Printed answer from PCGS as of 10-26-06 on ASE/AGE 1st Strike submissions.......

2manycoins2fewfunds · October 29, 2006 5:12AM

first strike/ 20th anniversary
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:28:48 -0700
From: "Carolyn Castillo" <CCastillo@collectors.com>
To: wrbmdusa@yahoo.com
Hello,

In order to receive the First Strike designation, you need to submit your coins in the unopened shipping box from the US Mint (postmarked by the cutoff date) or have them at our facilities within 30 days after they were released by the mint. The Cutoffs for First Strike/20th Anniversary are as follows:

3-coin Gold sets: 10/24

2-coin Unc-W sets: 10/24

3-coin Silver sets: 11/11

The First Strike coins need to go on their own submission form and should contain the following notation on the form: Attention: Bulk. There is an additional $10 fee (per coin) for each of the First Strike/20th Anniversary inserts. You may use the space for the additional services fee, under the heading “D. Fee Calculation” on the submission form (see example below), to indicate these charges in your total. You may submit these coins through any corresponding service level based on the declared value of the coin(s) or your desired turnaround time. In addition, you have the option of having the mint packaging returned to you for an additional $2 shipping and handling fee per box. Please note that while your paperwork from the mint will stay with your order, your mint packaging will be separated from your order and you will be receiving a box that is not necessarily the one you submitted.

Example 1.

D. FEE CALCULATION:

10
X
$ 30
= $ 300

# of coins

service level fee

10
X
$ 10
= $ 100

# of coins

additional services fee

The reverse proof coins also qualify for the “Unusual Finishes” quarterly special, which is free of charge for one coin if you are a current collector’s club member. Please visit the following link for all the coins that qualify for this special: http://www.pcgs.com/pcgs_cc_special.chtml.

You will need to fill out a separate submission form to submit this coin for the quarterly special and include both forms when submitting the unopened shipping boxes from the mint. You are responsible for the return shipping fees and the fees for the first strike / 20th anniversary flip, if you would like that designation as well. You will need to mark the box next to the word “other” and write “Quarterly Special” below it. The fee calculation would be 1 times 0 equals $0 (see example 2 below) and 1 times 10 equals $10 for the first strike designation.

(Fee Calculation for Quarterly Special)

Example 2. D. FEE CALCULATION:

1
X
$ 0
= $ 0

# of coins

service level fee

1
X
$ 10
= $ 10

# of coins

additional services fee

The PCGS coin numbers are as follows:

904023 2006-W Eagle 20th Anniversary Set $1

904024 2006-W Eagle 20th Anniversary Set $1, First Strike

904021 2006-W Eagle 20th Anniversary Set $50

904022 2006-W Eagle 20th Anniversary Set $50, First Strike

89990 2006-W Eagle 20th Anniversary $1 MS

89991 2006-W Eagle 20th Anniversary $1 MS, First Strike

799977 2006-W Eagle 20th Anniversary $1 Reverse Proof

899977 2006-W Eagle 20th Anniversary $1 Reverse Proof, First Strike

89996 2006-W Eagle 20th Anniversary $1 PR DC, First Strike

89992 2006-W Eagle 20th Anniversary $50 MS

89993 2006-W Eagle 20th Anniversary $50 MS, First Strike

89994 2006-W Eagle 20th Anniversary $50 Reverse Proof

89995 2006-W Eagle 20th Anniversary $50 Reverse Proof, First Strike

89997 2006-W Eagle 20th Anniversary $50 PR DC, First Strike

Please contact Customer Support if you require any further assistance.

Thank You,

Carolyn Castillo

Customer Service

PCGS (800) 447-8848

Kaelasdad · October 29, 2006 5:17AM

Finally a concise answer with virtually all the information required. Nice job carolyn

Bochiman · October 29, 2006 5:30AM

Agree, Good post!

JimDepot · October 29, 2006 5:44AM

never mind.

CC2GO · October 29, 2006 5:45AM

NOW I GET IT! The simplest plain english info yet!

WheatFanatic · October 29, 2006 6:25AM

That's what I thought but there seems to be different info being told around the forum. It's nice to get a straight and precise answer!

TWQG · October 29, 2006 6:25AM

<< 3-coin Gold sets: 10/24 >>

-So sealed sets postmarked prior to this can be submitted at any time for all the designations?

WheatFanatic · October 29, 2006 6:36AM

So sealed sets postmarked prior to this can be submitted at any time for all the designations?

As it was explained to me by PCGS Customer Service, if you sent the sealed box BY the 24th you're ok. What confuses everyone is whether PCGS is talking about the postmark on the package WE ship to PCGS with the sealed box or the postmark directly from the Mint when they originally sent them to us.

According to PCGS it's the postmark on the package WE ship to PCGS and postmarked by the 24th.

WF

fountainheadgold · October 29, 2006 9:15AM

KeithinMD · October 29, 2006 9:25AM

This is too confusing. If we have a 3 piece gold set, post marked from the mint prior to Oct. 24th, we still can get 1st strike submission? Each thread and opinion is different.

thompson77 · October 29, 2006 9:33AM

Have all the gold sets now been shipped?thanks,scott.

pf70collector · October 29, 2006 9:36PM

There is another shipment for gold AGE 3 piece sets due on 11-6

aficionado · October 30, 2006 1:25AM

This is just stupid.

The policy appears to be: Everytime a coin gets a new/different package, it will get a First Strike designation. Examples here are the Regular Proof and the Unc. "W".

Summarize:

Regular Proof Silver and Gold - First Strikes are from the Single Proofs released in January AND the 3 piece set released in October.

Unc. "W" Silver and Gold - First Strikes are from the 2 coin set released on Sept. 24 AND the 3 piece set released in October AND (maybe) the singles which will be released in November.

First Strike is lame already, but this just makes it a total joke.

ABC123 · October 30, 2006 1:28AM

What don't you understand ?

wondercoin · October 30, 2006 1:42AM

IMHO, I believe there may be three (3) corrections / amplifications to that email from Carolyn (who no longer works at PCGS I believe):

3-coin Gold sets: 10/24 - actual deadline is 10/25/06

2-coin Unc-W sets: 10/24 - actual deadline is 10/25/06

3-coin Silver sets: 11/11 - actual deadline for the MS Silver coin is 10/25/06 from the 3 pc. set. So, all sealed boxes dated 10/26/06 - 11/11/06 will receive 2/3 coins in First Strike (i.e. the Proof coins only).

I hope this helps.

Wondercoin

CC2GO · October 30, 2006 1:47AM

AARRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!! (pulling hair out)
Just when I thought I understood it all.

SoundPoint · October 30, 2006 1:58AM

<< IMHO, I believe there may be three (3) corrections / amplifications to that email from Carolyn (who no longer works at PCGS I believe):
Wondercoin >>

Why wouldn't Carolyn still work there. Her email was sent on the 29th.
IMHO, between her email and the info from CSR reps, hers was the most responsive!

SoundPoint

CC2GO · October 30, 2006 2:17AM

According to PCGS it's the postmark on the package WE ship to PCGS and postmarked by the 24th
(or 11th or whatever the cutoff date is for your series.).

THIS IS CORRECT! Just spoke to PCGS CS.

VamGuy · October 30, 2006 2:53AM

You forgot to mention that the hoop that you need to jump through, while holding your right pinky finger in your left ear, must be no wider than 36" in diameter, and absolutely must be blue.

Bochiman · October 30, 2006 3:56AM

<< .....

3-coin Silver sets: 11/11 - actual deadline for the MS Silver coin is 10/25/06 from the 3 pc. set. So, all sealed boxes dated 10/26/06 - 11/11/06 will receive 2/3 coins in First Strike (i.e. the Proof coins only).

I hope this helps.

Wondercoin >>

And, why would this be? Proof SAEs have been out for months. So, it isn't because the MS coin has been out for just over a month. If so, then only 1/3 should get the designation (ie.....Reverse Proof).

Sounds like the left hand of PCGS not knowing what the right hand is doing.

There SHOULD NOT be this much confusion! And, it really shouldn't be that difficult (but it is).

holeinone1972 · October 30, 2006 4:44AM

<< AARRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!! (pulling hair out)
Just when I thought I understood it all.

>>

<< Not sure. BUT if your unopened box is postmarked before 10/24/06 from the US mint you can have it sent in for first strike indefinately. It is NOT when you send it, but as long as the original postmark is prior to 10/24/06

Rob >>

THIS IS CORRECT

Carol

Carol is the site adminstrator........... she knows how this works...not let it go.....breathe..............

WheatFanatic · October 30, 2006 5:01AM

<< Not sure. BUT if your unopened box is postmarked before 10/24/06 from the US mint you can have it sent in for first strike indefinately. It is NOT when you send it, but as long as the original postmark is prior to 10/24/06

PCGS Customer Service is consistently telling people that the above is not true. PCGS must receive a box that is postmarked by the 24th, and the mint postmark does not count.

holeinone1972 · October 30, 2006 5:10AM

Here is the email and response I just got from PCGS:

Hi Laura,

I am soooo sorry about emailing you again, There is soooo much bad info about submitting the gold and silver anniversary sets out there, I just want to be sure before I pack mine up.

I understand completely about how to use my free submission voucher.

I need to know that I can still send in my last GOLD 3 pce set postmarked from the mint 10/12/06 for 1st strike and 20th anniversary set designations?

There is so much hype and bad info on the pcgs forums, that I am starting to doubt this myself From my understanding as long as my mint sealed package was shipped to me bfore 10/24/06 it will always be good for 1st strike designation.

Please clarify, so I can get my coins out for grading.

Thanks so much Robert

RESPONSE:

You are correct… because your box is still sealed and unopened as they were shipped by the mint, and the shipment date on their fulfillment center label is before 10/24, your coins still qualify for both the First Strike and 20th Anniversary designations.

I hope this clarifies this for you. Let me know if you need anything else.

-Laura

WheatFanatic · October 30, 2006 5:29AM

holeinone1972, thanks for that post! Customer Service is telling people all kinds of wacky info I guess.

19Lyds · October 30, 2006 5:35AM

<< According to PCGS it's the postmark on the package WE ship to PCGS and postmarked by the 24th
(or 11th or whatever the cutoff date is for your series.).

THIS IS CORRECT! Just spoke to PCGS CS. >>

Already SPLAINED before I could hit enter! !

Cause First Strike was implemented in 2005.

Its the post mark on the package received from the US Mint. And if the postmark does not show, it is the dated packing slip within the package.

Printed answer from PCGS as of 10-26-06 on ASE/AGE 1st Strike submissions.......

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