This will probably hurt your eyes after feasting on the previous gems but I don't see this variety posted. The two shows doubling at the bottom and the 5 has a knot on it? I took some pics of the reverse but I'm not sure I shot the correct areas up close to attribute the Overton#. If this rag doesn't kill your eyes can Mozin or someone else identify it? And yes the photography sux as much as the coin and you can quote me on that. Thanks
Welcome to our Capped Bust Half Dollar series. Your 1825 Bustie appears to be O-108 R3. What you see as doubling on the date must be from circulation. I posted my 1825 O-108 earlier in this thread. Check it out.
I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
Obverse: Star 1 points to lower half of dentil. 8 leans to the right. Stand of 2 is thin and nearly broken where it joins to a thick base. The upper curl of the 2 points to star 10. (In O-109 R5, it points to I in the headband.) Mouth is open.
Reverse: 50 C is low. Letters in the legend are especially tall. I is far left of T. (Reverse shared with O-109.)
I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
Here's another missing die MARRIAGE: the 1825 O-103, R4-
This die pairing could be a interesting example of the pressure the Coiner was feeling at the Mint to keep up production striking Bust Halves.
Let me - use some creative license and vivid imagination - try to visualize what was happening at the Mint:
(1) The first 1825 CBH struck in the calendar year 1825 was the O-102 using Obv. Die 2 and Rev. Die B. This is a R1 die marriage, so we can probably, with reasonable accuracy, assume a large number of this die marriage was struck.
(2) Production is halted. 1825 Obv. Die 2 is removed and put to the side (for some unknown reason). Reverse Die B - previously used to strike the 1824 O-106 - is removed and is never used again.
(3) Evidentally another reverse die was available, but no new 1825 obverse die was ready for use (1825 Obv. Die 2 is left on the sideline). Subsequently a leftover 1824 Obverse Die 12 was mated with 1824 Rev. Die N (1824 Rev. Die N is the same as 1825 Rev. Die D) and the Mint began to strike the "slighty uncommon" 1824 O-115, R2. Again, because this DM is R2, a reasonable amount of coins were probably struck.
(4) A some point towards the end of the striking of the 1824 O-115 it was decided to put 1825 Obverse Die 2 back into use. 1824 Obv. Die 12 was removed from the screw press and the 1825 Obverse Die 2 was put in its place to be mated with the reverse die already in place - this was 1825 Rev. D. The Mint then began to strike the "very scarce" 1825 O-104, R4+ die marriage using the previously used Obv. Die 2 and Rev. Die D.
(5) The striking of the 1825 O-104 was halted. Obverse Die 2 was removed and put on the side for a second time. The reverse die was removed, never to be used again.
(6) A new 1825 obverse die was mated with a new reverse die. The Mint began to strike the 1825 O-118, R8 die marriage using Obv. Die 15 and Rev. die C. The 1825 is a UNIQUE die marriage. Only 2 specimens are known to exist. Shortly after production began Obverse Die 15 cracks and breaks up. Production is halted again.
(7) No new 1825 dated obverse dies are available and ready for production (But, for some reason, 1825 Obv. Die C is still sitting on the sidelines). The Coiner has a leftover 1824 obverse die installed in the screw press and mated with the reverse die already there. The Mint now begins to strike the "scarce" 1824 O-116, R3 using 1824 Obv. Die 13 and 1824 Rev. Die O. (1824 Rev. Die O is the same as 1825 Rev. Die C.)
(8) Something must have happened to 1824 Obv. Die 13. It is removed from production and 1825 Obverse Die 2, which had been put to the side after the striking of the 1825 O-104, is now mated with the existing reverse die in the screw press.
This is the birth of the 1825 O-103, R4-. It is the mating of Obverse Die 2 and Reverse Die C. Both dies had been used to strike two prior die marriages. This will be the third and final use of these dies.
(If you found the above hard to follow: Obverse Die 2 was used prior to strike 1825 O-102 and later O-104. Reverse Die C was used prior to strike the 1825 O-118 and then the 1824 O-116.)
Quick Indentifiers of this die marriage are on the reverse: (The unique 1825 O-118 has the same identifiers on the reverse.)
(a) A vertical line crosses the upper five crossbars in the upper left corner of the shield. (b) The ED of UNITED touch at the bottom. The left bottom serif of the D is slightly above the bottom of the E. The bottom right serif of the E has be recut with a doubling on the diagonal. (c) AM of AMERICA are joined. The ME are very close with the lower right serif of the M higher than the lower left serif of the E.
Obverse: Star 1 points to lower half of dentil, and it is recut at its upper and upper inner points, showing on the right. Star 13 touches curl.
Reverse: Low 50 C is broadly doubled. ED, AM, and RI are each pair joined at base. Large serif of first T in STATES touches the curve of S. I is centered under the left side of T.
I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
Obverse: Star 1 points to lower half of dentil. Hair extends into headband between RT at base. 5 is tipped left, with sharp points on curl and serif of 2. Bar shows just right of base of 1.
Reverse: Extra diverging lines at bottom of stripe 6. Stripe 4 has two tines near bottom on right side. A base above adjacent M base, and R base above adjacent I base. Left sides of I and T are in line.
I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
Comments
Welcome to our Capped Bust Half Dollar series. Your 1825 Bustie appears to be O-108 R3. What you see as doubling on the date must be from circulation. I posted my 1825 O-108 earlier in this thread. Check it out.
Some diagnostics for 1825 O-110 R2:
Obverse: Star 1 points to lower half of dentil. 8 leans to the right. Stand of 2 is thin and nearly broken where it joins to a thick base. The upper curl of the 2 points to star 10. (In O-109 R5, it points to I in the headband.) Mouth is open.
Reverse: 50 C is low. Letters in the legend are especially tall. I is far left of T. (Reverse shared with O-109.)
This die pairing could be a interesting example of the pressure the Coiner was feeling at the Mint to keep up production striking Bust Halves.
Let me - use some creative license and vivid imagination - try to visualize what was happening at the Mint:
(1) The first 1825 CBH struck in the calendar year 1825 was the O-102 using Obv. Die 2 and Rev. Die B. This is a R1 die marriage, so we can probably, with reasonable accuracy, assume a large number of this die marriage was struck.
(2) Production is halted. 1825 Obv. Die 2 is removed and put to the side (for some unknown reason). Reverse Die B - previously used to strike the 1824 O-106 - is removed and is never used again.
(3) Evidentally another reverse die was available, but no new 1825 obverse die was ready for use (1825 Obv. Die 2 is left on the sideline). Subsequently a leftover 1824 Obverse Die 12 was mated with 1824 Rev. Die N (1824 Rev. Die N is the same as 1825 Rev. Die D) and the Mint began to strike the "slighty uncommon" 1824 O-115, R2. Again, because this DM is R2, a reasonable amount of coins were probably struck.
(4) A some point towards the end of the striking of the 1824 O-115 it was decided to put 1825 Obverse Die 2 back into use. 1824 Obv. Die 12 was removed from the screw press and the 1825 Obverse Die 2 was put in its place to be mated with the reverse die already in place - this was 1825 Rev. D. The Mint then began to strike the "very scarce" 1825 O-104, R4+ die marriage using the previously used Obv. Die 2 and Rev. Die D.
(5) The striking of the 1825 O-104 was halted. Obverse Die 2 was removed and put on the side for a second time. The reverse die was removed, never to be used again.
(6) A new 1825 obverse die was mated with a new reverse die. The Mint began to strike the 1825 O-118, R8 die marriage using Obv. Die 15 and Rev. die C. The 1825 is a UNIQUE die marriage. Only 2 specimens are known to exist. Shortly after production began Obverse Die 15 cracks and breaks up. Production is halted again.
(7) No new 1825 dated obverse dies are available and ready for production (But, for some reason, 1825 Obv. Die C is still sitting on the sidelines). The Coiner has a leftover 1824 obverse die installed in the screw press and mated with the reverse die already there. The Mint now begins to strike the "scarce" 1824 O-116, R3 using 1824 Obv. Die 13 and 1824 Rev. Die O. (1824 Rev. Die O is the same as 1825 Rev. Die C.)
(8) Something must have happened to 1824 Obv. Die 13. It is removed from production and 1825 Obverse Die 2, which had been put to the side after the striking of the 1825 O-104, is now mated with the existing reverse die in the screw press.
This is the birth of the 1825 O-103, R4-. It is the mating of Obverse Die 2 and Reverse Die C. Both dies had been used to strike two prior die marriages. This will be the third and final use of these dies.
(If you found the above hard to follow: Obverse Die 2 was used prior to strike 1825 O-102 and later O-104. Reverse Die C was used prior to strike the 1825 O-118 and then the 1824 O-116.)
Quick Indentifiers of this die marriage are on the reverse: (The unique 1825 O-118 has the same identifiers on the reverse.)
(a) A vertical line crosses the upper five crossbars in the upper left corner of the shield.
(b) The ED of UNITED touch at the bottom. The left bottom serif of the D is slightly above the bottom of the E. The bottom right serif of the E has be recut with a doubling on the diagonal.
(c) AM of AMERICA are joined. The ME are very close with the lower right serif of the M higher than the lower left serif of the E.
Photos of my 1825 O-103, R4-
Some diagnostics for 1825 O-111 R3:
Obverse: Star 1 points to lower half of dentil, and it is recut at its upper and upper inner points, showing on the right. Star 13 touches curl.
Reverse: Low 50 C is broadly doubled. ED, AM, and RI are each pair joined at base. Large serif of first T in STATES touches the curve of S. I is centered under the left side of T.
"Your 1825 O-111 posted above is absolutely stunning and mind boggling."
To the group: It has been almost 6 weeks since Mozin posted his 1825 O-111.
We are still missing the 1825 O-106 on this thread. Being a R3 die state, somebody out there has one.
I have not posted my O-106 because it is technically an Intermediate Die State with one of the two reverse die cracks found on the LDS O-106a.
In the meantime please continue to post ANY OF YOUR 1825's for presentation and discussion.
While we are waiting, here are my 1825's on these Dansco pages: (Mozin's O-111 makes my 1825's look like ugly ducklings.)
Some diagnostics for 1825 O-113 R1:
Obverse: Star 1 points between dentils. Star 13 is near curl. 2 has a short, sharp, pointed curl.
Reverse: Right border of shield is extended down too far to the left. 50 C is low. AME nearly touch. I is centered under the left side of T.
Some diagnostics for 1825 O-115 R3:
Obverse: Star 1 points to lower half of dentil. Hair extends into headband between RT at base. 5 is tipped left, with sharp points on curl and serif of 2. Bar shows just right of base of 1.
Reverse: Extra diverging lines at bottom of stripe 6. Stripe 4 has two tines near bottom on right side. A base above adjacent M base, and R base above adjacent I base. Left sides of I and T are in line.
and for the benefit of Fever, it's another Guido.
1825 O-112
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1825 O-106
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