Pedro Martinez in Playoff mode...nice line
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pedro, who's your daddy now ? the braves?
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Not playing a meaningful game in what, 2 months? They're in lax mode and will be unable to turn it on...and it will be the biggest disappointment in recent history.
Or at least since the Mariners won like 125 games only to get bounced in the first round!
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Pedro stinks up the joint again, and you think either ny team is going to the series?
In fact yes, only because I know that's what you'd love to see!
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There are a couple of other boards that have sprung up to replace it, why don't you head on over to FF's 24 hour forums, and let this place air out a bit?
<< <i>Sharon, it's all right to disagree but why must you resort to name calling? >>
Why do you care Fudin?
There are a couple of other boards that have sprung up to replace it, why don't you head on over to FF's 24 hour forums, and let this place air out a bit?
What an ill-informed idiot you are, Ax. I've never even posted on the OF, clown, so you are wrong again!
I've also been a Mets fan (as anyone who followed the Mets in the 70s would know by my user name) for 30 years!
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<< <i> No, its because you're a recent ny sports 'fan' since your precious open forum was closed down.
There are a couple of other boards that have sprung up to replace it, why don't you head on over to FF's 24 hour forums, and let this place air out a bit?
What an ill-informed idiot you are, Ax. I've never even posted on the OF, clown, so you are wrong again!
I've also been a Mets fan (as anyone who followed the Mets in the 70s would know by my user name) for 30 years! >>
Ax wasnt even a sports fan until a few years ago when the pimples cleared up, he left the basement and realized chicks dont like D & D, at which point he found two teams that were doing well, the M's and Bucs.
-- Yogi Berra
<< <i>Or at least since the Mariners won like 125 games only to get bounced in the first round!
^^Ax doesn't "remember" that stuff. Much like he redicules the Giants, yet "his" team has yet to win a game this season. I guess it doesn't happen if you turn a blind eye to it, right Ax?
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You want to pile on at every opportunity, when the topic is pedro's pathetic line and the mets in a tailspin heading into the postseason?
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<< <i>Mets are still in first place by over 10 games. 4th best record in the MLB. Pedro is still not 100%, but come playoff time he'll do his thing. Buks and the Mariners are in last place in their respective divisions. In case you didn't know.
Pedro has been shelled for four straight starts I think. Can they afford to start him in a 3 out of 5 series? Randolph should have a quick hook ready if he does start.
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Pedro has been shelled for four straight starts I think. Can they afford to start him in a 3 out of 5 series? Randolph should have a quick hook ready if he does start. >>
shhhhh you're not allowed to be critical of NY based teams! They'll call you a 'hater'!
On the contrary, NY fans welcome good-spirited banter about their teams. Unfortunately, though, you feel the need to vent your anger about your own life by polluting these boards with unfounded accusations and name calling to make your "point". Newsflash, Ax: You have ZERO respect on these boards at this point. You are the embodiment of the true village idiot.
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You don't know how to process criticism of anything ny - after being force fed and brainwashed by the ny media, anything to the contrary is deemed as unmentionable.
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With that said, I'm not entirely sold on the Yankees. I think they're the favorite to come out of the AL, but not by much. Their record is 'more or less' going to be the same as that of the other 3 teams that come out of the AL, and they got a huge spat of games against the Orioles and D-Rays to help pad that. It looks like Wang is starting game 1, and I'll take either Kenny Rogers or Johan in that matchup. Meanwhile they haven't even named a fourth starter yet, and Randy has not looked all that dazzling this year... but they do have one of the most fantastic lineups in the past 30 years right now, so that could hide some of the pitching warts.
Anyway, I think it could be a compelling post season. If the Stros somehow back their way in they could be a very tough team to beat just because of their pitching.
I agree.
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<< <i>On the contrary, NY fans welcome good-spirited banter about their teams. >>
Except for banter about the Yankees' payroll. That seems to strike a nerve.
<< <i>I heard last night that Orlando Hernandez would likely get the first game start. Good grief, shows you how pathetic the NL really is. >>
I would take El Duque starting any game for the Yankees any day. He is a postseason monster.
-- Yogi Berra
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<< <i>On the contrary, NY fans welcome good-spirited banter about their teams. >>
Except for banter about the Yankees' payroll. That seems to strike a nerve. >>
Truth hurts.
By the way, nice to see I struck a nerve with the sig
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While it is impossible to predict playoff winners(the crapshoot factor), I would put my money with Houston again(in the NL) if they pull it off in the next few days. Their top of the rotation guys are second to none among all the playoff teams. Clemens is fresh too, unlike last year where he was hurt and worn down in the WS.
True that the NL's best teams are a big pile of pooh.
In the AL, my gosh, that Yankee lineup with Abreu is amazing. Even if the gay latin guy doesn't start hitting, it probably doesn't matter offensively. You gotta root for the Twins though. How could you not like Johan and Mauer? The absolute best pitcher in baseball, and the soon to be best player in baseball. They are a fun team, and I have to say I put my hands on the crystal ball before the season started, and had a hunch this could happen. The main reason was that there was going to be a big SLAPPING sound by the Dan Ryan...the sound of reality slapping the Sox pitchers in the face.
As for the Sox, I am sick of hearing all of these goofy reasons as to why the Sox didn't win ti again. I hear about Ozzie, about looking dead, and all the garbage. The fact is that their ERA is over a run higher than last year, and that accounts for 99.99999 percent of the reason why there aren't as good.
<< <i>The difference between the #1 and #2 team payrolls is higher than the entire team payrolls for 17 teams..... >>
yawn.
Maybe if the team you root for, which plays in one of the 5 richest cities in America ( wealthier on average than NY ) would open up their pockets and pay players you wouldnt see 3 of the greatest of our generation skip town. They have the means, but like many other teams and owners, refuse to give it their all to put a winner on the field.
-- Yogi Berra
<< <i>yawn.
Maybe if the team you root for, which plays in one of the 5 richest cities in America ( wealthier on average than NY ) would open up their pockets and pay players you wouldnt see 3 of the greatest of our generation skip town. They have the means, but like many other teams and owners, refuse to give it their all to put a winner on the field. >>
<< <i>Maybe if the team you root for, which plays in one of the 5 richest cities in America ( wealthier on average than NY ) would open up their pockets and pay players you wouldnt see 3 of the greatest of our generation skip town. They have the means, but like many other teams and owners, refuse to give it their all to put a winner on the field. >>
You obviously don't know much, do you?
Arod was offered $25 million per year. There was NO ONE who was going to match that payday, not even the yankees. It would have been a BAD investment to spend that large a percentage of the team payroll on one guy.
Griffey actually took *less* than what the M's offered to play closer to home for the Reds. Look it up.
And Unit? Well, his back problems became a big enough concern that management didn't offer to renew his contract, much like the red sox did when they let Clemens go. Both ended up being bad decisions, but hey, hindsight is 20/20.
But then, I am sure you already knew all that, didn't you?
As far as 'wealth', are you kidding? Do you grope for answers, and this is the kind of crapola you come up with?
They refuse to put a winner on the field? You really need to open your eyes, mr. simpleton. When the '3 of the greatest of our generation' left, please tell me how many games the M's promptly went out and won?
how are the texans doing buddy? I need to thank them for allowing me to win my fantasy football game based on brunell's nearly perfect day!
Mario's a bust, Bush is tearing it up...the Saints are 3-0, the texans are 0-3, despite having the opportunity to have this year's best player in the backfield. Instead, Ron Dayne is the savior?
What a joke!
<< <i>What a joke! >>
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<< <i>The Buks are 0-3. You have no room to talk, you and Stalin Suuuure have been quite quiet lately lol. >>
Ive been quiet?
Really?
How about them giants, or are you a jets fan this week?
The Bucs could just as easily be 1-2 as the giants could be 0-3, so you better keep your yap shut, ok troll?
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how are the texans doing buddy? I need to thank them for allowing me to win my fantasy football game based on brunell's nearly perfect day!
Mario's a bust, Bush is tearing it up...the Saints are 3-0, the texans are 0-3, despite having the opportunity to have this year's best player in the backfield. Instead, Ron Dayne is the savior?
What a joke!
<< <i>What a joke! >>
Still bitter that "your" Bucs are sitting at the same 0-3?
Pot meet Tinkerbell
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<< <i>Maybe if the team you root for, which plays in one of the 5 richest cities in America ( wealthier on average than NY ) would open up their pockets and pay players you wouldnt see 3 of the greatest of our generation skip town. They have the means, but like many other teams and owners, refuse to give it their all to put a winner on the field. >>
You obviously don't know much, do you?
Arod was offered $25 million per year. There was NO ONE who was going to match that payday, not even the yankees. It would have been a BAD investment to spend that large a percentage of the team payroll on one guy.
Griffey actually took *less* than what the M's offered to play closer to home for the Reds. Look it up.
And Unit? Well, his back problems became a big enough concern that management didn't offer to renew his contract, much like the red sox did when they let Clemens go. Both ended up being bad decisions, but hey, hindsight is 20/20.
But then, I am sure you already knew all that, didn't you?
As far as 'wealth', are you kidding? Do you grope for answers, and this is the kind of crapola you come up with?
They refuse to put a winner on the field? You really need to open your eyes, mr. simpleton. When the '3 of the greatest of our generation' left, please tell me how many games the M's promptly went out and won? >>
Typical long winded response that says nothing.
The point of my post was the M's have more than enough money to compete economically. Their owners choose not to because they couldnt care less.
Correct me if I am wrong, but arent the Mariners owned by Nintendo America ? Are they not a multi-billion dollar corporation ?
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<< <i>I've got to admit, The Texans were absolutely IDIOTIC for not drafting Reggie Bush. >>
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<< <i>The Buks are 0-3. You have no room to talk, you and Stalin Suuuure have been quite quiet lately lol. >>
Ive been quiet?
Really?
How about them giants, or are you a jets fan this week?
The Bucs could just as easily be 1-2 as the giants could be 0-3, so you better keep your yap shut, ok troll? >>
I'm a Giants fan, but I root for the Jets too(You won't find any Jets flags hanging in my house, or jerseys in my closet but I still cheer for them). Woulda coulda shoulda, Buks are 0-3. Same record as the Texans.
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Typical long winded response that says nothing.
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Really? It means nothing that the M's offered Griffey plenty of money, but there was no money that could buy his desire to play close to home? Or that Arod got a once in a lifetime contract that no team in their right mind would match?
<< <i>The point of my post was the M's have more than enough money to compete economically. Their owners choose not to because they couldnt care less. >>
You couldn't be further from the truth.
<< <i>Correct me if I am wrong, but arent the Mariners owned by Nintendo America ? Are they not a multi-billion dollar corporation ? >>
But, unlike the yankees, they don't receive hundreds of millions in revenue from their TV network...and that's why you will never ever understand the business aspect of baseball.
NY teams are at a distinct advantage when it comes to revenue, and revenue that can be put back into baseball. Nintendo would be FOOLISH to spend $200 million on a baseball team - it's not financially sound.
When you decide to learn about the economics of baseball, shoot me a message. As it is, you're as happy as a pig in stink to be ignorant on the matter.
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<< <i>So what? Point is the M's owners don't pony up the money. End of discussion. The Yankees were FAR from their popularity status 15-20 years ago. If you have and RETAIN your marquee players and build a franchise the fans will come. The Mariners don't do that. >>
They don't have the hundreds of millions in tv revenue the yankees do, and that's why TRUE revenue sharing and a salary cap are so desperately needed in baseball.
But then, when you have such an advantage like you do in NY, why would you ever want more competition?
You guys just don't get it...never have, never will.
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Typical long winded response that says nothing.
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Really? It means nothing that the M's offered Griffey plenty of money, but there was no money that could buy his desire to play close to home? Or that Arod got a once in a lifetime contract that no team in their right mind would match?
<< <i>The point of my post was the M's have more than enough money to compete economically. Their owners choose not to because they couldnt care less. >>
You couldn't be further from the truth.
<< <i>Correct me if I am wrong, but arent the Mariners owned by Nintendo America ? Are they not a multi-billion dollar corporation ? >>
But, unlike the yankees, they don't receive hundreds of millions in revenue from their TV network...and that's why you will never ever understand the business aspect of baseball.
NY teams are at a distinct advantage when it comes to revenue, and revenue that can be put back into baseball. Nintendo would be FOOLISH to spend $200 million on a baseball team - it's not financially sound.
When you decide to learn about the economics of baseball, shoot me a message. As it is, you're as happy as a pig in stink to be ignorant on the matter. >>
First, because you say something is further from the truth, does not actually make that a fact, despite what you believe.
Second, whether through TV revenue or the sales of BILLIONS of dollars in game systems and games, both the yankees and Mariners bring in a comparable amount of $$ for the purpose of this discussion.
I am well aware of the economics of baseball, which again you have confusion of not realizing that because you say something does not make it a fact.
Once again you are showing, for the amusement of all, that you are a dope.
-- Yogi Berra
<< <i>You are a moron to think that a business like nintendo is going to divert their profits to run a baseball franchise. You're grasping at straws in a pathetic and desperate attempt in order to make the mariners ownership out to be some sort of stingy penny pinchers. >>
Whether its Nintendo or Steinbrenner, they are businessmen. One chooses to reach into their own pocket to put a product on the field, and one doesnt. Spin it with your warped, twisted mind any way you like, that is the facts.
Without a doubt the owners are penny pinchers. Maybe you should take up your neverending rage with them and realize you as a fan are being cheated by billionaires.
-- Yogi Berra