Bought a PSA 10, but was sent "raw garbage" instead! It sucks!

Does anyone know of this card, cert #?
I won this card, but was sent a raw example worth maybe $5 to $10 instead of a PSA 10 graded gem. I was hoping somebody knew this scan? I have a dispute claim with Paypal. Plus I used my credit card, as an extra line of safety. This really sucks!
A footnote: The seller claimed he had a family emergency and he had someone else mailing-out his auction items, and they sent me the wrong card (that just happened to be a raw Lou Whitaker rookie card!). He asked me to send him the incorrect card back and he would then refund me. Paypal said to wait until they sent me instructions on send his incorrect item back!
Refund? I wonder who owns the real PSA 10?
rd
Here is the auction: Link to auction
ANYONE KNOW THIS CARD?

A FOLLOW-UP! 11/3/2006
Paypal came thru for me!
The seller did not respond to Paypal's emails within 10 days! So I won the claim! That was cool! So Paypal sent $460.00 back to my credit card!
The "Buyer's Protection Plan" worked for me!!!!!!!!!!!!
Plus, I picked-up the same card from Levi Bleam for almost $100 less this week. I'm happy!
So even if I didn't use a credit card, Paypal would have refunded me 100%! That's pretty cool!
rd
edit: I will continue to use my credit card, when using Paypal, for that extra layer of protection, just in case!
I won this card, but was sent a raw example worth maybe $5 to $10 instead of a PSA 10 graded gem. I was hoping somebody knew this scan? I have a dispute claim with Paypal. Plus I used my credit card, as an extra line of safety. This really sucks!
A footnote: The seller claimed he had a family emergency and he had someone else mailing-out his auction items, and they sent me the wrong card (that just happened to be a raw Lou Whitaker rookie card!). He asked me to send him the incorrect card back and he would then refund me. Paypal said to wait until they sent me instructions on send his incorrect item back!
Refund? I wonder who owns the real PSA 10?

rd
Here is the auction: Link to auction
ANYONE KNOW THIS CARD?

A FOLLOW-UP! 11/3/2006
Paypal came thru for me!
The seller did not respond to Paypal's emails within 10 days! So I won the claim! That was cool! So Paypal sent $460.00 back to my credit card!
The "Buyer's Protection Plan" worked for me!!!!!!!!!!!!
Plus, I picked-up the same card from Levi Bleam for almost $100 less this week. I'm happy!
So even if I didn't use a credit card, Paypal would have refunded me 100%! That's pretty cool!
rd
edit: I will continue to use my credit card, when using Paypal, for that extra layer of protection, just in case!
Quicksilver Messenger Service - Smokestack Lightning (Live) 1968
Quicksilver Messenger Service - The Hat (Live) 1971
0
Comments
That has to be the worst bait-switch I've seen.
And a felony no less due to the value.
I wonder if the seller realizes that.
At least I have the "$ 1,000 buyer's protection plan" by Paypal, and as a last resort, I can put a claim in with my credit card co.
We shall see!
rd
Quicksilver Messenger Service - Smokestack Lightning (Live) 1968
Quicksilver Messenger Service - The Hat (Live) 1971
This is guy sounds like a piece of work.
The guy sells fake Jordan shoes also.
mike
My daughter was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes at the age of 2 (2003). My son was diagnosed with Type 1 when he was 17 on December 31, 2009. We were stunned that another child of ours had been diagnosed. Please, if you don't have a favorite charity, consider giving to the JDRF (Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation)
JDRF Donation
But every night the bidders come around,
And lay their money down.
<< <i>With that feedback I wouldn't have bid in the first place but good luck anyway. >>
"LIED IN DESCRIPTION! Smells of animal urine, covered in fur & hair! No Response!"
Animal urine? I always did prefer human urine!!!
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Any suggestions? Paid through Paypal, and honestly this is the first time I've gotten hosed, let alone to this degree.
Buyer ragnfly( 1179) Mar-19-06 08:47 5472591039
Reply by trg1980: I don't have any animals!! This EBayer is a liar!! Pants are NEW WITH TAGS!!! Mar-21-06 13:12
Follow-up by ragnfly: NO RESPONSE TIL I LEFT NEG/I have $14 dry cleaning bill 2 remove smell/wool pant >>>
As a rule the first thing I look for when deciding not to bid on a seller's auction is feedback whereby someone complains about their received item smelling of animal urine.
<< <i>Does anyone know of this card, cert #?
I won this card, but was sent a raw example worth maybe $5 to $10 instead of a PSA 10 graded gem. I was hoping somebody knew this scan? I have a dispute claim with Paypal. Plus I used my credit card, as an extra line of safety. This really sucks!
A footnote: The seller claimed he had a family emergency and he had someone else mailing-out his auction items, and they sent me the wrong card (that just happened to be a raw Lou Whitaker rookie card!). He asked me to send him the incorrect card back and he would then refund me. Paypal said to wait until they sent me instructions on send his incorrect item back!
Refund? I wonder who owns the real PSA 10?
rd
Here is the auction: Link to auction
ANYONE KNOW THIS CARD?
A FOLLOW-UP!
Paypal came thru for me!
The seller did not respond to Paypal's emails within 10 days! So I won the claim! That was cool! So Paypal sent $460.00 back to my credit card!
The "Buyer's Protection Plan" worked for me!!!!!!!!!!!!
Plus, I picked-up the same card from Levi Bleam for almost $100 less this week. I'm happy!
So even if I didn't use a credit card, Paypal would have refunded me 100%! That's pretty cool!
rd
edit: I will continue to use my credit card, when using Paypal, for that extra layer of protection, just in case!
Quicksilver Messenger Service - Smokestack Lightning (Live) 1968
Quicksilver Messenger Service - The Hat (Live) 1971
My 1934 Goudey Set
<< <i>So you are going to leave him a negative right? That would help future bidders to know the truth. >>
Well, no!
Seller did offer me a refund if I returned the incorrect item to him. I chose to go thru the dispute/claim process with Paypal first, and let Paypal, instruct me to return, or not to return the incorrect raw card to the Seller.
It turned out that this seller did not respond to Paypal's emails within 10 days, so I win the claim, its automatic!
I should get a negative feedback for being sooooooooo stupid as to take a chance and bid and win a $400+ item from a "56 feedback seller, with some recent negative back".
My bad! It turned-out ok, but I want to put this to bed:
She admitted (via an ebay message) that I was sent the wrong item.
She offered me a refund.
She didn't challenge my Paypal claim.
I got 100% of my money back from Paypal!
Let her (I think her name is Tami?) continue to sell her Harley Davidson parts.
I'm done with it (her!)!!!! (If she really is a her? Selling Harley parts?)
rd
Quicksilver Messenger Service - Smokestack Lightning (Live) 1968
Quicksilver Messenger Service - The Hat (Live) 1971
<< <i>Well, no! >>
<< <i>Seller did offer me a refund if I returned the incorrect item to him. I chose to go thru the dispute/claim process with Paypal first, and let Paypal, instruct me to return, or not to return the incorrect raw card to the Seller. >>
I
<< <i>I should get a negative feedback for being sooooooooo stupid as to take a chance and bid and win a $400+ item from a "56 feedback seller, with some recent negative back". >>
Sorry rdbjr1, I disagree. You should leave the negeative feedback, this is exactly what it is for. I assure you if I had sent you the incorrect item (By $400) I would have immediately sent the correct item. This seller is a bad for ebay. Not leaving the negative allows for this to happen again.
As far as the possibilty of a retalitory Neg, who cares. good buyers and sellers that may have a few retalitory negs are not affected by these negs.
just my 2 cents
262
Collecting all cards - Gus Zernial
Post Cereal both raw and PSA Graded (1961-1963)
<< <i>Plus, I picked-up the same card from Levi Bleam for almost $100 less this week. I'm happy! >>
nobody is going to believe you that you bought a card from Levi for less than it sells for on auction..