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Oops! Disasters In the Hobby

Recently the owner of a Picasso painting valued at $100 mill put his elbow through the painting while showing it off.

Last night I noticed my new dog (lab-border collie mix) was quiet... too quiet while I was troubleshooting my wireless network.

I found her chewing on my 1972 Topps Rod Carew IA raw that I had just received from Ebay. Luckily I was only out $12.

Do you have any "oops!" moments to share with the hobby?
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  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    paid an arm and a leg for a 1974 OPC Schmidt BGS 9.5 back in the 2000 timeframe, before it was common knowledge [or before, really, anyone knew] that Beckett graded Sheet-cut cards, and there were a huge number of 1970s baseball sheets getting chopped up in Canada and sent to Beckett.
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    cracked out a Tango Egg, turned a 7 into a 5 with a screwdriver scrape on the back.

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭
    I was about 7 ( I'm 37 ) and my aunt gave me her three sons baseball card collection. The cards were from the mid 50's to the mid 70's. Instead of putting them away till I was older and could appreciate them and care for them properly my mom gave them to me right away. Obviously she didnt know any better either, so I cant blame her. I promptly dumped them all over the floor loaded up my Tonka dump truck and took them for multiple adventures around and outside of the house.

    Well to make it worse I left them in the basement in stacks on the floor and our faithfull mut "Dodger" decided to whiz all over them. They ended up in a large hefty bag and went on their final adventure to the county landfill. image

    matt

  • Purchased many unopened boxes(minus Score 1989 Football) from 1989-1991. Now that's a disaster!





    Markimage
    1981-82 Topps Basketball PSA 9 or 10
    1992-93 Topps Basketball PSA 9 or 10
    1976 Topps Baseball PSA 9 or 10
    1981 Topps Los Angeles Dodgers PSA 9 or 10
    1982 Topps Los Angeles Dodgers PSA 9 or 10
    1986 Topps Los Angeles Dodgers PSA 9 or 10
    1975 Topps Wacky Packages Series 15 PSA 9 or 10
  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,616 ✭✭✭✭
    I started collecting cards when I was about 6, and somewhere around the age of 9 I turned my attention to collecting coins. Then to comic books. Then back to cards for good. Anyway, during my first go round as a card collector, I really wanted a Babe Ruth card for my birthday. This was around '81 or '82. My father could not find one cheaper than $250 (gulp), so he bought me a sweet '57 Mantle instead for $40. I don't remember the condition off the top of my head, but it was probably NM or NM-MT. Anyway, I wound up trading the Mantle straight up for some rare U.S. quarter. They both had the same book value at the time...and that quarter is probably still worth the same lousy $70 it was at the time of the trade image
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I started collecting cards when I was about 6, and somewhere around the age of 9 I turned my attention to collecting coins. Then to comic books. Then back to cards for good. Anyway, during my first go round as a card collector, I really wanted a Babe Ruth card for my birthday. This was around '81 or '82. My father could not find one cheaper than $250 (gulp), so he bought me a sweet '57 Mantle instead for $40. I don't remember the condition off the top of my head, but it was probably NM or NM-MT. Anyway, I wound up trading the Mantle straight up for some rare U.S. quarter. They both had the same book value at the time...and that quarter is probably still worth the same lousy $70 it was at the time of the trade image >>



    Ouch!

    Matt
  • CON40CON40 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭
    When I was about 10, my neighbor gave me his old baseball cards... maybe a stck of 25 or so. I thought they were cool with the colored photos and all, but they were bigger than my baseball cards. So, I cut them down to size with scissors to be the same as my cards. image

    In the stack was a '55 Mays and Mathews, 'and 56 Aaron and Al Cerv.

    I have several framed vintage cards in my living room, among them a T206 Cy Young w/ Glove. A few years ago I decided to take out the Young and possibly grade it. It's VG, but has no creases and presents well. I have it adhered to a foam riser in the frame with Rubber Cement (many years ago). No big deal. A little thinner and it comes right off. Right? Wrong. As I removed it, I pulled the paper right off the back! image
  • Bob Ugstad stole about $25,000 worth of cards from my father's collection. The '52s came from packs and were pristine. You know, that gentle, sloping curve, with flawless corners.

    All so his poverty-stricken family could eat. Alcoholic mother, etc.

    This thief must die.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I bought a stack of Exmt 63F BB commons at a flea market.

    I put them next to the stick shift - slam on the break - coke goes flying into cards - now the cards are an interesting shade of brown!

    From Exmt to F-P in a blink of the eye.

    From then on, I carried my own cardsavers when I go buying.

    mike
    Mike
  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    bought stevie wonder's inner visions on vinyl, original edition, and broke the record in transit from flea market to house....

    julen
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    RIP GURU
  • Bought a Gordon cut card to flip as it was only $15 BIN. Opened the mail on porch and left it out there. Well... my dog ate it.

    Sent out some Double Die FF versions on accident. Instead of a $1 and $5 card they got a $10 and $40 card.

    I put Dodger cards in envelopes and let my boys pick one when their good. I went to open one by cutting the end off to put in a screwdown and cut the card. $10 card

    Bought a cello case and 2 rack cases that I could tell were cherry picked and resealed but I opened them anyways "in case". Nope they were picked clean.
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  • MooseDogMooseDog Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭
    I've done this too many times to admit, but here goes.

    While inspecting cards for prospective grading potential, drop said card on the desk.

    For some reason they seem to always land on a corner.
  • gregmo32gregmo32 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭
    In about 1990 or so, at the height of Bo Jackson's fame, my dog chewed up a 1988 Topps Football cello pack (smelled the gum inside I guess) with Bo on front that I had patiently saving for two years. Thought by now it would be worth several hundred bucks. Ending up being a great dog too, back then he was just a puppy...
    I am buying and trading for RC's of Wilt Chamberlain, George Mikan, Bill Russell, Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, and Bob Cousy!
    Don't waste your time and fees listing on ebay before getting in touch me by PM or at gregmo32@aol.com !
  • alnavmanalnavman Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭
    This wasn't a OOPS by me but I remember being at a show several years ago where one of the dealers had a real nice display case about 6x4 that he had a Tiger Woods autographed picture, actual course used golf ball, club and several read nice pictures of Tiger in it for display. He was holding it up showing it to someone and all of a sudden lost his grip and the case went flying..........Needless to say this fine collectible had to go back to the garage for some rework!! I really felt bad for the guy......
  • Brian48Brian48 Posts: 2,624 ✭✭✭
    Before I got my gunsafe, I kept all my most expensive, slabbed cards in an open top cardboard box and on a shelf. One day I was cleaning the shelf so I put the box on the floor for a few minutes. My (then) four year old daughter comes by with a big glass of water,................well, you can imagine the rest. image
  • Bought a 700 count lot of vending fresh 68 and 69 baseball...along with 3- 3200 count boxes of mixed 60's and 70's cards. It was raining that night when I got home and wanted to make the trip inside with one fell swoop.

    so as I run through the door...with the 3 monster boxes one on top of the other....and the 800 count box of singles sliding around on top of that...

    My daughter runs out of no where and greets me with a huge hug around my knees!! Which of course stops me in my tracks. The boxes start to shift forward..as they still had what momentum I had lost..

    I trying to catch up to the boxes..not step on my daughter...and save the whole load from hitting the floor..

    End result...the 800 card box with the pristine vending singles take the dive.....700 cards...not enough to fill the box..so there was some room to move..AND the box landed right on an edge...every card had the slightest little ding to the bottom left corner!!!

    I saved the junk....but turned the gems into NM cards in .5 second flat!!

    I'll remind her of this story when she askes about her college money!!!
  • tennesseebankertennesseebanker Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭
    Trading my entire collection in 1986 to buy a 1981 Fiat (what a Piece of Chit)
    I had loads of cards from the 50's and 60's. probably had a dozen or so Mantle's, a Koufax and Clemente rookie, and just about any other card from 53 on. The piece of crap Fiat ran about a year before I took it to the scrap heap. OOOOOpppss !
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  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>Bob Ugstad stole about $25,000 worth of cards from my father's collection. The '52s came from packs and were pristine. You know, that gentle, sloping curve, with flawless corners.

    All so his poverty-stricken family could eat. Alcoholic mother, etc.

    This thief must die. >>



    Who's Bob Ugstad?

    Also, I passed up a chance to trade a 1987 Topps Tracy Jones blankback for a gorgeous 1967 Seaver. So that was special.
  • This isn't an oops by me but I think it trumps the lot so far.

    My Dad had an uncle that worked for Topps. Every Christmas the uncle would come over with the entire year's set in a butter box. While how far into the 60s these sets ran he can't remember but he knows for certain that he had '52 - '59. They're somewhere in a land fill right now. The thing is, he never even collected cards.

    The horror ... the horror ....

    Arthur
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,392 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not by me but it happend at a show I attended. A guy walked in with a GEM 1952 Topps Complete set all in sheets. His intent was to sell the set to a dealer. Well he showed it to the first dealer all in his 9 card sheets and he replied I cant afford this set but Ill show you to someone who would be interested. Well the dealer looked through them for about 2 min until he said wait. These are 9 card sheets, this set is larger than normal topps and they cant fit in these. They were all trimmed. Then the man said but I spent all last night cuting them so they could fit in these sheets so I could display them for sale.
    EWWWW!!!!
    Mantle and all!
  • BigRedMachineBigRedMachine Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭
    I traded what had to be a nm/nmmt Nolan Ryan rookie to my local card dealer in 1987 for a hobby box of 1987 topps and a $20 bill. image

    Guess the lure of Kal Daniels and Mike Greenwell rookies were too much to pass up.


  • << <i>Not by me but it happend at a show I attended. A guy walked in with a GEM 1952 Topps Complete set all in sheets. His intent was to sell the set to a dealer. Well he showed it to the first dealer all in his 9 card sheets and he replied I cant afford this set but Ill show you to someone who would be interested. Well the dealer looked through them for about 2 min until he said wait. These are 9 card sheets, this set is larger than normal topps and they cant fit in these. They were all trimmed. Then the man said but I spent all last night cuting them so they could fit in these sheets so I could display them for sale.
    EWWWW!!!!
    Mantle and all! >>





    Man, what a sad story. That could be a made for TV horror movie.
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  • << <i>I traded what had to be a nm/nmmt Nolan Ryan rookie to my local card dealer in 1987 for a hobby box of 1987 topps and a $20 bill. image

    Guess the lure of Kal Daniels and Mike Greenwell rookies were too much to pass up. >>



    Don't forget Kurt Stillwell image

    Arthur
  • <<Sent out some Double Die FF versions on accident. Instead of a $1 and $5 card they got a $10 and $40 card.>>


    Hey donavan I jus opened a error case and found someo fhteseff that look printed twice are these double dies as you call them. can you tell me what they are worth . Ive been through 100's of these cases and these are the first i've ever seen like this
  • I bought a FF double die a few years back for ............$500. Yeah I know, but I wanted it. My FF buddy bought the other for the same price. Then 2 years later there was one on ebay sold to my other FF buddy for $100. A black scribble Double Die sold a few weeks back on ebay for $15.

    What version is it? I got GAI to grade my FF and they have my scribble Double Die (F showing I think it was). On the FF Double Die- they sold in 1989 for $150 I think it was. I have the ads at home. The DDie FF on a few has teh words doubled in black and one my buddies in doubled in red.

    If I can get a pic I would appretiate it. Im gone for teh weekend so I'll get back on Monday.

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  • i think mine look the the double print one in your group of pics posted here
  • rbdjr1rbdjr1 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭
    Thinking about all the Mickey Mantle PSA 9s, I owned! I dumped them all! PSA will never last, I said to myself! image


    rd
  • BunkerBunker Posts: 3,926
    Handyman that makes me sick just thinking about it.
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  • I bought an unopened 1978 Star Wars stormtrooper action figure. Incredible condition. Anyway, I decided to take off the old price tag on it and unfortunately did $200 worth of damage to it image
    My sets:
    1977 Topps Star Wars - "Space Swashbucklers"
  • BuccaneerBuccaneer Posts: 1,794 ✭✭
    Biggest disaster, sort of, happened at the same time. For three years in the late 80s, I went to the great Cincy show. In 1988, I had $500 in my pocket but first I had to talk to Dean Lipke (sp?) about my subscription to the Old Judge. While talking with him, he showed me a few pages in his binder of Allen&Ginters. They were priced between $50-$90. I walked away and bought boxes and boxes of 1988 Topps and 1988 Topps Big instead.


  • << <i>I walked away and bought boxes and boxes of 1988 Topps and 1988 Topps Big instead >>



    Oh no!image
    My sets:
    1977 Topps Star Wars - "Space Swashbucklers"
  • I haven't had anything like this happen to me yet, but what about this dude?! I want to cry now after reading this.
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    I think this guy is an idiot!!!
  • BuccaneerBuccaneer Posts: 1,794 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I walked away and bought boxes and boxes of 1988 Topps and 1988 Topps Big instead >>



    Oh no!image >>



    It became even more tragic when I couldn't sell those boxes for 99-cents on eBay this summer. I said this another thread: it wasn't what I spent on the 87-89 garbage (it was all cheap) but what I didn't buy instead. Not just pre-war cards but high-grade vintage (mainly because I wasn't that knowledgeable about condition).
  • BigRedMachineBigRedMachine Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I traded what had to be a nm/nmmt Nolan Ryan rookie to my local card dealer in 1987 for a hobby box of 1987 topps and a $20 bill. image

    Guess the lure of Kal Daniels and Mike Greenwell rookies were too much to pass up. >>



    Don't forget Kurt Stillwell image

    Arthur >>



    Yeah, forgot about him.

    Thanks Arthur, I feel better now.

    shawn
  • About the time Fleer Basketball started to take off, 1987 or 1988 I think, I was at a local flea market and found a table with 1986 Fleer Bsk wax boxes. I had been looking for a set or box for a couple of years but I hadn't run across many and had passed up a set for $10 at a show the previous year (I got a 1987 wax box instead so not a total loss). I believe they wanted like $75 so being relatively young and poor wanted to think about it. An hour or two later I tracked down my sister to borrow the rest of the money I needed and went in search of the table.... they had already left for the day. Prices continued to shoot up after that and I still don't have my Jordan rookie to this day.

    Adam B. image
  • got a sweet mid-1950's Cleveland Indians team-signed ball from a family friend for my 9th birthday. I was so excited to get my hands on a ball actually held by big leaguers that I soon was outside throwing said ball as high as I could to test my fielding skills. Being 9, I missed more than a few and got some dirt stains on the ball. Disappointed that I'd left a few smudges on some sigs, I took a pen and retraced over some names. A shame, to be sure, but a lesson not only to me but my own son, who recently got the ball on his 9th birthday and enjoyed the story far more than I ever did the ball!
  • kimo75kimo75 Posts: 263 ✭✭
    Two come to mind for me:

    c.1988: Sold my entire NM or better Clemente collection(1956-73), to buy....Eric Davis and Dwight Gooden rookie cards!!!

    c.1995: Set up at a show to well my doubles, a dealer by me with some beautiful stuff. I purchased a 69 Banks for $10 (later graded PSA 9).
    Passed on the following: lot of Nolan Ryans 1968,1969,1970,1972 all in NM, for $500.

  • BigRedMachineBigRedMachine Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭
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    I'm starting to think that, as a group, we're not all that smart.
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    Perhaps we'll get better???

    shawn
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,392 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well once I ran out of tp and the only thing near me were my 5 t206 Wagners, and well a mans gotta do what a mans gotta do!
    Long story short. They didnt smell that nice anymore. Had to throw them away.
  • jskirwinjskirwin Posts: 700 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    I'm starting to think that, as a group, we're not all that smart.

    >>



    No, just human. At least we're all able to laugh about our mistakes.
  • How about my excellent care and handling of these babies when I was a kid:

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  • gregm13gregm13 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭
    I sold a signed Mickey Mantle card (I think it was a 1959 All Star card) for $15 - so I could buy a David Robinson Hoops rookie. My other "oops" was when I dropped a box of cards and my 1997 Tony Dorsett UD Legends slipped out of the top loader and smashed the top right corner..and I mean smashed. I was so mad that I ordered 2000 card saver II's and spent the next 2 weeks and threw out all my top loaders and put them in CS II's.

    Regards,

    Greg M.
    Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!

    References:
    Onlychild, Ahmanfan, fabfrank, wufdude, jradke, Reese, Jasp, thenavarro
    E-Bay id: greg_n_meg
  • A few come to mind...

    In 1990, I had a table at a show with a friend (little dinky 25 table show at a local gym). We had a Steve Largent rookie in one of those plastic cases that you had to move in a certain direction to get the card out (remember those things, it was like a puzzle to get your card out). Somebody had the great idea to use a key to get the card out, and what do you know, we keyed it, and keyed the card as well. Turned it from NM to G in the blink of an eye. Sad day for a 12 year old.

    In the early 90's, I had a significant portion of my collection into Star Basketball (maybe $2,000-$2,500 worth of stuff). That about says it all. For a young teenage entrepreneur, it was a big loss.

    Fun stories guys.
  • SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 5,152 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One day I was looking at my Nolan Ryan (raw) card collection. I have it in a 3" D-ring binder. Anyway, when I went to close it, it slipped and the rings popped open and closed real quick. When I got my act together and checked the cards again, I found the first page had slipped off the rings, and the top ring had put a nice little dent in the top left card. Unfortunately as most people would figure, the aforementioned card just happened to be my 1968 Topps Ryan rookieimage

    The damage actually isn't that bad, just a slight dent going thru Ryan's hatimage


    Steve
  • This goes back a few years....

    I was dating this extremely hot, and extremely crazy B-actress in LA. She was the quintessential hot bodied, almost psycho Hollywood chick. Anyways, she got mad at me because I looked at a girlfriend of hers a certain way (I was checking her out!) and upon getting home she took an unopened box of 84 OPC hockey out of my closet and threw it across the room into the fireplace!

    It doesn't end there. Of course, she then took a lighter to it and before I could blink an eye, my dreams of a perfect Yzerman, Neely or Chelios literally went up in smoke. That was the only time in my life someone violated my passion for the hobby. We broke up the next week and yes, she had to move out of my place and embarrassingly had to go back to her folks place in Palos Verdes.
    Her folks really liked me and were upset. They later called and apologized for their daughter's erratic behavior. They also told me she admitted to them she had a coke problem and was $22K deep in credit card debt.

    All this....over a great box of cards. I still haven't replaced the 84 box yet, but do have an equally hot wife who tolerates my "habit."

    Only in LA.

    Matt
    specialize in high end vintage hockey cards, several sets under the psa Registry "Matthew Pime"
    Hockey in the 1960's-1970's primarily.
  • RedHeart54RedHeart54 Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭
    Man, that has to be the first hot-B-actress-threw-my-cards-in-the-fireplace story I've ever heard. (And you baby boomers cringe at the thought of putting your '59 Mantles in your bike spokes!)

    BTW, here's the CNN account of the Picasso-

    LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Picasso's famed "Dream" painting turned into a nightmare for Las Vegas casino magnate Steve Wynn when he accidentally gave the multimillion-dollar canvas an elbow.

    Wynn had just finalized a $139 million sale to another collector of his painting, called "Le Reve" (The Dream), when he poked a hole in the artwork while showing it to friends at his Las Vegas office a couple of weeks ago.

    Director and screenwriter Nora Ephron, who witnessed and related the incident in her blog on the Huffington Post Web site (www.huffingtonpost.com), said Wynn had raised his hand to show the group something about Picasso's 1932 portrait of his mistress Marie-Therese Walter.

    "At that moment, his elbow crashed backward right through the canvas. There was a terrible noise," Ephron wrote, noting that Wynn has retinitis pigmentosa, an eye disease that damages peripheral vision.

    "Smack in the middle ... was a black hole the size of a silver dollar. 'Oh s**t,' he said. 'Look what I've done. Thank goodness it was me.' "

    Wynn's office Tuesday confirmed the story, an account of which also appeared in this week's issue of The New Yorker. Both accounts said Wynn had decided to release the buyer from the sale agreement and to repair and keep the painting himself.

    Wynn, a millionaire casino developer and art collector, developed The Mirage and Bellagio resorts in Las Vegas in the 1990s, which spearheaded a profusion of luxury hotels and casinos on the once-seedy Las Vegas Strip.
  • Disasters In the Hobby - hmmmmmmm, my disaster(wife) moves next week to Wyoming to live with the guy she met on Myspace.com.......You might call that a disaster, but I happen to refer to it as a saving grace to my collection, sanity and life....Ahhhhhh, I digress, but the person who says "NO, cards are stupid" is soon to be another idiots problem, and the $180 trips to the salon are long gone.....What to buy next as a gift to myself??? 1957 Unitas or 1957 Brooksie????? Let me know whatcha think.....???
    Collecting Interests:
    Ripken, Brooks & Frank Robinson, Old Orioles, Sweet Spot Autos, older Redskins - Riggins, Sonny, Baugh etc and anything that catches my eye. image

    My ghetto sportscard webpage...All Scans - No Lists!!! Stinky Linky
  • RedHeart54RedHeart54 Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭
    Both.
  • 30's R Want List:

    R73 1933 Goudey Indian Gum - Series 288 - Nos. 118
    Also looking for 1953 Parkhurst & 1953 Quaker Oats Ripley's BION.

    If you have any available for sale PM me
  • "I think mine looks like the double print one in your group of pics posted here"





    Cool. Then you have a Double Die or Double Print. Unsure if PSA grades those, I know GAI does. Unsure of "solid" value due to lack of sales and only sales I know of were FF friends who really wanted one. Congrats. Rare card. If interested in selling LMK. I can ask around.
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