Exclusively collecting Capped Bust Halves in VF to AU, especially rarity 3 and up. Joe G. Great BST purchases completed with commoncents123, p8nt, blu62vette and Stuart. Great coin swaps completed with rah1959, eyoung429 and Zug. Top-notch consignment experience with Russ.
Here's a die marriage that has not been shown before: the 1831 O-117, R4.
The obverse of this very scarce die marriage was struck using Obverse Die 8. This was the first use of this die. The die was used immediately after to strike the O-112.
The reverse of this die marriage was struck using Reverse Die L-s2. This was the second and last use of this die. The die was used just prior to strike the O-116 (as Rev. Die L). Reverse Die L-s2 is the same as Reverse Die L except the legend and milling is weaker. Often just a trace of milling remains.
Quick identifiers for this die marriage are:
(1) On the obverse the 1's are tall and slender with full serifs. The 8 is higher than the 2.
(2) There are die lines in RTY of LIBERTY slanting downwards from the top center of the R to the bottom of the Y.
(3) There is a doubling of the lower right curl edge next to star 13. This is true of ALL O-117's and O-112's.
(4) On the reverse the M of AMERICA is rotated with the left serif above the right serif of the A and the right serif below the left serif of the E.
(5) Also on the reverse TATE of STATES is rotated clockwise and appear to be progressively higher at the bottom of each letter.
Welcome to our CU Capped Bust Half Dollar series. I think your coin is O-116 R3. This marriage has been shown earlier, so you may want to compare yours to the earlier one.
I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
What is going on with those surfaces on your 1831, O-110 (that Mozin ID'd). Reason is I have seen several cast pieces that resemble this piece and those raised bumps in the field look way too obvious. Also the cracks in the metal across Miss Liberty's nose are suspicious. With cast pieces this is usually caused by the German type silver metal shrinking in the mold. First , check the edge of your coin for a seam in the edge lettering. Second weigh it. If it's a cast "bogo" it will come up light.
n April the following coin was posted on the wrong thread in error.
Per Mozin's request I am moving the coin to this thread.
Here's another missing die marriage: the 1831 O-105, R3.
The obverse of this die marriage was struck using Obverse Die 3. This was the first of two uses of the die. The die was later used to strike the common O-104 die marriage.
The reverse of this die marriage was struck using Reverse Die E. This was the second of two uses of the die. The die was used just prior to strike the scarce 1831 O-106, R3 die marriage.
The quick identifiers of this die marriage are:
(1) There are two distinct horizontal die defect line below the bust. The top line touches the drapery. (2) The first 1 is sharply higher than the 8 (3) Almost all of the lines in the stripes extend up past the lower three crossbars in the shield. The most noticeable are the lines of the first two stripes.
Without having reviewed the entire thread, I'm guessing no one has posted a pic of O.120 "a" and knows the real reason this DM is so rare. It ain't the hump!
I will bite. Always thought the reverse die for 1831 O-120 warped and broke from previously being used in both 1830 O-109 and 1831 O-107. So, what is the real reason O-120 is so rare?
I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
O.111, R1. 1831...an unremarkable year notable mostly for changes to edge lettering. Some varieties (O.106, O.107) show doubling to LIBERTY.
While this example is not either of those marriages it appears to show the same. Collectors are divided over whether this is true hub doubling or the more common portrait doubling.
This example looks to have spent many years in an album acquiring deeply colored rim toning. Unspoiled, undipped, original good looks with very clean fields. A wavy die crack joins the numerals at the base of the date and stripe one lines in shield merge and appear as two lines, not three.
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Joe G.
Great BST purchases completed with commoncents123, p8nt, blu62vette and Stuart. Great coin swaps completed with rah1959, eyoung429 and Zug. Top-notch consignment experience with Russ.
Looks like O-110 R2.
The obverse of this very scarce die marriage was struck using Obverse Die 8. This was the first use of this die. The die was used immediately after to strike the O-112.
The reverse of this die marriage was struck using Reverse Die L-s2. This was the second and last use of this die. The die was used just prior to strike the O-116 (as Rev. Die L). Reverse Die L-s2 is the same as Reverse Die L except the legend and milling is weaker. Often just a trace of milling remains.
Quick identifiers for this die marriage are:
(1) On the obverse the 1's are tall and slender with full serifs. The 8 is higher than the 2.
(2) There are die lines in RTY of LIBERTY slanting downwards from the top center of the R to the bottom of the Y.
(3) There is a doubling of the lower right curl edge next to star 13. This is true of ALL O-117's and O-112's.
(4) On the reverse the M of AMERICA is rotated with the left serif above the right serif of the A and the right serif below the left serif of the E.
(5) Also on the reverse TATE of STATES is rotated clockwise and appear to be progressively higher at the bottom of each letter.
Photos of my 1831 O-117a, R4:
-David
Welcome to our CU Capped Bust Half Dollar series. I think your coin is O-116 R3. This marriage has been shown earlier, so you may want to compare yours to the earlier one.
What is going on with those surfaces on your 1831, O-110 (that Mozin ID'd). Reason is I have seen several cast pieces that resemble this piece and those raised bumps in the field look way too obvious. Also the cracks in the metal across Miss Liberty's nose are suspicious. With cast pieces this is usually caused by the German type silver metal shrinking in the mold. First , check the edge of your coin for a seam in the edge lettering. Second weigh it. If it's a cast "bogo" it will come up light.
Edgar
Edgar
Per Mozin's request I am moving the coin to this thread.
Here's another missing die marriage: the 1831 O-105, R3.
The obverse of this die marriage was struck using Obverse Die 3. This was the first of two uses of the die. The die was later used to strike the common O-104 die marriage.
The reverse of this die marriage was struck using Reverse Die E. This was the second of two uses of the die. The die was used just prior to strike the scarce 1831 O-106, R3 die marriage.
The quick identifiers of this die marriage are:
(1) There are two distinct horizontal die defect line below the bust. The top line touches the drapery.
(2) The first 1 is sharply higher than the 8
(3) Almost all of the lines in the stripes extend up past the lower three crossbars in the shield. The most noticeable are the lines of the first two stripes.
Photos of my 1831 O-105, R3:
I will bite. Always thought the reverse die for 1831 O-120 warped and broke from previously being used in both 1830 O-109 and 1831 O-107. So, what is the real reason O-120 is so rare?
1831 Capped Bust Half Dollar
Stuart
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While this example is not either of those marriages it appears to show the same. Collectors are divided over whether this is true hub doubling or the more common portrait doubling.
This example looks to have spent many years in an album acquiring deeply colored rim toning. Unspoiled, undipped, original good looks with very clean fields. A wavy die crack joins the numerals at the base of the date and stripe one lines in shield merge and appear as two lines, not three.
1831 Capped Bust Half (O-102)
Stuart
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BHNC member # 184!
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BHNC member # 184!
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