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Struck thu (Clashed) 1913 Type 1 Buffalo

OneyOney Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭✭
Working with this new lens make many things look more obvious. This is a PCGS MS65 1913 Type I Buffalo. The red arrows indicate the areas that are struck thru the coin. Has anyone seen this before? Are there varieties for Buffalo nickels?

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Brian

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    LeianaLeiana Posts: 4,349
    I think those are clash marks.

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    OneyOney Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks Amanda.....
    Brian
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    neat clashing
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    LeianaLeiana Posts: 4,349
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    Here is an image MrSpud made of this buffalo which exhibits similar clashing to yours.

    Clashes are super cool. image

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    Here's an example of a struck thru error.

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    LeianaLeiana Posts: 4,349
    That's very interesting looking!

    What is it struck through?

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    I would say most likely "Grease".
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    LeianaLeiana Posts: 4,349


    << <i>I would say most likely "Grease". >>



    That would make sense. image

    It might be the angle of photography, but it looks really deep.

    Super cool! Thanks for sharing. image

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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,761 ✭✭✭✭

    Oney,

    What you see are clash marks pure and simple. The anomoly in front of the Indian's nose is due to clash from the Buffalo's rear leg. The anomoly in E PLURIBUS UNUM is clash from the Indian's neck/chin. In fact the E PLURIBUS UNUM area looks like doubled clash which is known to occur on Type 1's.

    The area under the Indian's chin is not what I'd normally expect to see. Typically, one would expect to see "chin whiskers" which commonly occurs from E PLURIBUS UNUM clashing with the chin. However, this doesn't look the same. Perhaps this is just die damage which happens from time to time.

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    << <i>The area under the Indian's chin is not what I'd normally expect to see. Typically, one would expect to see "chin whiskers" which commonly occurs from E PLURIBUS UNUM clashing with the chin. However, this doesn't look the same. Perhaps this is just die damage which happens from time to time >>



    I think what you are seeing under the chin is the area of the Buffalo's back where it meets the field and under that is most likely fragments of the lettering in-between the field. I guess what i'm trying to say is that whatever is highest on the die is going to be what clashes first and with most of the force you would think. So actually what you see above the nose is not the rear leg , but between the legs
    because that is what is highest on the die.
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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,761 ✭✭✭✭

    Intocoins - I completely agree with you.



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    I was just about to comment on the odd appearance of the marks under the chin. Normally you can decipher some of the letters of EPU, but this looks different on your coin. There are tons of varieties for buffalo nickels- some command a premium and others are just interesting. Clashed dies fall into the interesting category.
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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess you could say it's the outline of the leg.

    Chris is right-it's a double clash with die rotation between the clashes.
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    RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    Clashed dies ("blanked dies" as the mint called them) are not unusual after 1910 and particularly on the Buffalo nickel series from 1913-1915 where the dies deteriorated quickly.

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