Sorry to hear he got bammed over what he said. But he wasn't the only one who got canned for stating their opinion. The majority of posters from the old OF are now on this site.
<< <i>Sorry to hear he got bammed over what he said. But he wasn't the only one who got canned for stating their opinion. The majority of posters from the old OF are now on this site. >>
I never did know what all the fuss was about with the OF. But when it closed a whole bunch of "new" people showed up in the USCF. NONE showed up in the Stamps Forum. LOL
It's an unfortunate turn of events, and PCGS has lost yet another willing and valuable customer (and one who actually submitted valuable coins).
Wildjag, that forum you posted does exist, but they treated me extremely rudely over there, calling me an "idiotic lying Jonestown drone". I can recommend another site that has a lot of professional and friendly people frequenting it: Open all day long.
Good luck, ZAR!!
.....GOD
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
What happened to ZAR sounds like a real injustice. Doesn't this forum have guidelines for when someone can be kicked off, and if so, does what happened even remotely sound like something he should get kicked off for? I can't believe that the moderator who kicked him off is prosecutor, judge, and jury all rolled into one and has total discretion in all cases.
"Men who had never shown any ability to make or increase fortunes for themselves abounded in brilliant plans for creating and increasing wealth for the country at large." Fiat Money Inflation in France, Andrew Dickson White (1912)
My suggestion is to not even inquire about it. Let's not rock the boat. The Darkside is a little island in the sea of madness, and the less attention we draw to ourselves the better. The moderator rarely even clicks on our little corner of the internet, so I suggest we not even bring our displeasure to their attention.
.....GOD
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
Call customer service. I'm sure if there are enough complaints through all channels they'll get the hint that something wrong happened and needs correction.
Of course, Jester's proposal has merit too. If the current policy is as draconian as reported there's the possibility that they'll just yank the forums altogether... which would be absurd on their part, but perhaps not out of character.
I saw the post. It couldn't have been more benign - completely unoffensive. ZARcoins was simply sacrificed.
.....GOD
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
<< <i> I can't believe that the moderator who kicked him off is prosecutor, judge, and jury all rolled into one and has total discretion in all cases. >>
That's just ridiculous. It's bad PR for the company and is bad for the hobby. If someone has the actual message(s) ZAR posted, I would recommend they send it to someone at PCGS (preferably a higher-up) and let them know what's going on.
Even judges' opinions can usually be appealed. This moderator must have a supervisor or boss. There must be someone at PCGS who can override this and who can see the damage this is doing.
"Men who had never shown any ability to make or increase fortunes for themselves abounded in brilliant plans for creating and increasing wealth for the country at large." Fiat Money Inflation in France, Andrew Dickson White (1912)
If we can come to agree that the banning was mostly unjustified we can appeal to the moderator. Really, this is only right. But with so little info it's going to be diff- icult to reach agreement.
Certainly Ilikezarcoins was hardly a troublemaker and it would seem he just stumbled into it.
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I'll miss him here and remember he's over there. Guess I'll add the NGC world forum to favorites.
09/07/2006
<< <i>Sorry to hear he got bammed over what he said. But he wasn't the only one who got canned for stating their opinion. The majority of posters from the old OF are now on this site. >>
I never did know what all the fuss was about with the OF. But when it closed a whole bunch of "new" people showed up in the USCF. NONE showed up in the Stamps Forum. LOL
Jerry
Wildjag, that forum you posted does exist, but they treated me extremely rudely over there, calling me an "idiotic lying Jonestown drone". I can recommend another site that has a lot of professional and friendly people frequenting it: Open all day long.
Good luck, ZAR!!
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
Dr J
My omnicoin collection (or how my coin photography has progressed)
As things downtrend, so do corporate attitudes. This "revenge" could have been relevant now, perhaps not so in a few weeks.
is that you end up being governed by inferiors. – Plato
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
My wantlist & references
My wantlist & references
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
<< <i>I saw the post. It couldn't have been more benign - completely unoffensive. ZARcoins was simply sacrificed.
I'm guessing it was deleted. I saw a few of his posts on the lightside but the majority were here.
<< <i> I can't believe that the moderator who kicked him off is prosecutor, judge, and jury all rolled into one and has total discretion in all cases. >>
I can and I have seen her in action.
Even judges' opinions can usually be appealed. This moderator must have a supervisor or boss. There must be someone at PCGS who can override this and who can see the damage this is doing.
the moderator. Really, this is only right. But with so little info it's going to be diff-
icult to reach agreement.
Certainly Ilikezarcoins was hardly a troublemaker and it would seem he just stumbled
into it.