well you know, Oddballs image

    but the 1968 Stand Ups & 1962 Posts are nice
    Jeremy
  • nearmintnearmint Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭
    Frank,

    Thanks for the compliment. In order to get your sets to add up, you'll have to name them all the same thing, e.g., Fabfrank. Adding them up was too much work to do manually, so I wrote a little code to do it. It runs once a day, so the tables stay current. There wasn't a good way to match up all of Art and Mike's crazy set names, so it just looks for sets with the same name.

    Favorite 60's sets:
    - 1963 Topps
    - 1962 Fleer
    - 1969 Topps
    - 1960 Fleer

    Seems I like bright colors!

    Oddball:
    - 1968 Topps Standups
    - Probably the Kahn's sets, but oddly, I've never seen one in person.

  • Thanks Mike,

    I was in Tucson (at the annual large mineral show) when you posted your reply.....you made my day. I am Mark's Cards on the registry. Will have to list some of my other cards now....

    Mark
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    Jeremy,

    Leaf? I was talking about the bath he took on the vintage basketball sets.

    Jason--not the same MOSH. He's peaked. Nobody flips the vintage b-ball sets at a loss like he John did unless there are other factors at play.

    Dav
  • nearmintnearmint Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭
    No problem, Mark. It looks like there's some room for you in the 90's tables. I never knew how many sets there were that decade!
  • My mistake I meant Bowman Basketball (I've had Leaf on my mind all week). I fixed my original post.

    Now Dav, I don't know how many times or how many different ways you need to hear something before you understand. Without anything to lose or gain in the matter, the sale was far from a bath. I’ve seen the numbers broken down in more ways than you can imagine and the auctions were neither a flip nor a flop.

    It still amazes me, about what people think MOSH has done, paid, bought or sold. 95% of it is pure garbage. I don’t know where most of it comes from, but I am beginning to understand. Perhaps the better question is why is it spread? Your guess is as good as mine, but my money is on dislike, frustration or boredom.

    Just last week, I was on the phone and someone asked why MOSH paid some extraordinarily high X amount of dollars for some card that MOSH doesn’t have and wouldn’t even be interested in. Same source perhaps?

    As I find myself trying to convince Dav of something he doesn’t want to believe in the first place, I am reminded that Dav hasn’t been ashamed to sling mud in this direction for some time now. But then again, he never claimed to be the quintessential well-wisher.

    On to bigger and better issues . . .
    Jeremy
  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    Jeremy,

    I am not slinging mud. For what I know John Ohle could be a nice guy. Nothing wrong with losing money on flipping your basketball sets. I think the King of Vintage Basketball sold him most of his cards and he bought them back so I suspect he knows the exact numbers. If you would like me to ask him to disclose the exact numbers, I will ask and we will see who is right?

    Fuzz, I think there is trouble in paradise--they are obviously threatened by your big move. I fooresee many late night strategy sessions between Jeremy and the Evil Empire.

    Dav
  • you'll have to name them all the same thing, e.g., Fabfrank
    Actually, all my sets are titled "Fabfranks...." I don't know if that helps, but maybe your program can pick up the first name of a set. Anyway, it's still all in fun.
    Baseball is my Pastime, Football is my Passion
  • shouldabeena10shouldabeena10 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Anyway, it's still all in fun. >>




    Apparently, Lillo didn't get the memo? image
    "Vintage Football Cards" A private Facebook Group of 4000 members, for vintage football card trading, sales & auctions. https://facebook.com/groups/vintagefootball/
  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    Come on Mike,

    I complemented Jeremy on being a good sport--is saying somebody lost money on a short term flip of their basketball sets that bad of a thing. Heck I have overpaid for stuff--like probably that beautiful Stancraft set you sold me.
  • Heck I have overpaid for stuff
    Haven't we allimage
    Baseball is my Pastime, Football is my Passion
  • It's all good.

    On to more important things. I would agree that the 1960 Fleer issue was pretty good looking also.
    In stark contrast to the bland and bleached out look of the 1961 Fleer cards.
    Jeremy
  • Since Jeremy is going to give me 50% on anything i buy i agree with anything he says imageimageimage

    MY FOUR WOULD BE
    63 TOPPS
    66 TOPPS
    67 PHILLY
    68 TOPPS


    My favorite 4 odd balls image

    Couldabeena, fuzz, wolfbear, puregemmint

    oh wait thats another list image

    My crazy sets are

    66 funnyrings
    67 crazy pennants
    68 stand ups
    62 post
  • nearmintnearmint Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Actually, all my sets are titled "Fabfranks...." I don't know if that helps, but maybe your program can pick up the first name of a set. Anyway, it's still all in fun. >>



    If that worked for all cases, Frank, I'd do it, but that would break it for other people. If the code looked at just the first word, Dave Lemon's sets would end up getting lumped in with Dave Wyse's, for example. No matter what the rule, it would miss some sets or group some that shouldn't be grouped, so it's best just to leave it simple.

    I thought of other tactics, too, such as looking at sets' email addresses. But not everyone exposes their email address. It was enough of a challenge handling sets that aren't exposed, but I did manage to do that.

    It's free, and it works well enough for people who care about it. Other than adding more decades and sports, though, I don't think I'll mess with it anymore. And I definitely don't have time to go back to doing it by hand.

    Sorry...

    Mike
  • shouldabeena10shouldabeena10 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I definitely don't have time to go back to doing it by hand. >>



    I thought we had Fuzz on the payroll for this task? Didn't everyone let him win a couple of ebay 9's last month ... like we'd all agreed would be his compensation?

    Don't start slacking now Fuzz.

    Chop Chop

    "Vintage Football Cards" A private Facebook Group of 4000 members, for vintage football card trading, sales & auctions. https://facebook.com/groups/vintagefootball/
  • wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭

    Favorite 1960's sets :

    1962 Fleer
    1964 Topps
    1963 Topps
    1963 Fleer


    Favorite oddball sets :

    1972 NFLPA Wonderful World of Stamps
    1972 Sunco Stamps

    oops ... those are from the 1970's ...


    Favorite 1960's players :

    Fred 'The Hammer' Williamson
    Keith Lincoln
    Ernie Ladd
    Don Meredith


    Favorite 1960's teams :

    San Diego Chargers
    Oakland Raiders
    Dallas Cowboys
    Green Bay Packers


    Favorite things to do on dates :

    Long walks on the beach
    Sharing little secrets while sipping lattes
    Cuddling in front of the fireplace
    Getting tanked up on gin and blaring the stereo

    ... but I digress ...

    Pix of 'My Kids'

    "How about a little fire Scarecrow ?"
  • nearmintnearmint Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Long walks on the beach
    Sharing little secrets while sipping lattes
    Cuddling in front of the fireplace
    Getting tanked up on gin and blaring the stereo
    >>



    Wolfbear, I'd believe these if they all ended with "with my cards."
  • wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭

    Looks like we have the end of an era in 1963 Fleer :

    .................................. Weighted ... Comp .... Set
    ........................................ GPA ...... letion .. Rating

    1 - marks red backs ... 8.66 ... 100.00% .. 8.66

    2 - Fuzzdude 1 ............. 8.52 ... 100.00% .. 8.52 ... imageimageimageimage

    image

    Pix of 'My Kids'

    "How about a little fire Scarecrow ?"
  • SAY ITS NOT SO THE END OF A DYNASTY

    Maybe the Fuzz will sell you a few COME ON Wolf never say never still 15 days left

    Be like the little train image

    Still a heck of a run my man imageimageimageimage
  • Guys,
    I predicted this more than a year ago in another post that it would eventually happen. Mark focuses on these sets, has a great collection and is always willing to step up and pay top dollar for these. During the last six months, I haven't focused on these but on other sets, haven't been willing to pay enough to win and have a minimal interest in the set. I am looking for the two cards that I need to upgrade to an all 8 set and that will be it unless prices fall substantially for the common 9's as I have most of the HOF's in 9. Mark deserves it and I would like to be the first to offer an official congratulations on winning this set.
    I am quietly expanding the range of FB and back into BB some trying to better emulate the Dav strategy of enough is enough. Even a second place 8.5 set isn't that bad.
    Fuzz
    Wanted: Bell Brands FB and BB, Chiefs regionals especially those ugly milk cards, Coke caps, Topps and Fleer inserts and test issues from the 60's. 1981 FB Rack pack w/ Jan Stenerud on top.
  • Many of the 60's races never developed this year or were over long ago. The race that I have been watching closely for the last couple of months has been in 61 Fleer. Three incedible sets at the top and just a hair seperating Antix and Nearmint. Coming down to the wire. Good Luck guys. MOSH and I both have high GPA sets but are probably a year or two away from being able to compete. Should continue to be an interesting set. Any others that I have missed?
    Fuzz
    Wanted: Bell Brands FB and BB, Chiefs regionals especially those ugly milk cards, Coke caps, Topps and Fleer inserts and test issues from the 60's. 1981 FB Rack pack w/ Jan Stenerud on top.
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