That's nice, Jonesy. I have one of those New Hampshire quarters. It's upside down too, but I don't care that the mint screwed it up. I'm glad to see that I'm not alone.
<< <i>That's nice, Jonesy. I have one of those New Hampshire quarters. It's upside down too, but I don't care that the mint screwed it up. I'm glad to see that I'm not alone. >>
<< <i>That's nice, Jonesy. I have one of those New Hampshire quarters. It's upside down too, but I don't care that the mint screwed it up. I'm glad to see that I'm not alone. >>
I've got a few 1999 Deleware statehood quarters that are 180% and 170 % rotated die. I had them graded at PCGS....AU55-AU58.
Jonsey......How did PCGS know it was a Reverse rotated die and not a obverse rotated die???? I can answer that...PCGS doesn't have a clue which die was reversed. The first few I had graded, PCGS marked the label on the holder rotated reverse die, the ones I had graded later PCGS just marked the label rotated die.
<< <i>I've got a few 1999 Deleware statehood quarters that are 180% and 170 % rotated die. I had them graded at PCGS....AU55-AU58.
Jonsey......How did PCGS know it was a Reverse rotated die and not a obverse rotated die???? I can answer that...PCGS doesn't have a clue which die was reversed. The first few I had graded, PCGS marked the label on the holder rotated reverse die, the ones I had graded later PCGS just marked the label rotated die.
They should perhaps be called rotated anvil dies since not all coins are struck right side up. The hammer dies (for US coins) are locked in place in such a way that they are not prone to rotating. Most coins now are struck on horizontal quad presses with four sets of dies.
This coin is fun to look for in circulation but is quite tough. Uncs are scarce.
They're called Rotated Reverse coins because the reverse is rotated in relationship to the obverse, which is how folks usually first hold up the coin--- obverse- normal, reverse - rotated IN RELATIONSHIP to the obv.
Either die can rotate, and it's impossible to know which one, so it's alot easier to call them Rotated Reverse's, which they ARE, in relationship to the obverse.
Hope this helps.....
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They should perhaps be called rotated anvil dies since not all coins are struck right side up. The hammer dies (for US coins) are locked in place in such a way that they are not prone to rotating. Most coins now are struck on horizontal quad presses with four sets of dies.
This coin is fun to look for in circulation but is quite tough. Uncs are scarce. >>
It is wrong to assume that it is the anvil die that has rotated. In fact, in all the multi-strikes and multi-errors I've seen that feature a die rotation between strikes (or which offer other clues as to which die rotated), it has always been the hammer die.
Die rotations can be dynamic or static. Static rotations can result from incorrect installation or incorrect grinding of guide marks, leading to incorrect installation. Dynamic rotations would presumably be caused by a die coming loose and rotating freely. Some dynamic rotations may end up as static rotations if the die is tightened down without being repositioned in its normal orientation.
A rotated die census doesn't make much sense, since many rotated die errors ARE dynamic.
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I also have 1985-P quater dollar of the same type. I found it in change in the late 1980's, not slabbed but probably AU-55. An article was written in C-W's Collectors Clearinghouse in or about 1990.
<< <i>I also have 1985-P quater dollar of the same type. I found it in change in the late 1980's, not slabbed but probably AU-55. An article was written in C-W's Collectors Clearinghouse in or about 1990. >>
Because of that article I began looking for one. Took me almost two years to find mine.
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<< <i>That's nice, Jonesy. I have one of those New Hampshire quarters. It's upside down too, but I don't care that the mint screwed it up. I'm glad to see that I'm not alone. >>
New Hampshire huh.
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<< <i>That's nice, Jonesy. I have one of those New Hampshire quarters. It's upside down too, but I don't care that the mint screwed it up. I'm glad to see that I'm not alone. >>
New Hampshire huh.
You got it! I'm not sure if it's P or D offhand.
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<< <i>cool. What is it worth? >>
One hundred billion dollars.
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<< <i>cool. What is it worth? >>
One hundred billion dollars.
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Jonsey......How did PCGS know it was a Reverse rotated die and not a obverse rotated die???? I can answer that...PCGS doesn't have a clue which die was reversed. The first few I had graded, PCGS marked the label on the holder rotated reverse die, the ones I had graded later PCGS just marked the label rotated die.
Cool coin BTW.
<< <i>I've got a few 1999 Deleware statehood quarters that are 180% and 170 % rotated die. I had them graded at PCGS....AU55-AU58.
Jonsey......How did PCGS know it was a Reverse rotated die and not a obverse rotated die???? I can answer that...PCGS doesn't have a clue which die was reversed. The first few I had graded, PCGS marked the label on the holder rotated reverse die, the ones I had graded later PCGS just marked the label rotated die.
Cool coin BTW.
I have no idea!!
They should perhaps be called rotated anvil dies since not all coins are struck
right side up. The hammer dies (for US coins) are locked in place in such a way
that they are not prone to rotating. Most coins now are struck on horizontal quad
presses with four sets of dies.
This coin is fun to look for in circulation but is quite tough. Uncs are scarce.
because the reverse is rotated in
relationship to the obverse, which
is how folks usually first hold up the
coin--- obverse- normal, reverse - rotated
IN RELATIONSHIP to the obv.
Either die can rotate, and it's impossible
to know which one, so it's alot easier
to call them Rotated Reverse's, which
they ARE, in relationship to the obverse.
Hope this helps.....
<< <i>Here is a list of known rotated reverses.
They should perhaps be called rotated anvil dies since not all coins are struck
right side up. The hammer dies (for US coins) are locked in place in such a way
that they are not prone to rotating. Most coins now are struck on horizontal quad
presses with four sets of dies.
This coin is fun to look for in circulation but is quite tough. Uncs are scarce. >>
It is wrong to assume that it is the anvil die that has rotated. In fact, in all the multi-strikes and multi-errors I've seen that feature a die rotation between strikes (or which offer other clues as to which die rotated), it has always been the hammer die.
Die rotations can be dynamic or static. Static rotations can result from incorrect installation or incorrect grinding of guide marks, leading to incorrect installation. Dynamic rotations would presumably be caused by a die coming loose and rotating freely. Some dynamic rotations may end up as static rotations if the die is tightened down without being repositioned in its normal orientation.
A rotated die census doesn't make much sense, since many rotated die errors ARE dynamic.
<< <i>I also have 1985-P quater dollar of the same type. I found it in change in the late 1980's, not slabbed but probably AU-55. An article was written in C-W's Collectors Clearinghouse in or about 1990. >>
Because of that article I began looking for one. Took me almost two years to find mine.
You're welcome.
Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies.
<< <i>Here, I fixed it for you.
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