Any packs back yet c'mon guys share em with us!

RipublicaninMass

I guess some reps from PSA were walking aorund the card show last weekend looking for crossover material for packs! This is a great thing!

packCollector

no packs yet , mine have been there a month and were sent in the day they announced and received the next business day so it is not because they were backed up.

Griffins

Mine have been in almost 4 months! Steve Hart said he graded mine some time ago, must be backed up in sealing. Same deal when they started the tall boys, took forever.

Treetop

Mine have been in almost 4 months! Steve Hart said he graded mine some time ago, must be backed up in sealing. Same deal when they started the tall boys, took forever.

Ditto for me. Submitted at the National (actually logged September 8th), with the understanding there was no set time frame on when we would have them. Boy, but enough is enough!

packCollector

anthony agreed that it must be an issue on the sealing end. I was thinking that they had to get it worked out in the next few weeks since it would be 30 business days on orders that were sent in after the announcment but just checked and it is an "approximate" service so 30 b-days does not mean much.

this is not the way they should have started off the service. maybe they will have the issues worked out in the next few weeks and everything will be fine but if they did not have the production process worked out , they should not have started accepting submissions imo.

Griffins

sometimes you have to have submissions in to see what the bugs are. They had slabbed packs at the National, so it was working. I"m sure once it gets worked out the packs will come pouring out- the only problem is I know of a lot of people sitting on submissions, not wanting to get backed up. I suspect once those turnaround times get to normal there will be a flood of packs.

Scottsdalecards

I was just checking here to see if anyone got there packs back. Looks like mine (Checked in Sept. 8th also) will be done when they get done. I emailed them on Oct. 26th and they told me late the following week. Well, it is not late the week after the following week. I know these were submitted with no time frame but geeze guys, get some shipped out already.

Other than the 36 packs of 1986-87 fleer basketball Murphy got back I have not seen another pack on the market in a PSA holder.

Brian

Treetop

Grades popped. Looks like I have to undersatnd pack grading a tad better. LOL!


LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 04500998 1972 TOPPS FOOTBALL WAX PACK 2nd SERIES Not Holdered, Altered
1 04500999 1972 TOPPS FOOTBALL WAX PACK 2nd SERIES 7
1 04501000 1972 TOPPS FOOTBALL WAX PACK 2nd SERIES 8
1 04501001 1972 TOPPS FOOTBALL WAX PACK 2nd SERIES 7
1 04501002 1972 TOPPS FOOTBALL WAX PACK 2nd SERIES 8
1 04501003 1972 TOPPS FOOTBALL WAX PACK 2nd SERIES 7

Date Received: 09/08/2006
Date of Grades Posted: 11/09/2006
Date Shipped: No Date Specified

packCollector

thanks treetop, I wonder what altered means? is that resealed? recolored? that is the tricky part sincee they are grading the packs. Personally I think that any pack that is authentic should be holdered with an authentic designation since that is the most important part

mikeschmidt

<< <i>thanks treetop, I wonder what altered means? is that resealed? recolored? that is the tricky part sincee they are grading the packs. Personally I think that any pack that is authentic should be holdered with an authentic designation since that is the most important part >>



Do people really recolor packs?

I really can't endorse the idea of an "authentic pack". A resealed pack is not authentic, other than it is authentic cards and an authentic wrapper - but it is no different than a searched pack with a wrapper on it.

~ms

packCollector

Marc , i never said that a resealed pack is an authentic pack and should be holdered. not sure where that idea came from

You will be surprised how many packs have been recolored. I have seen many 70's packs over the years where the corner was touched up because there was white showing. If you don't look closely , you will never notice but if you examine the corners very closely you will find some. I have seen it on packs bought from national dealers who are highly regarded. if a pack is AUTHENTIC but someone added some red to a corner , it should be holdered as authentic.

Griffins

2 out of 4 of the packs came back no holder available- although there was 4 months ago.
'70 Topps Booklets- PSA 7
'69 Mini Stickers, '67 Pirates Stickers- no holder available.

MorrellMan

Not a single 9 yet - GAI gave out 9s if the pack was still closed.
This may be the final nail in Global's coffin.

Griffins

Mark- I don't think so, PSA still doesn't slab a whole lot of packs, as evidenced by my submission. Pre '57's, oddball sizes, and even standard sized ones.
But once that gets worked out and the pack registry and pop reports gets in place I think there will be a whole different dynamic on packs.

Scottsdalecards

They are tough on the packs! I submitted (6) 1966 Topps 1st series cellos at the National and just got the grades and they shipped today.

1 04500989 1966 TOPPS BASEBALL CELLO PACK 1st SERIES 7
1 04500990 1966 TOPPS BASEBALL CELLO PACK 1st SERIES 7
1 04500991 1966 TOPPS BASEBALL CELLO PACK 1st SERIES 6
1 04500992 1966 TOPPS BASEBALL CELLO PACK 1st SERIES 5
1 04500993 1966 TOPPS BASEBALL CELLO PACK 1st SERIES 7
1 04500994 1966 TOPPS BASEBALL CELLO PACK 1st SERIES 5

I figured I would have got a couple of PSA 8's.

Brian

packCollector

Brian, that's not good!!!! I sent in some perfect packs but now I am afraid at what they are going to grade. looks like I will have to wait to sell the ones I was planning so that the public can see the difference in the grading. right now 7's sell for peanuts in GAI because they give out so many 9 1/2 and 10's. hopefully I will have mine in the next few days but I am not looking forward to it as much based on these grades.

packCollector

just read the grading standards , what is a "wrinkle on the surface of the wax or cellophane? I haven't seen too many perfectly flat wrappers, they have gum under them which inherintly creates a wrinkle. going to be a tough go to get high grades it looks like

HoofHearted

I can't wait to see some scans (hint, hint!) when some of these orders are returned!

Scottsdalecards

Here are a couple of pictures. I just got back my pack submission from PSA a few minutes ago. Great holder that stacks just like regular PSA holders.

Brian
Scottsdalecards.com

packCollector

thanks , Brian , I am impatiently waiting for my results . what is wrong with the packs? why 7's ? why were the others lower?

thanks, Duncan

Webhead1968

I would like to know why that is a 7 also. Are they grading the top and bottom cards as well?

Scottsdalecards

I felt I had 2-3 PSA 8's and a PSA 9. I know 2 of them had small tears in the cello and those are the PSA 5's. I will scan the other 4 pqacks and put them up here in a little while. Off to get lunch!

Brian

Griffins

A big thanks to Brian at Scottsdale for submitting and scanning them.
Here's my first 2 -

Stone193

IMO, Anthony...

Those holders look way nicer than GAI.

Very nice.
mike

Griffins

much nicer and much more solid than GAI's- and what you can't see is they hold the pack on the face and reverse solidly.
I was a bit surprised on the grades on these- thought they might be a bit lower. But I'm sure it will all even out in time.
I've got a few more dozen to submit once the turnaround gets better.

XanaduNow

I've got a question ...

If I remember correctly, PSA takes into account the condition of the visible cards on racks and cellos when grading. Well, since cellos are so rough on corners, is it going to be near impossible to get a 10 on a cello? I'm not too familiar with grading unopened material but I'm glad to see PSA injecting some well-needed integrity and accuracy into that portion of the hobby.

Arthur

Scottsdalecards

Here are scans of the other 4 packs...

goose3

so what are they actually Grading? the plastic wrapper? or in some of the cello's do they take into consideration the visible card(s) as well????

Seems kinda silly IMO to assign a piece of plastic wrapper a grade. Why not just holder it as 1. Authentic 2. Authentic/recolored, etc.

Griffins

they are grading the condition of the package, not necessarily the cards within. That is why it's pack grading, not card grading.

I do agree that the grade is pointless. All I care about is whether the pack is good or resealed- anyone can judge the eye appeal for themselves. But the same could be said for cards, and it's way too late to be arguing that.
Bottom line- competition in grading is good for the collector. PSA went out and got the best person to authenticate packs, and followed it up by designing an excellent holder that will protect the pack, both from outside elements and from internal (gum shifting and causing tears post grading).
All in all a winner in my eyes.

julen23

out of curiousity, what would each of those cello packs sell for graded or ungraded?

ty for sharing also

Julen

HoofHearted

<< <i>A big thanks to Brian at Scottsdale for submitting and scanning them.
Here's my first 2 -

>>



griffins, what are the measurements of these two packs?? Are they the same size as a '75T Mini, which can't be sent in at this time??

Thanks!

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magellan

Hoof, if that's a '69 pack the album in them is the same size as a regular card within a 1/16" or so.

Puck, nice Gretzky, looks like you got hammered on the others.

puckhd27

Great holders, they blow away GAi, but disappointed in the 2 - 6's


Puck

HoofHearted

<< <i>Hoof, if that's a '69 pack the album in them is the same size as a regular card within a 1/16" or so.

Puck, nice Gretzky, looks like you got hammered on the others. >>



I'm not sure I've even seen these products before let alone an unopened pack!

Thanks for the update...

Griffins

I'd never seen those 2 either, nor the 2 packs they rejected because they didn't fit in the holders. A story book pack is up on ebay this week, in a GAI holder.
Not sure of the size, I had them for all of 10 minutes at the National before passing them to Brian for submission.

jmoran19

My grades just popped. I'll post pictures when I get them back. The 1970, 71 and 72 cello packs are the full size ones with the appr. box.

1970 TOPPS BASEBALL CELLO PACK 3rd SERIES 8
1971 TOPPS BASEBALL CELLO PACK 2nd SERIES 7

1972 TOPPS BASEBALL CELLO PACK 1st SER.-YASTRZEMSKI-TOP 5 (must have a corner tear, don't remember)
1973 TOPPS BASEBALL WAX PACK 1st SERIES 7 (was GAI 6.5)
1972 TOPPS BASKETBALL WAX PACK N/A 6
1974 TOPPS BASKETBALL WAX PACK N/A 8 (collect all version)
1974 TOPPS BASKETBALL WAX PACK N/A 7 (scratch off version)
1974 TOPPS FOOTBALL CELLO PACK N/A 7

wheat34

I'm still waiting on my grades. PSA received the packs on 10/10. Anyone receive their grades from an October submission yet??

Harry