OK, It's Getting Out Of Hand. Multiple Postings, etc....
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I was hoping against all hope that this board could be selfpolicing without the necessity of the mods having to constantly monitor. Looks like I'm in marshmallow cloud La La land as usual.
OK,
OTHER than people having multiple for sale threads that should otherwise be combined,
OTHER than a set of rules carved in stone constantly at the top of the page to help and guide
OTHER than one TTT per day
What else would you folks like to see? Keep it on topic and constructive.
A few of my thoughts:
I have no problem with an individual having ONE buy and ONE sell thread running concurrent.
I see no harm a buyer/seller responding to a question within their thread if the person asking said question does not have their PM function activated (though frankly, they should if they want to do business here) even though doing so puts the thread to the top.
Ideas, people, ideas!
OK,
OTHER than people having multiple for sale threads that should otherwise be combined,
OTHER than a set of rules carved in stone constantly at the top of the page to help and guide
OTHER than one TTT per day
What else would you folks like to see? Keep it on topic and constructive.
A few of my thoughts:
I have no problem with an individual having ONE buy and ONE sell thread running concurrent.
I see no harm a buyer/seller responding to a question within their thread if the person asking said question does not have their PM function activated (though frankly, they should if they want to do business here) even though doing so puts the thread to the top.
Ideas, people, ideas!
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Your "PM" comment is an excellent point.....if you want to sell here, enable your PM's.
If you want to discuss stuff or argue here, take it to the coin forum.
Anyone that violates whatever set of rules you deem appropriate......ban them, Period.
<< <i>I was hoping against all hope that this board could be selfpolicing without the necessity of the mods having to constantly monitor. >>
I volunteer to monitor... Give me the red button. If someone breaks the rules, I'll nuke their a$$.
One thread only. FOR SALE/AUCTION AND WTB/TRADE. Is it so difficult to conduct buying AND selling in one thread?
Cheers,
Bob
Sure once in a while, we can mess up.
We just need to decide whether buying or selling is more important on that given day.
I disagree with one point. I think that if a potential buyer asks a question that many others have or might ask, it's OK to answer it publicly in the thread. This will save time and get the info. out to everyone at the same time.
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You could also edit your original post with the updated info instead of publicly responding.
Cheers,
Bob
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Cheers,
Bob
on the Message Title line it should say first : FSH, Ebay, Yahoo. etc...
examples
1. FSH, 1881-s Morgan
2. EBAY, 2006-W AGE
you get the idea.
Thanks
SNMAN
<< <i>Bob,
I disagree with one point. I think that if a potential buyer asks a question that many others have or might ask, it's OK to answer it publicly in the thread. This will save time and get the info. out to everyone at the same time. >>
Ron....hence "EDIT" for the originator.
Would it be possible to make the title a URL?
That way eBay items (or other links) could be identified by the title & blue underlined type.
Shoot, no way to TTT though, well maybe something to think about.
Is there a way to track the offenders? I suspect (& hope) that the majority of offenders are newbies.
But there are those that think they own the boards & can do whatever they please.
What to do with those 'memebrs'?
I still like my method of putting links on my 1 thread to pages on the 'testing' forum were I can make constant changes & still have the thread on the BST up to date.
I can link to a 'For Sale/Trade' page & I can link a 'WTB' page.
Although I aprt of me welcomes the ability create seperate threads (Buy/Sell), the other part wonders if 10 members take up page 1 (viewing 20 threads per page) how others would feel about that.
Only issue I see is creating a title that reflects the changes & keeps others interested in reading the thread again. That is besides having common coins to sell!
Oh, that reminds me, I have a thread to TTT.
On the downside of my link to pages created on the 'testing forum' is that after a few months they get purged so the links no longer work.
FSH - for sale here
Ebay - ebay auction
There are many that list no price and are in effect running auctions here. They need a header for those that want no part of that, perhaps:
Offers or taking offers
Many FS threads are created here & there.
The rules are broken quite a bit there (IMO), so does BJ or yourself now need to moderate that forum too?
Why have that forum also run as a 'FS' forum?
OK guys, flame on!
I wouild like to keep the one thread for Ebay and the one thread for only BST stuff per day. As long as it's cleary memtioned in the title.
One TTT per day is the probablly the one that gets the most abused. Answering every question in the thread when a PM could be used or answering what was clearly a freindly bump are good examples.
Perhaps just using the nuke button when abuse is clear would be good idea? I never see it being done here. I would be be glad to watch over it.
I go along with the majority....at least the ones that agree with me.
Thanks.
RR
What about eBay threads?
I admit that I've done it a few times and people have done it to me but maybe their should be a new rule about that. Just an idea.
This should be a strictly business forum, the U.S. and world coin forum is for that other stuff.
A couple of things:
There's absolutely no way that there will ever be a separate ebay board. What we have here is what we have to work with, period.
Making the title a link is an impossibility. That has to be in the body of the message text.
I agree with the fishing for offers type threads that end up with 15 TTT's. It's your "stuff", you know what you want for it, so put a price on it.
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Enable your PM if you post here, otherwise your thread is deleted
If you answer a question in your thread, you have to wait until the next day to do so, otherwise your thread is deleted for multiple TTTs
First strike your thread disappears.
Second strike you disappear.
And put it in the rules that "PM sent is considered a TTT for any given day, Different PM's sent by different members is OK"
And I think that one thread per member at any time is enough. You can make different paragraphs for different subjects.
Yes a clue to what you want to do in the title is very conducive to positive responses
I see no need for people to have different threads for buying and for selling - one thread and the ability to edit the listings within the thread should suffice.
If you start a thread in order to buy or sell coins you should have your PM enabled. Ditto if you choose to respond to such a thread.
I like the idea of not having others post comments within the thread, though I don't feel strongly on this subject - I once even requested that people not TTT mine.
Any comment/post by the original poster to his/her own thread should count as the daily limit of 1 TTT. If you allow some comments and not others as a TTT, it can easily get out of hand and be unfair to others. Having the PM function enabled makes the comments/public replies unnecessary anyway.
Whatever policies are decided upon should be permanently stuck at the top of the first page.
Thread titles should indicate whether the items are for sale here or elsewhere (Ebay, etc.)
If you list a coin for sale, an asking price should be included.
If you don't have physical possession of the item you are offering for sale, you should make that crystal clear.
All for now.
Box of 20
For example, list in brief bullet form:
1. ttt's one per day
2. Insert ebay in thread title
etc.
That way everyone sees them on the main page and they are not buried in some thread unseen when an issue is raised about the rules.
RR
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If I want to buy on ebay, I can find ebay all by myself.
There'd be a LOT less posts and problems if ebay threads were eliminated.
Put ebay stuff in your sigline with a link.
If I want to buy on ebay, I can find ebay all by myself.
I agree, Goose.
RR
I agree. That would cut down on the traffic.
I don't think you need to eliminate Ebay threads as long as it mentioned in the title line. A lot of people feel more comfortable bidding on an Ebay auction if it's another member here and not somebody they have never dealt with.
<< <i>PM sent is considered a TTT for any given day >>
Deleting ones own thread could be a problem since some would delete and create a new thread with the same stuff, back to the top.
eBay in the title, good idea.
No replies except for PM, gets my vote, and in the 1 ttt a day one could answer or clarify any questions or concerns for all to see.
Set of rules posted on the top of the board, yes.
Jim
I like this idea except for others that ask questions, how do you handle that?
Seller could edit the original thread with the question & answer, or edit the thread to make it clearer without TTT'ing the thread.
Yeah, I like this idea.
Being able to delete your own thread would also clean up the clutter, why do folks reply to their own thread with 'SOLD' or 'All Gone', etc. If need be, just edit the thread & it won't be brought to the top.
Is there a reason that the PM function can't be turn on by default?
Seems like every once in while somebody goes way back and bumps old ones back to the top.
it would cut out friendly bumps and the occasional unnecessary and rude negative comments that then require
a response by the seller to defend themselves.
Definately, every thread title should start with FSH, EBAY, WTB, etc.
Most of these ideas have been mentioned but here goes.
1) 1 new thread per day whether it's a for sale, ebay or want to buy
FSH, Ebay, WTB must be in title and prices should be listed for items that are for sale. Ebay auctions need to have a valid and working link, if you have problems creating a link there's lots of help on how to make a valid link.
2) Thread can not be replied to but it can be edited by the original poster at any time
Editing will not bring it back to the top but any questions and info the original poster wants to add can be added. All communications should be handled by PM and it should be up to the poster to keep their post updated. Once the thread disappears off the front page and after the 1 day rule a new thread can be created.
Just some thoughts on why this would be a good idea.
- Original poster (and anyone that's interested in responding to the thread) would be forced to have their pm enabled.
- If poster doesn't update the thread or provide clear info it's their time that will be wasted will all the pm's and questions they have to answer, not mine. If there isn't a price or information isn't there I won't bother sending a pm and I can quickly move on to the next thread without reading all the comments and replies that are quite often a part of a BST thread.
- Creating a new thread using copy and paste is almost as easy as a TTT and would greatly reduce clutter.
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Not if 1 FS & 1 WTB threads are allowed.
What about those that make alt. id's? TTT can be done by the alt ID.
No easy answer if someone wants to break the rules.
I guess if they didn't want to break the rules we wouldn't be talking about what to do to avoid this situation.
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* A separate Buy thread and Sell thread.
* One TTT per day unless the answer would benefit others
Real simple, isn't it? I hope we don't get gestapo on rules here. I like the above 2.
Now, some have said "a combined Sell/Buy thread should be ok". I disagree. As a BUYER, I don't care what the other person wants to buy. I opened the thread to buy. I don't want to wade through crap (sometimes, I already do).
Also, some sell threads get pretty big/long. Do you like good pictures in the threads? Well, if the seller has more than a handful, you will be scrolling a lot. Better hope they don't have items they want to buy, or you will miss them.
So what about ebay threads? Nothing wrong with them as long as they have a link. Some people "conveniently" forget the links, I think, so that others will be nice and put it in for them...nice little bump that way
I also don't like selling threads here where it is a "let me know your offer, and I may get back to you", but I tend to ignore those sellers then, and later. They end up hurting themselves or being just here to try to dump stuff anyway.
As to why I say it should be ok to respond to your own thread, in under 24 hours, if you are answering something that others would benefit from knowing instead of just editing....it's because too many edits and you don't know what was what if things are commented under it. It is different if you live on the BST and remember every single post, but, once a thread gets 5+ comments in it (let's imagine they are all legit), they will either be ignored or jumbled.
It's pretty easy to see those that are pumping it to enable themselves versus those that are earnest in answering things and just trying to be a good seller.
btw....it's not always the "rule breakers" that get my goat, it's the ones who argue and ask "who made you king" to people letting them know the unwritten guidelines......those people need booted, or at least, timedout.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
We all know where ebay is and how to find coins on there.
there are currently 10 Ebay threads on page1 right now. These people can just as easily put a link in their sigline and let the forum be used by people BUYING SELLING or TRADING. I don't see EBAYING or AUCTIONING in the description of the board.
<< <i>The originator of the thread should be the only person allowed to post to it..........
I agree. That would cut down on the traffic.
I don't think you need to eliminate Ebay threads as long as it mentioned in the title line. A lot of people feel more comfortable bidding on an Ebay auction if it's another member here and not somebody they have never dealt with.
I second, or third this. It's the obvious answer, and if a solution is really being sought, then letting only the thread originator post to it solves most of the problems, and is fair as well.
I already look forward to being able to "shop" in the bst much more efficiently. Sellers won't have to worry about what's been posted to their thread since they last looked, and won't have to respond to anything, except privately through pm.
It's the answer, Boss.
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
<< <i> One post per day to the BST
Not if 1 FS & 1 WTB threads are allowed.
What about those that make alt. id's? TTT can be done by the alt ID.
No easy answer if someone wants to break the rules.
I guess if they didn't want to break the rules we wouldn't be talking about what to do to avoid this situation. >>
One post per day is still the most simple soultion. Alts would be easy to identify. My soultion is simple and fair. You have one post per day; don't squander it.
If nobody has bitten by the 10th TTT, nobody's gonna bite on the 20th.
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