Abbreviatins/Acronyms/Slang used in CU Forum...What do they all mean? !!HELP!! Fill in the blanks.

WoodenJefferson · October 26, 2006 3:58AM

We take a lot of these abbreviatons for granted when posting, but it is very possible that there may be members who don't know all of them, I know I don't, so can we bring those up to speed so your comments are fully understood? Some of the answers may appear to you as, "What are you stupid or something?" This is a learning experience for some, just common talk for others. Share your knowledge. Be brief and by all means, add to the list.

Disclaimers: sorry if there are any duplicates or if they don't mean a thing, I just perused a bunch of threads and copied abbreviations.

I did a few to get started..."Now class...pay attention"

JMO- just my opinion
TGP- Third Party Graders
JMHO- just my (humble) opinion
POS- Piece of $hit
Micro O- super small new orleans mint mark
ED
1909 VDB MPL-Victor David Brenner cent design, matte proof like ?
IMO- in my opinion
Flyer- Flying Eagle Cent, 1856/57/58
1883 N/C- No Cent on nickel
AT- artificially toned
NT- naturally toned
Dipped- cleaned with a chemical solution
PQ- premium quality/Proof Quality, which is it or both?
Roosies- Roosevelt Dimes,(particularly 90% silver 1946-1964)
Frankies- Franklin half dollars,1948-1963
YN-young numismatists
T1-type one, for Buffalo nickel (original design, 1913 only) for Jefferson nickels T1 steps (steps not braked with verticle lines) are there others?
T2-type 2, for Buffalo nickel (small changes to the reverse starting mid-way through 1913 until 1938) for Jefferson nickels (steps have verticle lines bracketing steps) are there others?
BST- buy, sell, trade, BST Forum
OT- Off Topic
PM- private messege
TPN-
David Hall- God Jr.,Coin Person with Hawaiin shirt
Ron Guth- God, Coin Person with Crown
TTT- to the top
GAE- gold american eagle
SAE- silver american eagle
OTOH- on the other hand
GSA CC- Government Services Administration, Carson City mint
First Strike™- flavor of the month
CUFYNA- collectors universe fyna
Registry sets-
WTC Coins- World Trade Center coins ( coins minted from silver recovered from the site)
NPB- non paying bidder, used in e-bay
white elephant-
CBH- Capped Bust Half
FB-Feed Back, e-bay term for seller/buyer comments
FB- Dimes, Full Bands
OP-Original Poster
skin- originality of a coin as it pertains to strike, luster and look
ezest- cleaner
acetone- industrial chemical ( can be used for thinner, lacquers or oil base paints)
ms 70- cleaner, Namebrand for coin cleaner
pop- population, as it pertains to registered coins that are slabbed
FT- full torch (used to designate a full strike on Roosies)
plat- platinum
pallad- palladium
macro- photography term usually associated with a type of lense setting for close-ups
* designation- Used to signify PQness by NGC
PC holder-
matte finish- also thought of as SATIN.
milk spots- milky white spots that mysteriously appear on silver eagles
SLQ- Standing Liberty Quarter
Modern Crap-
WANNABE-
NARU - Not A Registered User (an eBay username that has beened banned from further using eBay as a result of disobeying rules).
FOAD- *expletive* off and die
EDS - Early Die State
MDS- Middle Die State
LDS - Late Die State
EMDS-Early Middle Die State
FBL - Full Bell Lines
ED - Early Date?
FUBAR- *expletive* up beyond all recognition
TGS-Third-party Grading Service (also known as TPGS)
VEDS- Very Early Die States
VLDS- Very Late Die State
V- Very
PITA- pain in the a$$
KMA- kiss my a$$
WB- Wiley Bugert classification of varieties for Liberty Seated Half Dollars
KoolAid Pitcher™-
DIAF- die in a fire

I will compile the terms when we seem to be finished...if that ever happens

MadMarty · October 26, 2006 4:03AM

Modern Crap
WANNABE

Cladiator · October 26, 2006 4:04AM

<< We take a lot of these abbreviatons for granted when posting, but it is very possible that there may be members who don't know all of them, I know I don't, so can we bring those up to speed so your comments are fully understood? Some of the answers may appear to you as, "What are you stupid or something?" This is a learning experience for some, just common talk for others. Share your knowledge. Be brief and by all means, add to the list.

Disclaimers: sorry if there are any duplicates or if they don't mean a thing, I just perused a bunch of threads and copied abbreviations.

I did a few to get started..."Now class...pay attention"

JMO- just my opinion
TGP- third party grader
JMHO- just my humble (honest) opinion
POS- piece of $hit
Micro O- super small new orleans mint mark
ED
1909 VDB MPL- Victor David Brenner MPL?
IMO- in my opinion
Flyer- Flying Eagle Cent
1883 N/C- no cents
AT- atrificially toned
NT- natually toned
Dipped- cleaned with a chemical solution
PQ- premium quality
Roosies- Rosevelt dimes
Frankies- Franklin half dollars
TGS-
YN- young numismatists
T1- type one
T2- type two
BST- buy, sell, trade
OT- off topic
PM- private messege
TPN-
David Hall- God Jr.
Ron Guth- God
TTT- to the top
GAE- gold american eagle
SAE- silver american eagle
OTOH- on the other hand
GSA CC- GS agency carson city
First Strike™- flavor of the month
CUFYNA- collectors universe fyna
Registry sets-
WTC Coins- world trade center
NPB- non paying bidder
white elephant-
CBH- capped bust half
FB-Feed Back, e-bay term for seller/buyer comments
FB- Dimes, Full Bands
OP-Original Poster
skin- surfaces of a coin
ezest- cleaner
acetone- gunk remover
ms 70- cleaner
pop- population
FT- full torch
plat- platinum
pallad- palladium
macro- close up mode on a camera
WB-
* designation- Used to signify PQness by NGC
PC holder-
matte finish- special finish on some coins
milk spots- milky white spots that mysteriously appear on silver eagles
SLQ- standing liberty quarter >>

WoodenJefferson · October 26, 2006 4:06AM

Cladiator...advance to the top of the class...dang, that was quick, you always that fast?

I did not even get the chance to get the stop watch out of my pocket!

Cladiator · October 26, 2006 4:07AM

<< Cladiator...advance to the top of the class...dang, that was quick, you always that fast? >>

Depends on who you're askin'

Barndog · October 26, 2006 4:08AM

<< Cladiator...advance to the top of the class...dang, that was quick, you always that fast? >>

I met his fiancee, she says faster.

I met his boss, he says slower.

Cladiator · October 26, 2006 4:09AM

<< 

<< Cladiator...advance to the top of the class...dang, that was quick, you always that fast? >>

I met his fiancee, she says faster.

I met his boss, he says slower. >>

jdsinva · October 26, 2006 4:17AM

white elephant (in the context of numismtics) - would that be a coin that an owner paid more than it was worth to acquire and now can never get rid of it except at a steep loss?

TwoSides2aCoin · October 26, 2006 4:19AM

<< We take a lot of these abbreviatons for granted when posting, but it is very possible that there may be members who don't know all of them, I know I don't, so can we bring those up to speed so your comments are fully understood? Some of the answers may appear to you as, "What are you stupid or something?" This is a learning experience for some, just common talk for others. Share your knowledge. Be brief and by all means, add to the list.

Disclaimers: sorry if there are any duplicates or if they don't mean a thing, I just perused a bunch of threads and copied abbreviations.

I did a few to get started..."Now class...pay attention"

JMO- just my opinion
TGP- TPG (third party grader) TGP is from the open forum, it meant (Two Girls, Please)
JMHO- just my honest/humble opinion
POS- Piece of chit with an S
Micro O- Smaller mintmark than the regular O
ED - Medical Term for the open forum. See TGP
1909 VDB MPL- date of lincoln cent, designer's initials and (matte proof like ? )
IMO- In my opinion
Flyer- Small cents minted from 1856-1858 (1857 was the year the law was made, 1856 is a pattern)
1883 N/C- ?
AT- Artificial Toning
NT- Natural Toning
Dipped- Part of Stick ( a person who dips is a dipstick)
PQ- Proof Quality
Roosies- Roosevelt dimes (particularly 90% silver 1946-1964)
Frankies- Franklinl Half dollars 1948-1963
TGS- ?
YN- young numismatist
T1-
T2-
BST- buy, sell, trade
OT- Off topic
PM- private message
TPN- ?
David Hall- Coin Person with Hawaiin shirt
Ron Guth-Coin Person with Crown
TTT- to the top
GAE- AGE or American Gold EAGLE (usually referring to bullion not proof specimens but...)
SAE- Silver American Eagle ( same as this, proof or bullion)
OTOH- on the other hand
GSA CC- Government Services Administration/ Carson City mint
First Strike™- KoolAid Pitcher™
CUFYNA- coin universe ????
Registry sets- People in a race with coins
WTC Coins- World Trade Center coins ( coins recovered from the site)
NPB-?
white elephant- ?
CBH- ?
FB-Feed Back, e-bay term for seller/buyer comments
FB- Dimes, Full Bands
OP-Original Poster
skin- originality of a coin as it pertains to strike, luster and look
ezest- ?
acetone- industrial chemical ( can be used for thinner, lacquers or oil base paints) not for coins
ms 70-

not for coins, either
pop- population as it pertains to registered coins that are slabbed. See registry sets.
FT- ?
plat- platinum
pallad- palladium
macro- photography term usually associated with a type of lense setting for close-ups
WB- ? White balance, I suppose... photography
* designation- The attributes of a coin that differentiate it from another of the same year or type.
PC holder- ?
matte finish- also thought of as SATIN. Cameo is to shiney what matte is to satin look.
milk spots- spots that kick the eye appeal out of silver usually on proofs or bullion. little white chalky looking spots on the silver.
SLQ- >>

Standing Liberty quarter

TwoSides2aCoin · October 26, 2006 4:20AM

you guys are fast

WoodenJefferson · October 26, 2006 4:20AM

~White Elephant~ Fred Wienberg used that term to describe an error, mechanical/mint or both. I was hoping there would be a specific expanation.

Jcarney · October 26, 2006 4:24AM

I believe "White Elephant" is used to describe a mint error which is also a key date coin, such as an off-center 1909 S VDB or something like that. The thinking goes that a date/MM or type collector would want a non-error example in their collection and an error collector would hesitate paying the big bucks necessary for a key date example of an otherwise common error.

jdsinva · October 26, 2006 4:24AM

<< ~White Elephant~ Fred Wienberg used that term to describe an error, mechanical/mint or both. I was hoping there would be a specific expanation. >>

Yes, I would like to hear an explanation of this term too, I don't think I've heard it applied to numismatics. . .

Cool thread!

Bruceswar · October 26, 2006 4:24AM

lets not forget

EDS - Early Die State
LDS - Late Die State
FBL - Full Bell Lines
ED - Early Date?

Jcarney · October 26, 2006 4:26AM

How 'bout NARU?

jdsinva · October 26, 2006 4:27AM

<< I believe "White Elephant" is used to describe a mint error which is also a key date coin, such as an off-center 1909 S VDB or something like that. The thinking goes that a date/MM or type collector would want a non-error example in their collection and an error collector would hesitate paying the big bucks necessary for a key date example of an otherwise common error. >>

Ah, in that context, that makes sense (something no one wants), thanks for spreading the knowledge. . .

Shamika · October 26, 2006 4:28AM

1883 N/C- 1883 "no cent" shield nickel

Dipped- Dipping a coin in a solution that removes toning (and often luster).

PQ- PREMIUM Quality

TGS- ?

T1- Type 1 Buffalo nickel (original design, 1913 only)

T2- Type 2 Buffalo nickel (small changes to the reverse starting mid-way through 1913 until 1938)

TPN- ?

NPB-?

white elephant- A big ugly coin that nobody wants, but somebody is trying to sell.

CBH- ?

ezest- I think this is a type of Dip (cleaning solution).

ms 70- Namebrand for coin cleaner.

FT- Full Torch (used to designate a full strike on Roosies)

PC holder- ?

Shamika · October 26, 2006 4:29AM

NARU - Not A Registered User (an eBay username that has beened banned from further using eBay as a result of disobeying rules).

bushmaster8 · October 26, 2006 4:29AM

let's not forget FOAD!

Jcarney · October 26, 2006 4:32AM

<< let's not forget FOAD! >>

Is that anything like FUBAR?

BobGreene · October 26, 2006 4:37AM

TGS = Third-party Grading Service (also known as TPGS)

Cladiator · October 26, 2006 4:42AM

<< lets not forget

EDS - Early Die State
LDS - Late Die State
FBL - Full Bell Lines
ED - Early Date? >>

Don't forget VEDS and VLDS, the V is for Very

RichieURich · October 26, 2006 4:44AM

WB = Wiley Bugert classification of varieties for Liberty Seated Half Dollars

PC holder = coin in a PCGS holder

Pentimento · October 26, 2006 4:45AM

The hardest ones for me to figure out here are the "non-swears."

PITA
KMA
etc...

Aegis3 · October 26, 2006 4:48AM

Don't you have Ron Guth and David Hall reversed?

50cents · October 26, 2006 5:04AM

Link to Acronyms

Dog97 · October 26, 2006 5:08AM

I made myself look like a dumbass the other day when I asked what CBH toning was. Capped Bust Half.

fastrudy · October 26, 2006 5:34AM

FOAD- F*** off and die

also, DIAF- die in a fire

PITA- Pain in the A$$

KMA- Kiss my A$$

WoodenJefferson · October 26, 2006 6:24AM

Are we giving our trade secrets to the forum monitors by doing this?

WoodenJefferson · October 26, 2006 10:35AM

One mo time...final edit...gonna try and figure out how to tag this to sig line, any ideas how to accomplish that?

JMO- just my opinion
TGP- Third Party Graders
JMHO- just my (humble) opinion
POS- Piece of $hit
Micro O- super small new Orleans mint mark
ED
1909 VDB MPL-Victor David Brenner cent design, Matte Proof Lincoln
IMO- in my opinion
Flyer- Flying Eagle Cent, 1856/57/58
1883 N/C- No Cent on nickel
AT- artificially toned
NT- naturally toned
Dipped- cleaned with a chemical solution
PQ- premium quality/Proof Quality, which is it or both?
Roosies- Roosevelt Dimes,(particularly 90% silver 1946-1964)
Frankies- Franklin half dollars,1948-1963
YN-young numismatists
T1-type one, for Buffalo nickel (original design, 1913 only) for Jefferson nickels T1 steps (steps not braked with vertical lines) are there others?
T2-type 2, for Buffalo nickel (small changes to the reverse starting mid-way through 1913 until 1938) for Jefferson nickels (steps have vertical lines bracketing steps) are there others?
BST- buy, sell, trade, BST Forum
OT- Off Topic
PM- private message
TPN-
David Hall- God Jr., Coin Person with Hawaiian shirt
Ron Guth- God, Coin Person with Crown
TTT- to the top
GAE- gold American eagle
SAE- silver American eagle
OTOH- on the other hand
GSA CC- Government Services Administration, Carson City mint
First Strike™- flavor of the month
CUFYNA- collectors universe fyna
Registry sets- points awarded to slabbed series collections
WTC Coins- World Trade Center coins ( coins minted from silver recovered from the site)
NPB- non paying bidder, used in e-bay
white elephant- error missed by mint QA, then by grading service, on high $ coin (gold)
CBH- Capped Bust Half
FB-Feed Back, e-bay term for seller/buyer comments
FB- Dimes, Full Bands
OP-Original Poster
skin- originality of a coin as it pertains to strike, luster and look
ezest- cleaner
acetone- industrial chemical ( can be used for thinner, lacquers or oil base paints)
ms 70- cleaner, Name brand for coin cleaner
pop- population, as it pertains to registered coins that are slabbed
FT- full torch (used to designate a full strike on Roosies)
plat- platinum
pallad- palladium
macro- photography term usually associated with a type of lens setting for close-ups
* designation- Used to signify PQness by NGC
PC holder-
matte finish- also thought of as SATIN finish, mint dies glass bead blasted.
milk spots- milky white spots that mysteriously appear on silver eagles
SLQ- Standing Liberty Quarter
Modern Crap- anything minted post 1964, can be traced all the way back to board member "shirohniichan"
WANNABE-
NARU - Not A Registered User (an eBay username that has been banned from further using eBay as a result of disobeying rules).
FOAD- *expletive* off and die
EDS - Early Die State
MDS- Middle Die State
LDS - Late Die State
EMDS-Early Middle Die State
FBL - Full Bell Lines
ED - Early Date?
FUBAR- *expletive* up beyond all recognition
TGS-Third-party Grading Service (also known as TPGS)
VEDS- Very Early Die States
VEMS- Very Early Middle States
V- Very
PITA- pain in the a$$
KMA- kiss my a$$
WB- Wiley Bugert classification of varieties for Liberty Seated Half Dollars
KoolAid Pitcher™- linked to First Strike
DIAF- die in a fire
OF- Open Forum
Moose- an incredible coin, usually one that grades MS/PR-67 or higher

Swampboy · October 26, 2006 10:49AM

Moose

WoodenJefferson · October 26, 2006 10:51AM

moose?

what dat mean?

SilverEagles92 · October 26, 2006 10:54AM

Anyone already offer OF to the list?

Open Forum

WoodenJefferson · October 26, 2006 10:57AM

no, just OT off topic, consider it added OF

Swampboy · October 26, 2006 11:01AM

<< what dat mean? >>

moose
Slang for an incredible coin, usually one that grades MS/PR-67 or higher.

For Petarded.

-Amanda

From a post a few months back.

DMWJR · October 26, 2006 11:31AM

1909 VDB MPL-Victor David Brenner cent design, matte proof like ?

Ahem.... that would be Matte Proof Lincoln. It is a proof, not proof-like.

Conder101 · October 27, 2006 6:36AM

A white elephant is something of obvious or even great value, that nobody wants. A n error on a key date fits this idea perfectly.

The term comes from India where a white elephant was considered to be a sacred animal and were all considered to be the property of the local ruler. If someone did something to annoy the ruler he might find himself the recepient of a white elephant as a gift from the ruler. Now the problem is that the white elephant is sacred and must be pampered, you can't make it work, but it has a huge appetite. As a gift from the ruler you can't sell it or give it away so you were stuck with it while it slowly ate you out of house and home. The only honorable way to be rid of it was through your own death.

WoodenJefferson · October 27, 2006 6:52AM

Duely noted and logged (white elephant)...thank you Conder101

Shamika · October 27, 2006 7:11AM

<< PQ- premium quality/Proof Quality, which is it or both? >>

Premium quality. I've never heard of the term Proof Quality.

Don't forget POS.

WoodenJefferson · October 27, 2006 7:40AM

noted/edited about PQ=Premium Quality

POS is there, one of these days I will get around to alphbetizing this list...anyone know of a program that will do that?

Keep the corrections/submissions comming in...remember these are used here on the CU and not listed in general terminology, hence slang.

Shamika · October 27, 2006 2:35PM

* Designation - Used to signify superior eye-appeal by NGC. It DOES NOT signify PQness!
1883 N/C - 1883 Sheild nickel without "5 Cents" (No Cent) incorporated in the design
1909 VDB MPL - Victor David Brenner cent design, Matte Proof Lincoln
Acetone - Organic solvent, industrial chemical (can be used for thinner, lacquers or oil base paints)
AT - Artificially Toned
BST - Buy, Sell, Trade, BST Forum
CBH - Capped Bust Half
CUFYNA - Collectors Universe fyna
David Hall - God Jr., Coin Person with Hawaiian shirt and a founder of PCGS
DIAF - Die In A Fire
Dipped - Cleaned with a chemical solution
ED - Early date
EDS - Early Die State
EMDS - Early Middle Die State
Ezest - Coin cleaner
FB - Feed Back, eBay term for seller/buyer comments
FB - Mercury dimes exhibiting Full Bands due to an excellent strike.
FBL - Full Bell Lines
First Strike™ - Flavor of the month. Who really knows?
Flyer- Flying Eagle Cent, 1856/57/58
FOAD - F Off And Die
Frankies - Franklin half dollars,1948-1963
FT - Full Torch (used to designate a full strike on Roosies)
FUBAR - F'ed Up Beyond All Recognition
GAE - Gold American Eagle
GSA CC - Government Services Administration, Carson City mint
IMO - In My Opinion
JMHO - Just My Humble Opinion
JMO - Just My Opinion
KMA - Kiss My Ass
KoolAid Pitcher™ - Linked to First Strike, the act of marketing
LDS - Late Die State
Macro - Photography term usually associated with a type of lens setting for close-ups
Matte finish - Also thought of as SATIN finish, mint dies glass bead blasted.
MDS - Middle Die State
Micro O - Super small new Orleans mint mark
Milk spots - Milky white spots that mysteriously appear on silver eagles due to improper rinse at the mint.
Modern Crap - Anything minted post 1964, can be traced all the way back to board member "shirohniichan"
Moose - An incredible coin, usually one that grades MS/PR-67 or higher or a coin with astounding eye-appeal
MS70 - Name brand for coin cleaner
NARU - Not A Registered User (an eBay username that has been banned from further using eBay as a result of disobeying rules).
NPB - Non paying bidder, used in eBay
NT - Naturally Toned
OF - Open Forum
OMM - Overpunched Mint Mark such as a D/S
OP - Original Poster
OT - Off Topic
OTOH - On The Other Hand
Pallad (or Pd) - Palladium
PC holder - PCGS holder
PITA - Pain In The Ass
Plat (or Pt) - Platinum
PM - Private Message
Pop - Population, as it pertains to registered coins that are slabbed
POS- Piece of $hit
PQ - Premium Quality
Registry sets - Points awarded to slabbed series collections
Ron Guth - God, Coin Person with Crown and president of PCGS
Roosies - Roosevelt Dimes, particularly 90% silver 1946-1964
RPM - Repeated Punched Mintmark such as D/D
SAE - Silver American Eagle
Skin - Originality of a coin as it pertains to strike, luster and look
SLQ - Standing Liberty Quarter
T1 - Type 1, for Buffalo nickel (original design, 1913 only). For Jefferson nickels T1 steps (steps not braked with vertical lines). For Standing Liberty Quarters dated 1917 that show a bare breast.
T2 - Type 2, for Buffalo nickel (small changes to the reverse starting mid-way through 1913 until 1938). For Jefferson nickels (steps have vertical lines bracketing steps). For Standing Liberty Quarters dated 1917 that show a covered breast.
TGP - Third Party Graders
TGS - Third-party Grading Service (also known as TPGS)
TPN - ?
TTT - To The Top
VEDS - Very Early Die States
VEMS - Very Early Middle States
V - Very
WANNABE - Usually pertains to a fly-by-night dealer who thinks of himself as an expert or the collectors friend. Often in it for the money only. Can also pertain to a collector who hasn't paid his dues.
WB - Wiley Bugert classification of varieties for Liberty Seated Half Dollars
White elephant - Error missed by mint QA, then by grading service, on high $ coin (gold)
WTC Coins - World Trade Center coins (coins minted from silver recovered from the site)
YN - Young Numismatists

WoodenJefferson · October 27, 2006 3:34PM

Super job...you have been imoratlized in my sig line

Well, at least until the moderator takes a peek

tychojoe · October 27, 2006 5:28PM

FSH -- means "for sale here" over on the BST board, right? I'm guessing...

zkcoins · October 27, 2006 10:22PM

<< FSH -- means "for sale here" over on the BST board, right? I'm guessing... >>

correct....and people get really sad when they find an ebay link inside....so don't make that mistake or you will get burned at the stake over there, lol j/k!!

bushmaster8 · November 30, 2006 4:27AM

TAT= turnaround time

Longacre · November 30, 2006 4:29AM

GTG-- Guess The Grade (or, alternatively, can be used as an abbreviation for Greg The Great)
COT-- Circle of Trust™

RegistryCoin · November 30, 2006 11:09AM

<< FSH -- means "for sale here" over on the BST board, right? I'm guessing... >>

Sooo, all you nice sellers on the BST aren't offering Free Shipping and Handling???

RichieURich · November 30, 2006 11:20AM

<< GTG-- Guess The Grade (or, alternatively, can be used as an abbreviation for Greg The Great)
COT-- Circle of Trust™ >>

Whatever happened to Greg The Great? Did he ever give back the stapler he borrowed?

CaptHenway · December 28, 2006 12:06AM

Expand milk spots to include Peace dollars.
TD

CaptHenway · December 28, 2006 12:12AM

IMHO, you see IMHO more often than JMHO.
TD

kingkoin56 · March 9, 2009 10:43PM

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