Coins found........

Julio

On Nov. 24, 1814, the HMS Fantome foundered in rough seas, laden with U.S. coins and silverware snatched three months earlier from the dinner table of first lady Dolley Madison during the sacking of Washington.

Knollenberg's company bought the rights to the Fantome site three years ago. NBC filmed about seven hours of material in Halifax to create the segment, said Bob Baca, president of Sovereign Exploration Associates.

The producers of Today are interested in the firm's efforts because it has resulted in an international dispute. Britain has asked Canada to intervene and withhold further exploration permits, citing the "sovereign immunity as Royal Navy warships," a right which the Fantome retains after sinking, said Steve Atkins, a British Embassy spokesman in Washington, D.C. Today begins at 7 a.m.

According to the Web site for Knollenberg's publicly traded firm,

www.sea-int.com, the firm has an agreement with Principle Pictures to develop a five-part series of documentaries, Shipwrecks That Changed the World.
jws
— STEPHANIE MURPHY


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lordmarcovan

Oh, YEAH!

I just slobbered on the keyboard.

Gemini

Hey England we have sovereign immunity too and we're taking our stolen American stuff back....it belongs to us...if you don't like it so sue us...we got plenty of Lawyers here...

Julio

Very cool link Lord. Thanks. jws

TorinoCobra71

This is confirmed STOLEN United States property, SCREW the Brits and bring OUR American Coins home! ESP. the 1804 Dollars!

TorinoCobra71

Julio

I would send these fine gentlemen in. Something tells me nobody really wants to debate with them; they loose. jws

GoldenEyeNumismatics

wow! What are the value of those?

MrEureka

The coins shown on their site are apparently NOT from this wreck.

Julio

Andy; I saw it on TV. .
What I believe they attempted to impart was that several coins were never circulated and they estimated the value at 4 million per coin???
Really don't know. jws

NumisOxide

Conder101

The Brits are in the right. Active duty warships of any country that sink remain the property of that county. So salvage should be left to the Brits, although they should give the finders of the ship a cut as well.

Hugegut

They have a lot of nerve laying claim to goods they stole.... Claiming sovereignty over it when they violated ours to steal it.

Julio

Condor;
The Brits are in the right. Active duty warships of any country that sink remain the property of that county. So salvage should be left to the Brits, although they should give the finders of the ship a cut as well.

Your excellent knowledge and logic reminds me of a person I deeply admire. Diogenes.

There is a legend that to the efffect that Diogenes often walked the streets of Athens with a lantern in his hand, looking---in vain---for an honest man. jws

Julio

Has anyone found out any more info. on these coins? Thanks. jws

Conder101

<< <i>This is confirmed STOLEN United States property, SCREW the Brits and bring OUR American Coins home! ESP. the 1804 Dollars! >>


Sure and we'll return their colonies.

Spoils of war, it has a long history. An army marches in an captures a city, everything that isn't tied down tends to disappear. Sometimes they are taken by the guy in the trenches, sometimes the officers "enforce" no looting orders in which case it is often the officers that come home with the booty. And then sometimes on orders from all the way up top there are strict orders that the men are not to keep what they pick up, in which case usually the invading countries government keeps the spoils.

Coxe

If the Brits win this, I am sure much of the booty will end up in the Smithsonian.

lkenefic

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<< <i>This is confirmed STOLEN United States property, SCREW the Brits and bring OUR American Coins home! ESP. the 1804 Dollars! >>


Sure and we'll return their colonies.

Spoils of war, it has a long history. An army marches in an captures a city, everything that isn't tied down tends to disappear. Sometimes they are taken by the guy in the trenches, sometimes the officers "enforce" no looting orders in which case it is often the officers that come home with the booty. And then sometimes on orders from all the way up top there are strict orders that the men are not to keep what they pick up, in which case usually the invading countries government keeps the spoils. >>



I assume we'll be returning "their" colonies to the Pautuxent Indians?

Conder101

<< <i>I assume we'll be returning "their" colonies to the Pautuxent Indians? >>


That would be up to the British. Once we hand the colonies back to the Brits it's out of our hands.