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LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
I was taking a look at the Heritage Dallas Auction catalog. In the half cent section, they had the following description. I know that auction firms regularly cite specialty books about a series, in order to give die state information, rarity analysis, etc. However, I am not sure how often regular articles are cited in auction catalogs as authoritative references, such as the one below. Heritage is citing a Gene Braig study that appeared in the May, 1990 issue of Penny-Wise. I have not read this article, but I was wondering how often specialty articles are cited, and how prominent the author needs to be to make it as a citing reference. Does anyone know whether there are parameters to this practice?

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1804 1/2 C Spiked Chin--Cleaned--ANACS. VF20 Details. C-6, B-6, R.2. Manley Die State 12.0 or possibly later. Equivalent to Braig Die State 9.0. This is the latest die state described by Ron Manley in The Half Cent Die State Book and it is an extremely rare die state. Only two examples of this die state are currently known with an extra small depression over the M of AMERICA. It is also the latest known die state described by Gene Braig in "Reverse Die State Progression of the 1804 G-8, C-6, B-6 Spiked Chin Half Cent" published in the May 1990 issue of Penny-Wise. Although Walter Breen described two later die states, neither are currently known to exist. The obverse of this example has light tan surfaces and may have been lightly cleaned as described by ANACS. The all-important reverse has rich chestnut-brown color with deeper olive on the devices and additional splashes of steel color. EAC 12.(Registry values: P4)
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I do not know the answer to your question, but I do know that I get very sleepy when someone starts to talk about die states of early copper. imageimage
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I do not know the answer to your question, but I do know that I get very sleepy when someone starts to talk about die states of early copper. imageimage >>





    For some reason I can get into die states for early copper, but die states for gold puts me to sleep. Maybe it has to do with affordability (although both can be pricey).
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
    --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,516 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I see it done by auction firms when they can expect a higher realized price with whatever it is they are quoting/referring to. Stacks does it with early silver as does Heritage. It is not always accurate or appropriate.
  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    Several auction firms, including Heritage, have referenced or quoted from my published articles in their catalogs. In most cases this was done to point out new research that makes the story of their coin more interesting. In some instances, an article may be the only published source for the information – the details never having made it into a book.
  • Consignor may have made the citing of the article as a prerequisite to his/her consigning the coin with Auction Firm ?
  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,915 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>I do not know the answer to your question, but I do know that I get very sleepy when someone starts to talk about die states of early copper. imageimage >>





    For some reason I can get into die states for early copper, but die states for gold puts me to sleep. Maybe it has to do with affordability (although both can be pricey). >>



    Ah, but just look at the 1804 half eagles! Threee of the obverses (the three normal dates) all have bisecting die cracks, one of them huge, at least two reverses have significant die cracks, and one reverse has a nice little cud in its later die states. How can you not find gild die states uninteresting? And let me remind you about this coin:
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    Or look at the rather similar bisecting obversedie cracks on the 1808 B. 1-A and 1810 B. 2-B half eagles (sorry about using Breen numbers, I haven't been able to really start thinking in B-D numbers yet). Quite intriguing, aren't they? Who cares that I cannot even begin to afford them?
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    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was a lowly and fairly unknown researcher imo with a couple of so-so articles in the Gobrecht Journal. Yet, QDB sited my rarity work on New Orleans UNC seated quarters in either the Norweb or Eliasberg catalog (cannot remember which as I am missing both cats).

    What was really strange is that I was misquoted for the most part. I followed back up with a letter to QDB explaining the errors. Dave copied that letter in his next Rare Coin Review and took full responsibility for the error. That was my 15 minutes of fame.

    So the answer to your question: no parameters, any articles can do, the field is open.

    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭✭
    when it makes the auction firm look good and also means increased demand and then higher prices realized
  • numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭

    Holy cow......I love that 1797. Aaaahhhhhhhhh.

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