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Most inept franchise over the last 25 years in the NFL?

Detroit Lions?

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  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Saints up there too
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cardinals need some votes

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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    Detroit would have to be at the top of a very short list. Bucs were terribly ran under the Culverhouse ownership. Same with the Bengals prior to Marvin Lewis coming in.

    Cardinals would garner some votes, but detroit I'd have to give the vote to.
  • HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭
    C A R D I N A L S
  • Detroit
    Arizona
    Cleveland(for a long time post 80's run)
    Collecting;
    Mark Mulder rookies
    Chipper Jones rookies
    Orlando Cabrera rookies
    Lawrence Taylor
    Sam Huff
    Lavar Arrington
    NY Giants
    NY Yankees
    NJ Nets
    NJ Devils
    1950s-1960s Topps NY Giants Team cards

    Looking for Topps rookies as well.

    References:
    GregM13
    VintageJeff
  • Don't forget the Jets image
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭
    Lions are at or near the top of the list, but don't forget they made the playoffs multiple times (and even the NFC title game in '91) under the command of the Big Buck. I give the Cardinals my vote, since they have really, really sucked every year but one going back to when they were in Chicago (actually I don't know that for sure, but I don't think they ever made the playoffs in Chicago or St. Louis). Also, at least the Lions had Barry, whereas the Cardinals have never had anyone-- except Neil Lomax image

    Jets are an interesting choice as well, although it seems like they, like the Lions, have had some decent seasons mixed in. I remember an AFC championship game in Denver, for example, with Vinny at the helm... And at least the Saints had that awesome defense in the early '90s w/ Swilling, Turnbull, Jackson and Mills.
  • yawie99yawie99 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
    Guess it's my hometown bias, but I gotta go with the Cardinals. The Lions are certainly up there but, as others have noted, they at least won a few playoff games and did have a genuine superstar in Sanders.

    It sucked to be without an NFL team when Bidwell moved them to Phoenix, but I vaguely remember a Post-Dispatch poll in late '87 or early '88 in which St. Louis sports fans rated the loss of Cardinals first baseman Jack Clark to free agency a bigger blow to the city than the loss of the Big Red. That might say more about the level of baseball fanaticism here, but it certainly spoke to the level of scorn for Bill Bidwell and his bumbling football franchise.
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  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>Guess it's my hometown bias, but I gotta go with the Cardinals. The Lions are certainly up there but, as others have noted, they at least won a few playoff games and did have a genuine superstar in Sanders.

    It sucked to be without an NFL team when Bidwell moved them to Phoenix, but I vaguely remember a Post-Dispatch poll in late '87 or early '88 in which St. Louis sports fans rated the loss of Cardinals first baseman Jack Clark to free agency a bigger blow to the city than the loss of the Big Red. That might say more about the level of baseball fanaticism here, but it certainly spoke to the level of scorn for Bill Bidwell and his bumbling football franchise. >>



    Correction-- the Lions have won one playoff game since Ford bought the team in '62, and that was a 38-6 romp over the Cowboys in '91.

    I remember when I lived in St. Louis as a kid, and both myself and all my buddies had an 'adopted' team. You couldn't get behind the Cardinals. You just couldn't. You could be a Steelers fan, a Cowboys fan, a Raiders fan--- but nobody pulled for the Cards. It just wasn't an option. And those of you who grew up with successful NFL teams may find this hard to believe, but the baseball Cards, the Blues AND the Steamers (the indoor soccer team) were far more popular in the early '80's in St Louis then the football team.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,029 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Oh sorry, I thought it said the most hated franchise.
  • Saints.
    John Vineyard

  • Most definitely the Lions! The teams of the early to mid-90s had potential, but they always found a way to blow a game late, or just show up in uniform but not show up to play. With the exception of Sanders and Moore! They also had some big name players as compared to teams like the Saints and the Cardinals. But from what I see, all the losing from the past few decades, rests solely on the shoulders of Joey Harrington. Only one game to look forward to this season, it is Thanksgiving!
  • detroitfan2detroitfan2 Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭✭
    All I know is this: A few years back, the Detroit Tigers went 43-119, for a winning percentage of .265. You haven't experienced suckiness until you sit through a 119 loss baseball season. It would literally seem like weeks between victories. It's hard to explain what it felt like.

    Now consider the Detroit Lions. Their record from the past 5 years plus this season is 22-65, for a winning percentage of .253, and honestly it will be worse when the 2006 season is done. To really put this accomplishment in perspective, that's the equivalent of 6 straight 121 loss baseball seasons. You almost have to try to be this bad, you really do.

    So they're certainly the worst franchise in any sport over the last 6 years, but what about the last 25? Tough one to call. I have a lot of great memories of the era that began with Billy Sims and ended when Barry Sanders retired. Lots of classic Monday Night Football matchups, plus the playoff victory. Heck, even the playoff losses seem like fun compared to what we witness now.

    I think it's a toss up between the Lions, Saints, and Cardinals.
  • Hands down the cardinals
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