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I wonder if the mint will send out rejected ASE sets?

stev32kstev32k Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭
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I returned 10 - 20th Ann. SAE sets to the mint and have received 5 replacements so far. The other 5 are listed as in stock and reserved. The 10 sets I returned all had milk spots and pitting of some kind on the reverse proofs. Now I wonder if the mint will send those out to someone else. I doubt that any of them would get anything better than a PR68, and would guess that two would have been body bagged for the spots. I wonder what the mint does with the returned sets? Do they melt them down or re-sell them?
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  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    They probably shipped them to me. Mine just shipped yesterday. image

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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,247 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would guess they replace the really crappy coins and then resell the sets. But who knows for sure.
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  • INXSINXS Posts: 1,202 ✭
    Now that they are sold out they will probably keep sending them out until someone accepts them. Somebody will keep them just to have a set rather than not have any at all. I guess somebody could buy multiple sets and maybe salvage one good set and send the others back.
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  • HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,717 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just keep sending them back until you receive ones that you are happy with.
  • bluespaceantbluespaceant Posts: 584
    Is there a chance that they melt the rejects and just mint more coins? Afterall, if they were rejected once, there is a good chance someone else will not like them and return them again.
  • holeinone1972holeinone1972 Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭
    I think since they are soldout, someone on the bubble will be happy to get them.

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  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One Man's garbage.........
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,396 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You would think that the Mint would keep a reserve supply to replace rejected sets. If so, they also likely destroy the rejects, assuming the flaws are visible to them. Good question to ask them, though.
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  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    Possibly...maybe...not quite sure.

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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    Well this whole post really sucks! Big Time! And the more I think about it, the angrier I get!

    My order, which the mint screwed me on, says "3 units backordered. Expected to ship on 12/08/2006."

    So.................... it looks like, you received 10 sets, returned all ten and have received 5 replacement sets in return yet those of us that have orders yet to be fulfilled still have to wait until 12/8?

    I have no doubts in my mind that the mint DOES NOT MELT but REPACKAGES and RESHIPS returned merchandise. So, of all the sets that have been shipped and returned, it looks like those of us at the back of the line will end up with all the CRAP coins!

    My thoughts are that if you return the sets, you should go to the back of the line and not get to go through their current stock to get what you like.
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  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,094 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>They probably shipped them to me. Mine just shipped yesterday. image >>



    Or me, mine shipped yesterday too.
    I'm probably "a day late and a dollar short" but I proceeded to order another set last night. They took the order and , no, I won't hold my breath.

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  • bluespaceantbluespaceant Posts: 584
    If they do send out rejects, wouldn't those be First Strike Rejects?
  • stev32kstev32k Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭
    Here are some shots to show the two reverse proofs that I think would have been body bagged and one of the replacement coins. The spot inside the red circle is a mark I found on each of the ten RPs. At first I thought it was dust on my sensor or lens, but I rotated the coin and the spot stayed in the same place.

    Also notice the diagonal striations on the first two and a kind of "carpet" look on the surface of the replacement coin. I think that must be caused by two different sets of dies.

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    Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my hard drive?
  • ibzman350ibzman350 Posts: 5,315 ✭
    Well of course they will recycle them and I'm afraid I'll be a recipient of that recycling effort.







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  • CoinHuskerCoinHusker Posts: 5,033 ✭✭✭


    << <i> I wonder what the mint does with the returned sets? Do they melt them down or re-sell them? >>




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  • RodiusRodius Posts: 857 ✭
    I'll propabply get them. I have mine on reserve since 9/13. I called the mint on 11/13 and they said that my credit card would not authorize the sale. So they put it back through and bingo, authorized. The customers service rep asked me if I wanted more than my original order as they still have some in stock(after the sell out date). I order two extras. MMMMMMMMM I wonder how many will have spots.image
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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,247 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>My thoughts are that if you return the sets, you should go to the back of the line and not get to go through their current stock to get what you like. >>



    Why should one have to accept crap and then be told to go to the end of the line when they want to exchange that crap for the good stuff they wanted in the first place? Most folks have expectations of high quality for proof manufactured coins and milk spots and gouges aren't part of those expectations.
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    So that everybody gets a fair shot at getting their coins!

    If the mint has replacements to send out, why weren't those "replacements" sent to unfilled orders? If all orders had been filled before replacements were sent, I could understand but these have been shipping since OCTOBER 12th!
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,247 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If the mint has replacements to send out, why weren't those "replacements" sent to unfilled orders? If all orders had been filled before replacements were sent, I could understand but these have been shipping since OCTOBER 12th! >>



    I sure wouldn't want to wait for 3 months to get replacements. I expect they take the returned sets, replace the obviously defective coins and use those to fulfill orders OR they just reship them and hope the new owners don't complain.
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  • rooksmithrooksmith Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭✭
    Are they "defective" or merely mint "errors"? Maybe we should see re-evaluate the situation ...

    Hmm - Proof does not mean perfect these days.. and First Strike means early submission.
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  • stev32kstev32k Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Are they "defective" or merely mint "errors"? Maybe we should see re-evaluate the situation ...

    Hmm - Proof does not mean perfect these days.. and First Strike means early submission. >>



    To me, the ones I sent back were defective. If they had been "collector" errors- say die cracks, double strikes, broad struck, or die clashes I would have made a bundle of money. However, milk spots and pits made by the mint are generally considered damage as opposed to errors. No one wants damaged coins including me.

    The thing that is troubling me is that I have not seen any other reports of milk spots or pits. Surely I did not receive the only 10 damaged sets out of 250,000 minted. I suspect that a lot of the PR68 grades are due to the spots, but at least two maybe four of mine did not measure up to even a PR68. I'm not overly critical (at least I don't think I am) and there are a lot of experienced collectors and dealers looking at the coins (not to mention PCGS, NGC, et. al.) so am I puzzled as to why I am the only one seeing them?

    The other interesting fact is that the regular proof and the non-proof coins in the sets with the damaged RP proofs looked pretty good. There were no milk spots or pits - some had minor nicks, but overall they looked good.

    Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my hard drive?
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I sure wouldn't want to wait for 3 months to get replacements. I expect they take the returned sets, replace the obviously defective coins and use those to fulfill orders OR they just reship them and hope the new owners don't complain. >>



    Why Not? Those of us that didn't get in on the first wave have to wait 3 months! What makes you, as a mint customer, any different than the rest of us?image

    In my opinion, the US Mint has some very serious customer issues and I sure as h3ll would like the opportunity to take one of their "survey's"!
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • stev32kstev32k Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I sure wouldn't want to wait for 3 months to get replacements. I expect they take the returned sets, replace the obviously defective coins and use those to fulfill orders OR they just reship them and hope the new owners don't complain. >>



    Why Not? Those of us that didn't get in on the first wave have to wait 3 months! What makes you, as a mint customer, any different than the rest of us?image

    In my opinion, the US Mint has some very serious customer issues and I sure as h3ll would like the opportunity to take one of their "survey's"! >>



    I can understand your frustration and I would be feel the same in your position. However, I wish you would start your own thread to complain about the mint's order processing deficiencies.
    Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my hard drive?
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭


    << <i>Here are some shots to show the two reverse proofs that I think would have been body bagged and one of the replacement coins. The spot inside the red circle is a mark I found on each of the ten RPs. At first I thought it was dust on my sensor or lens, but I rotated the coin and the spot stayed in the same place.

    Also notice the diagonal striations on the first two and a kind of "carpet" look on the surface of the replacement coin. I think that must be caused by two different sets of dies.

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    Im glad you posted these pics. I went thru some for a friend last night, advising him what he should keep. Look at the rim at 2 & 10 o'clock, what causes the seeming non uniform rim at these positions? Ive noticed this one alot of the anniversery coins?
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  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    also seems theres alot of milk spots on those, or is that from something else?
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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,247 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why Not? Those of us that didn't get in on the first wave have to wait 3 months! What makes you, as a mint customer, any different than the rest of us? >>



    I'm not saying that I would be any better than the rest of the Mint's customers; only that they should have gotten it right the first time.
    theknowitalltroll;

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