Zoins, in my opinion you made the right decision. You are now a member of the club with the rest of us... who have jumped before we really looked. Sometimes it's best to just pay the price and move on.... with more knowledge and experience.
Save those negs for the ones who really deserve it that are much more blatant and fraudulent.
That's cool that you didn't neg him. I think negs should be reserved for blantant fraud. It doesn't appear that your seller was fraudulent or misrepresenting his wares.
Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
I have read that if you want to give a neg and not recieve one you need to wwait to the last moment before the listing info expires. I believe it is 90 days after the close of the auction. Hit the send button just before the item closes and it is a negative that the other person cannot respond to.
<< <i>I contacted the seller and asked him about his stated "rarity values over spot" in his listings. I received this prompt, polite and informative reply (corrected for spelling):
"Hi,
Most silver art bar collectors refer to the 1991 silver art Bar guide by J. Archie, Kidd. bar listed in his guide have a rarity value and it equates to the current silver Spot price.
Eg.. Silver closed at $13.03 on wednesday night, If I refer to the rarity value as $35 this in turn means the current best estimated value of the bar is $46.03. Please noted this ref guide was published in 1991 and many of these very rare and scare bars may well be worth a lot more, depending on collectibility.
Hope this helps answer your question.
regards and best wishes. Mark" >>
Great job Mark! As I suspected (and knew), there was a book published about these artsy bars and I thought rarity value was a subject in the book. Zoins, if you plan on collecting these, you might consider picking up a copy of this reference book. I've got plenty of reference guides for various coin series and use them all quite a bit. They have never been a waste of money. And, in fact, several of them have paid for themselves after a cherrypick or two.
<< <i>Great job Mark! As I suspected (and knew), there was a book published about these artsy bars and I thought rarity value was a subject in the book. Zoins, if you plan on collecting these, you might consider picking up a copy of this reference book. I've got plenty of reference guides for various coin series and use them all quite a bit. They have never been a waste of money. And, in fact, several of them have paid for themselves after a cherrypick or two. >>
As I mentioned above, the items in question are not covered by this book (as they happen to be rounds ). I think it's fine that there's 15 year old a book covering rarity value for bars but there is no book for rounds from what I've been told. So when you see a rarity value for a round, it's just made up. I ended up spending $70 with this seller for items that are worth $40, but I think the learning experience was worth at least $70.
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Save those negs for the ones who really deserve it that are much more blatant and fraudulent.
ebay ID: 78terp
ANA # R-3143946
1899 Mint Set
<< <i>I contacted the seller and asked him about his stated "rarity values over spot" in his listings. I received this prompt, polite and informative reply (corrected for spelling):
"Hi,
Most silver art bar collectors refer to the 1991 silver art Bar guide by J. Archie, Kidd. bar listed in his guide have a rarity value and it equates to the current silver Spot price.
Eg.. Silver closed at $13.03 on wednesday night, If I refer to the rarity value as $35 this in turn means the current best estimated value of the bar is $46.03. Please noted this ref guide was published in 1991 and many of these very rare and scare bars may well be worth a lot more, depending on collectibility.
Hope this helps answer your question.
regards and best wishes. Mark" >>
Great job Mark! As I suspected (and knew), there was a book published about these artsy bars and I thought rarity value was a subject in the book. Zoins, if you plan on collecting these, you might consider picking up a copy of this reference book. I've got plenty of reference guides for various coin series and use them all quite a bit. They have never been a waste of money. And, in fact, several of them have paid for themselves after a cherrypick or two.
<< <i>Great job Mark! As I suspected (and knew), there was a book published about these artsy bars and I thought rarity value was a subject in the book. Zoins, if you plan on collecting these, you might consider picking up a copy of this reference book. I've got plenty of reference guides for various coin series and use them all quite a bit. They have never been a waste of money. And, in fact, several of them have paid for themselves after a cherrypick or two. >>
As I mentioned above, the items in question are not covered by this book (as they happen to be rounds
1) Not bid
2) Find out the actual Rarity Value, and bid accordingly
Now that you bid, and the auction is over, and you won, and you STILL dont know what the actual Rarity Value is, there are 3 things you can do:
1) Pay for the item
2) Pay for the item and stop b*tching about the seller's bogus Rarity Value and understand it's all YOUR fault, NOT the sellers
3) Change your ebay user ID to 'Suckerforhype'
<< <i>If you didnt know what the actual Rarity Value was, there were 2 things you could have done:
1) Not bid
2) Find out the actual Rarity Value, and bid accordingly
Now that you bid, and the auction is over, and you won, and you STILL dont know what the actual Rarity Value is, there are 3 things you can do:
1) Pay for the item
2) Pay for the item and stop b*tching about the seller's bogus Rarity Value and understand it's all YOUR fault, NOT the sellers
3) Change your ebay user ID to 'Suckerforhype' >>
Is that Petarded or retarded?