Scammers are alive and well for 2nd chances
Kaelasdad
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I bid on an AGE set that was up on Ebay. It was from a board member, and we had discussed delivery if i won. It went for a little more than I wanted so I passed, and another bidder won it.
I have received at least 5 different 2nd chance offers, these look amazingly like they originated from Ebay, with just a few differences. I verified with the original seller that there was no 2nd chance offer in play. he agreed he had sent nothing out.
I have reported these to Ebay, but each one is from a different scammer, I feel that many people are going to be ripped off, and i wonder what Ebay is doing on their end. Please be very aware of these 2nd chance scammers, someone is going to be burned. I was tempted to reply and offer to meet to make a purchase, then get them for attempted robbery, but who needs that drama in their life. If you are a seller, please let people know if you plan on using 2nd chance offers.
I usually dont like the private auctions, but I would be tempted to bid in one now if i knew i would not be bombarded with these scammers.
Russ
I have received at least 5 different 2nd chance offers, these look amazingly like they originated from Ebay, with just a few differences. I verified with the original seller that there was no 2nd chance offer in play. he agreed he had sent nothing out.
I have reported these to Ebay, but each one is from a different scammer, I feel that many people are going to be ripped off, and i wonder what Ebay is doing on their end. Please be very aware of these 2nd chance scammers, someone is going to be burned. I was tempted to reply and offer to meet to make a purchase, then get them for attempted robbery, but who needs that drama in their life. If you are a seller, please let people know if you plan on using 2nd chance offers.
I usually dont like the private auctions, but I would be tempted to bid in one now if i knew i would not be bombarded with these scammers.
Russ
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<< <i>and i wonder what Ebay is doing on their end >>
Short of eliminating the second chance feature, there is nothing that they can do about it.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>The second chance program should be eliminated completely. >>
I have received 2 in 2 days. I guess if you bid on something you should expect to the follow up spam/fraud.
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<< <i>The second chance program should be eliminated completely. >>
It's a damn shame. On paper, second chance seems like a great idea, especially for people dealing in commodity items like DVDs and stuff. For the seller, it gives them the chance to sell to multiple buyers with a single listing. For buyers, it gives them the opportunity to get something they wanted even though they didn't "win".
The scammers killed what was potentially a very nice service.
<< <i>Short of eliminating the second chance feature, there is nothing that they can do about it. Russ, NCNE >>
And that's exactly what needs to be done... NOW.
Unfortunately, nearly every coin that sells for more than $400 becomes open season for fraud. Ebay clearly won't do anything to combat this problem. In my opinion, some 90% of all second chance offers are fraudulent. Any intelligent person would think eBay would just eliminate the SCO program to protect their customers. But they're too busy revamping the website, changing the selling platform, adding or changing features that nobody wants, needs, or asked for, all while INTENTIONALLY allowing fraud & counterfeit items to flourish like disease. It's sad, really.
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<< <i>Any intelligent person would think eBay would just eliminate the SCO program to protect their customers. But they're too busy revamping the website, changing the selling platform, adding or changing features that nobody wants, needs, or asked for, all while INTENTIONALLY allowing fraud & counterfeit items to flourish like disease. >>
Yea, verily.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Any intelligent person would think eBay would just eliminate the SCO program to protect their customers. But they're too busy revamping the website, changing the selling platform, adding or changing features that nobody wants, needs, or asked for, all while INTENTIONALLY allowing fraud & counterfeit items to flourish like disease. It's sad, really. >>
I agree with VamGuy and Russ on this one.
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Note: and yes, you'd think that e-bay could police themselves, but internet is vast like the infinity of space, like the on duty officer tells his people before they go out on patrol, "Be careful out there" same applies here.
"Keep your malarkey filter in good operating order" -Walter Breen
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<< <i>Uh...why should scammers stop using SCO if eBay gets rid it. The SCO genie's already out of the bottle and the scammers profit from people that don't pay attention, >>
Bingo, plus if they discontinue the SCO now and the scammers continue to send them out, now maybe there is a good reason why they don't show in the My eBay.
4 days later I had the coin in hand. I checked out the second chance and felt it was a valid offer. You did the same and found that it wasn't or wasn't usually.
The key element here is that they have to be checked out. Anybody who immediately responds to a 2nd chance offer is begging to lose money.
John
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bag out on that purchase. I told the seller he was full of it. Just ship the coin and I'll pay as I exit.
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<< <i>and i wonder what Ebay is doing on their end >>
Short of eliminating the second chance feature, there is nothing that they can do about it.
Russ, NCNE >>
Money lost from ebay's pocket..hardly..Ebay sends those dumb acknowledgement letters about phony 2nd chance offers..Bet all the mail directed towards spoof @ebay is _hit canned.
Woe to those scammed... Ebay don't see nothing ...know nothing nor hear nothing
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<< <i>and i wonder what Ebay is doing on their end >>
Short of eliminating the second chance feature, there is nothing that they can do about it.
Russ, NCNE >>
Woe to those scammed... Ebay don't see nothing ...know nothing nor hear nothing >>
"Keep your malarkey filter in good operating order" -Walter Breen
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
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<< <i>Actually, I wonder if eBay makes money on these scams. In order for the scammers to get all the information, they have to have some sort of bot querying eBay's databases through eBay's pay-per-use web API. >>
Ebay makes money on legit 2nd chance offers.... If you get scammed tough _ hit!!!!! ....... ebay has made their money.
Look at the phony coins from China ..Ebay makes their money . but ...oh "so sorri " if you get scammed ,,