Is this 1990 Frank Topps NNOF for real?

jmbkb4

advanced grading?

It is going really high. I paid $450 for my PSA 8 NNOF 6 months ago (from Levi at 707).

Anyways, is this legit? I've never heard of this co. before.

RipublicaninMass

DUUUUUDE!!!



...what do you think

ajw

I don't know...but would *you* send your legit NNOF card to that company?

Speaking of this card...just how rare is it? Can someone post the PSA population and SMR? I'm just curious.

gosteelers

Here's the pop report:

414 FRANK THOMAS NO NAME ON FRONT 0 4 6 11 23 0 67 0 16 0 0 127

SMR is 385-PSA 8, 600-PSA 9, and 1500-PSA 10

rbdjr1

Seller offers 7 day return previledges

Don't likey, return it!

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Stone193

Ya know...

I'm thinkn counterfeit?

mike

tedh111

I am guessing a 9 or a 10 would get multiples above the smr, especailly since he is really starting to knowck on the hall of fame door...

EagleEyeKid

I agree with you Mike.
If it was real, it would be in a different slab.

I'm not familar with this card cos I never saw one up close
or even knew of anybody that had one, but are the black lines
surrounding the card suppose to be missing in certain spots?

baseballfanatic

The only way I would bid on that card is if the seller accepted payment in $3.00 bills..............

PSAJIM

What makes you think this card is counterfeit???

DeutscherGeist

that is a legit grading company. They are like psa, but a much smaller company. their holders are really great. A few years ago, people bought cards in this slab and cracked them out to submit to PSA only because the same card slabbed by PSA sold for more.

I bought some nice cards in AGS holders with no problems. Their grading standards are really very good.

diamondman

<< <i>I agree with you Mike.
If it was real, it would be in a different slab.

I'm not familar with this card cos I never saw one up close
or even knew of anybody that had one, but are the black lines
surrounding the card suppose to be missing in certain spots? >>



the 2 NNOF Thomas I had were missing the black lines in the same spots and 1 had a faint black mark were the name would be.
sold both of them raw for 1400 & 1500.

bobsbbcards

CDsNuts

Looks like it might be a little short. Trimmed perhaps? Of course, you could buy it, break it out of the slab, and list it on ebay as perfect in every way. Sorry, couldn't resist.

Lee

jmbkb4

<< <i>Looks like it might be a little short. Trimmed perhaps? Of course, you could buy it, break it out of the slab, and list it on ebay as perfect in every way. Sorry, couldn't resist.

Lee >>


Intellectually sophisticated, as always. Strong work.

Still waiting on my "trimmed" Willie Greene to be returned to me by fight-FRAUD. But wait! A PSA 9 was recently awareded to a Willie Greene. And fight-FRAUD is nowhere to be seen. I know you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I'm not going to connect THOSE dots for you.

jmbkb4

<< <i>

Ya know...

I'm thinkn counterfeit?

mike >>


Why Stone?

pandrews

<< <i>but are the black lines
surrounding the card suppose to be missing in certain spots? >>



yeah i'm pretty sure all the NNOF variations are like that.. i believe this card is probably real and has probably been in that slab for several years..

Estil

The fact that the black lines surrounding the name part are missing is the best indicator of whether the card is real, thus in my opinion, despite the no name grading company, the card itself is the real deal. You'll also notice along the left border the middle part of the thin black borders is missing too. I read in a Beckett several years back about this. Notice in the picture too how the color looks a little paler? How the card got the error is that that piece of the black color printing plate was missing and did not make it onto the card with the other cyan/magenta/yellow colors. The fake NNOF cards though, were lazily done and only left out the name, and left the black line around the blue name tag intact.

DaBigHurt

How much did you pay for it?

TheMcgwireMuseum

That is definitely a real NNOF. And I have bought many Mark Mcgwire cards graded by them, and they almost always cross over to PSA in the same grades. They are at the top of my list for graded cards that I buy to crossover to PSA, way ahead of BGS.