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AP Reports Real Details of Pat Tillman's Death

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""Cease fire, friendlies, I am Pat (expletive) Tillman, damn it!" he shouted, again and again.

The latest inquiry into Tillman's death by friendly fire should end next month; authorities have said they intend to release to the public only a synopsis of their report. But The Associated Press has combed through the results of more than two years of investigations — reviewed thousands of pages of internal Army documents, interviewed dozens of people familiar with the case — and uncovered some startling findings. "

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  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    One soldier had recently undergone eye surgery and his vision was "hazy". Saw this on the news tonight.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If reported correctly, that has to be one of the most sickening things I've ever heard. My sympathies are with the Tillman family; his death was an absolute travesty.


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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I agree it was. i also am saddened almost everyday when i am reading the paper and see the latest honor roll and see 19, 20 and 21 year old kids killed in action.


    Steve

    having lost a child myself i can sympathize with those parents.


    Good for you.
  • I can sympathize with all the parents who lost someone in combat! I would hate to add a "but," but military enlistment does not just mean a college education, whether you believe in what is going on over there or not, they still signed on the dotted line to enlist. I signed the dotted line, never saw combat, but I knew that if I was sent, then I had to go and do what I was told to do! Tillman, although his death is a travesty, did what he wanted to do, believed in what was going on, and died doing what he thought was the right thing to do!

    What sucks about Tillman, is the military tried to make him out as a NFL warrior who died in battle, and therefore came the cover ups. I am sure many American deaths over there were a result of a dumb ass on our side with a weapon. But since Tillman gave up millions of dollars "for the cause," the Army used his death as a way of promotion! Whether he was a former football star, or a regular old Joe Blow from Anytown, USA, as the news of his death came out, he should have been treated as just a "regular" American soldier! If so, the cover up would never have happened. Everybody knows that many soldiers die from "friendly fire," it sucks that it happens, but it does, no matter how much you train, nothing can prepare you for metal whizzing past your head! In the heat of battle, instincts kick in as much as your training does, and accidents do happen!
  • Tillman's death was the result of a poor decision by a superior attempting to stick with the plan in order to save face. While soldiers face danger, safety is still a factor. You cannot win a battle if you take too many casualties or do not have not enough troops.

    The cover up is the crime here and some have faced the penalty. Those higher up have yet to take blame. Many friendly fire incidents are glossed over, not just the high profile cases.

    I spent 6 years as part of my profession making notifications to military families and arranging to bring military members home in emergencies, most of that during the current war. If you have the time check out the Rocky Mountain News website. There's a series about fallen Marines and their families that ran this week. Very touching.

    Guess this is the best chance to thank all those veterans out there. Never served in the military although I am in federal service, but had the honor of helping you and your families in times of trouble.

    My hat goes off to all of you and your families.

    Thank you and Happy Veterans Day.
  • What a waste....why not dust these mountainsides with some napalm before sending the boys in....
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  • << <i>What a waste....why not dust these mountainsides with some napalm before sending the boys in.... >>



    Because the world cannot handle people dying in a vicious way! We are NOT allowed to do onto others as they have done onto us! In today's world, we are not allowed to go seek and destroy, we are to sit and take what they give us, until they run out of steam with their agendas! If it takes 2 or 3 decades and a 50,000 more Americans to die in collapsing towers, then so be it, war is evil, well, only if it is led by the United States!

    Edited to add: by the way, for those who cannot understand sarcasm, this post is sarcasm!
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