SGC? ARE THEY LEGIT?

Overrated · October 21, 2006 11:46AM

EBAY HAS A 52 MANTLE GRADED BY SGC, THEY CALL IT A 5? PSA NO WAY WOULD SAY ITS A 5 THE ONLY COMPANY I WOULD BY IS PSA THIS IS WHY!!!!!!!!!!!

lawnmowerman · October 21, 2006 11:49AM

mantle

tennesseebanker · October 21, 2006 11:51AM

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EagleEyeKid · October 21, 2006 11:54AM

Yes they are legit.
Looks like a 7 OC to me.
Overall, it's an ugly card IMO.

Allen · October 21, 2006 12:20PM

That is one snow white 1952T

Overrated · October 21, 2006 12:30PM

LOOKS TRIMMED TO ME! AND WAY OFF CENTER.

PSAJIM · October 21, 2006 1:13PM

<< <i>LOOKS TRIMMED TO ME! AND WAY OFF CENTER. >>

I agree, do not buy any SGC graded cards, PSA is the only way to go. They are the only company to have employees that actually know what they are looking at when it comes to grading cards.

Overrated · October 21, 2006 1:15PM

right on brother!

Courvoisier · October 21, 2006 1:50PM

It looks like the Playa Hatin' committee has come today in this day of pimpin-mony.

Looks like a decent 5 to me. So many playa haters on here. BGS, PSA, and SGC are legit.

The only problem I see about this auction is "Heritage lots purchased through eBay Live carry a 22.5% Buyer's Premium."

Play On...

Stone193 · October 21, 2006 2:51PM

I agree with the Pimpmeister - PSA, SGC, GAI and Beckett are all legit and have their own niche in the marketplace.

And, BTW, if the hobby decided to accept "aftermarket" professionally sheetcut cards? That would ok with me.

Further, if the hobby decided that professionally "reworking" vintage was ok? That would be ok with me.

Heck, they restore movie posters - and it can actually increase the value of the poster.

As long as people "know" what they are getting.

Well...

that's my soapbox for the day.
thanx
mike

ps: I would be proud to have that card for the right price.

Southerncards · October 22, 2006 12:54AM

Good to see that the SGC naysayers are alive and well. Havent seen any SGC bashing in a while. I was starting to worry.

That card is properly graded according to SGC guidelines and I'd gladly add it to my collection. Nothing wrong with a Mantle rookie in that condition.

GO SGC!

2dueces · October 22, 2006 12:59AM

I wouldnt mind having that 52 Mantle or any 52 Mantle for that matter, in my collection.

themetalsign · October 22, 2006 1:00AM

That's is a 5 all day to me.

PSA, SGC are the toughest.

GAI and BVG are good but I think they grade a little softer compared to PSA and SGC.

They all have their market niche. They are all good.

I prefer SGC or PSA.

Dave D.

Kurtman9 · October 22, 2006 1:55AM

That Mantle looks like a solid 5 based on Mike's scan.

RonBurgundy · October 22, 2006 6:39AM

The card looks properly graded to me. I would love to own that card.

Ron

koby · October 22, 2006 8:34AM

Very off centered top to bottom, but it is otherwise a nice card.

SGC has a reputation for being very soft on centering problems like this card.

If someone is looking for a crossover, I predict PSA 5 OC.

Southerncards · October 22, 2006 10:25AM

From SGC's site:

60 EX 5: 80/20 or better centering, minor rounding or fuzzing of corners, roughness or chipping along edge (no layering), one VERY slight surface or "spider" crease may exist on one side of the card, gloss may be lost from surface with some scratching that does not detract from the aesthetics of the card.

Now I'm not a pixel counter but I'd say that description is on the money. Where is the "soft" centering issue? Koby, I could say that PSA has a reputation for..... (oh geez where do I start?). I dont think you'll find many complaints about the centering. It looks like they've matched their criteria.

nhcardhunter · October 22, 2006 12:09PM

There's no such thing as a psa 5 oc, only 7 oc and above. I think that Mantle's properly graded. I've seen PSA 6's that don't look that good. It does have a slight tilt but nevertheless, a nice example. SGC, BVG, GAI, and PSA are all pretty tough on grading. It all comes down to preference.

Best,

Jim

djspann · October 22, 2006 12:28PM

Does a PSA 5(OC) exist? I know that there are some PSA 6(OC)s, but they're pretty rare.

This card seems to meet PSA's centering requirements of 85/15 for a PSA 5. If anything, the card has a bit of a diamond cut, so PSA could give it a MC qualifier. So, this could potentially come back as a 5(MC). The card looks pretty good otherwise, though, so maybe it's a 6(MC), at worst?

Doug

rana · October 22, 2006 12:34PM

If you look only at the pop reports you might think PSA 5 OC cards do not exist. They are rare, but they definitely exist. For example:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330023268698

earlycalguy · October 22, 2006 1:01PM

<< <i>Does a PSA 5(OC) exist? I know that there are some PSA 6(OC)s, but they're pretty rare.

This card seems to meet PSA's centering requirements of 85/15 for a PSA 5. If anything, the card has a bit of a diamond cut, so PSA could give it a MC qualifier. So, this could potentially come back as a 5(MC). The card looks pretty good otherwise, though, so maybe it's a 6(MC), at worst?

I don't believe this is an example of a mis cut card. normally that applies to a card cut too close to one of the edges and a portion of the card on the side cut too close may not be visible. can be on front or back of the card. check the 75' topps mini thread for some examples of miscut cards.

SGC? ARE THEY LEGIT?

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