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Mantle auto card being passed as authentic

downtowndowntown Posts: 671 ✭✭✭
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New to ebay reporting or contacting bidders...what can be done about this? Tried contacting high bidder, but ebay blocked my message since I am not in a transaction with this person.

Mantle Auto card on ebay


and did PSA slab these earlier in the day, or is this a custom/home job?
I collect Seattle Pilots autographs, 1969 Topps autographs, Signed Mickey Mantle Home Run History cards and have a JC Martin collection (he was my college Baseball coach)
Doug

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  • schr1stschr1st Posts: 1,677 ✭✭
    Removing comment for now.
    Who is Rober Maris?
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    The seller has always been reliable in my dealings with them.


    Why would PSA slab a card that was "questionable?"


    The siggy is pretty close, also.


    storm
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • diamondmandiamondman Posts: 2,020
    Signature looks good to me also, could be after one of his liquid lunches. image

    NOW edited to say I've had one to many . scam in process!
  • downtowndowntown Posts: 671 ✭✭✭
    Flip is labeled ? AUTHTCT

    cert #07172410

    Year: 1982
    Brand: ASA MANTLE STORY
    Player: 1957 WORLD SERIES
    Variety: PSA/DNA CERTIFIED
    Grade: Not Holdered, Questionable Authentication


    card is holdered
    what????
    I collect Seattle Pilots autographs, 1969 Topps autographs, Signed Mickey Mantle Home Run History cards and have a JC Martin collection (he was my college Baseball coach)
    Doug
  • craig19craig19 Posts: 648
    how did this card get into a holder? anything that i have ever submitted that got ? AUTH has been returned unholdered...
  • diamondmandiamondman Posts: 2,020

    According to the PSA Certification Database, certification number 07172410 is defined as the following:

    ITEM INFORMATION
    Year: 1982
    Brand: ASA MANTLE STORY
    Player: 1957 WORLD SERIES
    Variety: PSA/DNA CERTIFIED
    Grade: Not Holdered, Questionable Authentication

    Looks like this iinfo needs to be sent to EBAY!
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    Comparison Sig



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    Subject Sig



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  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like it may have been popped open too - bottom right has been tampered with.
    Mike
    Bosox1976
  • craig19craig19 Posts: 648
    why does it not say anything on the flip about psa/dna, if that is what it says in the psa database?
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "Looks like it may have been popped open too - bottom right has been tampered with."

    ///////////////////////////////////////////////


    The frost might just be a drop or torque hurt.

    I know the sellers and the chances that they
    would do that are zero, IMO.

    The card could have been holdered in error.

    storm


    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • baseballfanaticbaseballfanatic Posts: 2,415 ✭✭
    Darren is definately a class act. Maybe the card was consigned or like a lot of others have said, holdered by accident. With all the mechanical errors lately, this certainly wouldnt suprise me....
  • downtowndowntown Posts: 671 ✭✭✭
    however the card became holdered is not really the issue...

    the auction listing states it is an authentic autographed card by mantle...when the flip clearly says ?Authtct
    I collect Seattle Pilots autographs, 1969 Topps autographs, Signed Mickey Mantle Home Run History cards and have a JC Martin collection (he was my college Baseball coach)
    Doug
  • baseballfanaticbaseballfanatic Posts: 2,415 ✭✭


    << <i>however the card became holdered is not really the issue...

    the auction listing states it is an authentic autographed card by mantle...when the flip clearly says ?Authtct >>




    That I dont like either, over sight or not...........
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    They use a group of standard templates for
    all of the listings. The only unique entries are the
    titles and the one or two line description.

    If a helper is doing data entry, they probably only
    type in what is written on the instructions, and
    load the picture address in TL.

    The seller has been notified and when he gets
    the messages, he will take the appropriate action.

    Nobody is going to get ripped off on this one.

    storm
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Looks like it may have been popped open too - bottom right has been tampered with. >>



    No....it has not been popped open. It's legit, I've cracked enough of them to know. chaz
  • brianwintersfanbrianwintersfan Posts: 3,626 ✭✭
    I sent the seller a message about it and got no reply which I also don't care for. I have had one transaction with them and it went fine but this is an error that needs to be fixed asap.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "I sent the seller a message about it and got no reply........."

    //////////////////////////////////////////

    Since several of his customers have emailed him and
    gotten no reply, I can only suspect that he is away from
    his business/computer.

    He has, in the past, always responded fairly quickly.

    storm
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    It is amazing how many experienced buyers
    are bidding on the card.

    Does that mean that one picture is NOT
    worth 1,000 words?

    image
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • bigtime36bigtime36 Posts: 963 ✭✭✭✭
    Its not authentic, read any bood on how to recognize a fake sig, it has all the signs to look for, look how the I is dotted the swoops in the M's. Just really look at it closely and you'll see what im saying.

    Collect raw morgans, walkers, mercs, SLQ, barber q. Looking at getting into earlier date coins pre 1900s.

  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    I still cannot believe that nobody is looking at the
    question mark on the flip.

    Maybe the seller is out of town, because he has
    not replied to anybody who warned him about
    the error.

    It is a mystery.

    image
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • AllenAllen Posts: 7,165 ✭✭✭
    I had that on my watch list and did not notice it. Anyone ever figure out the deal here? Shouldn't it be in a card saver with the flip stuck down in it?
  • downtowndowntown Posts: 671 ✭✭✭
    schr1st was winning bidder of this card...he sells alot of auto'd cards...wonder if he noticed the flip...
    I collect Seattle Pilots autographs, 1969 Topps autographs, Signed Mickey Mantle Home Run History cards and have a JC Martin collection (he was my college Baseball coach)
    Doug
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    Based on the tiny sale price, I think most folks
    noticed the flip.

    Still have not heard back from the seller.

    image
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • brianwintersfanbrianwintersfan Posts: 3,626 ✭✭


    << <i>schr1st was winning bidder of this card...he sells alot of auto'd cards...wonder if he noticed the flip... >>



    He told me he bought it to get it off the market and he was going to take it up with PSA.
  • schr1stschr1st Posts: 1,677 ✭✭
    Exactly. How this card made it out the door of PSA is well beyond me, but I figured it was better to buy it and get it out of circulation, then let PSA deal with it. From the Certification database itself, it states:

    According to the PSA Certification Database, certification number 07172410 is defined as the following:

    ITEM INFORMATION
    Year: 1982
    Brand: ASA MANTLE STORY
    Player: 1957 WORLD SERIES
    Variety: PSA/DNA CERTIFIED
    Grade:Not Holdered, Questionable Authentication

    Looks pretty well holdered to me!

    image





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    << <i>schr1st was winning bidder of this card...he sells alot of auto'd cards...wonder if he noticed the flip... >>



    He told me he bought it to get it off the market and he was going to take it up with PSA. >>

    Who is Rober Maris?
  • schr1stschr1st Posts: 1,677 ✭✭
    Just to update: the seller refunded my $, stating that the card was holdered in error. I'm bummed, as I had been planning on making T-Shirts of it to hand out to people, then put it in a see-through pouch and hang it around my neck like one of Flavor Flav's clocks to every hobby event I attend.
    Who is Rober Maris?
  • khamarkhamar Posts: 3
    maybe the person selling i thinks it's real
    I have a mint booklet of 2cent Washington stamps 4pages w/6panes,with instructions on inside cover after last page of panes it's a scott#634
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