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I wonder what Joe Torre will be thinking when he walks into the bosses office on Monday?

Torre is a good guy, I hope he doesn't get the axe.

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  • yawie99yawie99 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
    Would he even want to continue?
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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    I have to think management will want to make wholesale changes, but really, what can the yankees do?

    There is no team out there that will foolishly take up these contracts like the yankees have - they will have to sit on the contracts of guys like wright, pavano, and the other nobodies.

    Teams will salivate for players like Arod, but they aren't going to sacrifice young talent to get him.

    I don't suspect the yankees' future is too bright.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Torre will get his walking papers Id be willing to bet, but not deserving.
  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    I don't suspect the yankees' future is too bright.

    about time! while the mets made there mistakes they look solid now from building from the farm.
  • No way they fire torre, but massive changes need to take place, starting with the pitching staff. Trade Er-rod for a truck load of young arms. DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!
  • I agree about Torre, he doesn't deserve to get fired, but when is enough enough? 6 years with the highest payroll in baseball and ZERO World Series Trophies. We all know the Yankees only have .50 cents worth of pitching, but at some point the move has to be made.
    As for A-Rod, I can see teams giving up a young 3rd baseman and maybe one young pitcher, but because of the cost, the Yankees certainly aren't going to be able to "load up on young pitching" for this guy.
    Jay
  • gosteelersgosteelers Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭
    Do the Yanks bring in Joe Girardi for a visit???
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lessons learned.
  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭
    Torre will probably be fired, especially with Lou Piniella looming in the distance. That will be George's way of "shaking things up". After that? Who knows - $250 million? $300 million?

    What they should do is play a lot of the young guys that covered for the likes of Matsui and Sheffield during the summer. Of course, that might mean the Yanks would need a year or two to rebuild, and of course, they will never be patient enough for that.
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  • I give Torre a 70% chance of retaining his job. He can't win if he doesn't have the arms so it's tough to blame him.
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>I give Torre a 70% chance of retaining his job. He can't win if he doesn't have the arms so it's tough to blame him. >>




    Agreed. What was he supposed to do? The Yankees just got unlucky the past two days, in that they faced one pitcher who had a career game and another pitcher who pitched one of his finest games all season. There isn't much you can do about that. It's like running into a hot goalie in the NHL playoffs; all you can do is shrug your shoulders and go home.

  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    Bowa was brought in for this very reason ... my opinion.

    Love Torre to be a Phils mgr!
    collecting various PSA and SGC cards
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    But he was hailed as a great manager when he was winning...now he's not to blame because the team make up stinks?

    Can't have it both ways yankee jock sniffers...


  • << <i>But he was hailed as a great manager when he was winning...now he's not to blame because the team make up stinks?

    Can't have it both ways yankee jock sniffers... >>




    Who's giving Torre a hard time? He'll be back, and he'll win. Again.
  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    torre doesnt sign the players. big george should blame himself! mets made this mistake 2 times. back in the early 90's with bonilla and 2000's with big mo alomar etc...

    at least mets smartened up and built from within. didnt trade reyes or wright. probably should of traded milledge for zito this year but ohh well.
  • A761506A761506 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭
    I think Cashman quits, Torre quits and Girardi gets the job.

    The team will have a real tough time moving some of the guys they would like to trade, but A-Rod cannot and will not be around next season - he would be put into a position where it had literally no chance to succeed, with the fans ready to lynch him with every out and every error. They will have to pick up a large portion of his contract, but I cannot imagine a contending team having any interest in him with his post-season track record. I see him going to a place more along the lines of Milwaukee or even back to Seattle - teams that have some younger pitching talent that they could offer in exchange for the Yanks picking up the contract to the point that he would cost the new team about $8-10M per.

    Unless the Yanks eat millions of dollars to just release players or give them away in trades for draft picks or anything they can get for them (like they will definitely do for A-Rod), guys like Johnson, Wright, Pavano, Farnsworth & Giambi will be back.

    It's not looking great for the Yankees for the next couple of seasons. And huge 2007 options for Mussina, Rivera, Posada & Sheffield... there's no way they can pick up all of them. Honestly, I'd let them all go with the exception of Posada and retool from the ground up. Rivera is falling apart - his heyday has come and past. Mussina too old to go along with Johnson and Wrigh. Sheffield has no position and he's just plain bad at 1st base.

    George can't be a happy camper right now.
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    "Joe, maybe if we package you with the deal, we can get something for A-Rod?"
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,026 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tough call predicting what George Steinbrenner is going to do but I believe that Torre will be back. In any event, Steinbrenner will never have Larry Bowa as the manager - guaranteed.
  • If Torre comes back I'll be surprised. I don't think he gets fired. He lost two of his long time coaches Zimmer and Stottlemyre over the past few years. I think he walks and gets back into broadcasting. You have former managers on that staff--Bowa, Mazzili and Pena and several former Yankee coaches/managers available in Girardi, Showalter and Pinella. And we can't forget Donnie Baseball is on the staff right now and the type of player turned coach that could cool the back pages on the NY newspapers.
    Next MONTH? So he's saying that if he wins, the best-case scenario is that he'll be paying for it two weeks after the auction ends?

    Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12



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    Looking for Al Hrabosky and any OPC Dave Campbells (the ESPN guy)
  • stevek, what makes you so sure that Steinbrenner won't tap Bowa as manager?
  • detroitfan2detroitfan2 Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭✭
    Interesting:

    The Yankees have played in 7 ALDS. They are 4-0 when they lose game 1 and 0-3 when they win game 1. Who would've thunk it?
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    No way Girardi is the next yankees manager...he's far too strict for a team of overpaid vets to listen to and take seriously.
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