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Crossing over from BCCG?

Any success? This guy has a ton of these for relatively inexpensive $$.

Clemens BCCG
Trying to complete:
2000 Bowman Chrome
2002 Topps Heritage NAP
2003 Topps Heritage chrome and seat relics
2006 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
2007 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
2008 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
2006 Topps Heritage and Topps Chrome football

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  • The Beckett BCCG cards, unlike BGS and BVG, are graded in an adjoining broom closet at Beckett by Stevie Wonder................
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The Beckett BCCG cards, unlike BGS and BVG, are graded in an adjoining broom closet at Beckett by Stevie Wonder................ >>

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    BCCG is equal to GEM, PRO, BBC, STD.......you get the idea. I would not buy anything BCCG

    Matt


  • << <i>The Beckett BCCG cards, unlike BGS and BVG, are graded in an adjoining broom closet at Beckett by Stevie Wonder................ >>



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    That's got to be the Post of the Day
    Next MONTH? So he's saying that if he wins, the best-case scenario is that he'll be paying for it two weeks after the auction ends?

    Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12



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    Looking for Al Hrabosky and any OPC Dave Campbells (the ESPN guy)
  • bri2327bri2327 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭


    << <i>The Beckett BCCG cards, unlike BGS and BVG, are graded in an adjoining broom closet at Beckett by Stevie Wonder................ >>



    C'mon now....at least Stevie Wonder would be able to feel creases and dinged corners. Done diss him like that !
    "The other teams could make trouble for us if they win."
    -- Yogi Berra

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    BCCG is equal to GEM, PRO, BBC, STD.......you get the idea. I would not buy anything BCCG

    Matt >>



    Becasue of this fact, I am very surprises that people respect Beckett at all for grading.
  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭
    I could be wrong, but isn't "makingthegrade" the same as "4 sharp corners?"

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  • rbdjr1rbdjr1 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭
    It seems I've owned this card forever, I have another nice PSA example, in my set registry, so I'll wind-up never knowing if it would cross over (I own a PSA 9 in my set!)... image


    rd

    edit: The 1976 Perry is fairly a tough card: 16 graded PSA 9's, ...and only one PSA 10.


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  • BCCG10 is usually equal to a psa or BGS 8, but you can sometimes find some that are 9's or 10's...
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  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>BCCG10 is usually equal to a psa or BGS 8, but you can sometimes find some that are 9's or 10's... >>



    Thank you. Unless someone has actually submitted to BCCG, OR owned a bunch of BCCG cards, then they aren't in a position to evaluate their services.

    I have submitted a fair amount to BCCG, and what I've found is that a low end BCCG 10 is roughly equivalent to a BGS 8.5. And, as the poster above me noted, you can sometimes find very nice cards in these holders that were submitted by people who were new to grading and saw that the BCCG service costs less than the BGS. If given a choice between a BCCG 10 and a PSA 8 I'd take the BCCG every time. Once you get below a 10 on the BCCG scale, though, you start getting into PSA 6-7 quality cards.
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>BCCG10 is usually equal to a psa or BGS 8, but you can sometimes find some that are 9's or 10's... >>



    I dont know guys. While this may be a valid point, I am sure finding high grade psa cards in BCCG slabs is a rarity. Not syaing it wont happen because Boopotts brought up a good point when he said:



    << <i>you can sometimes find very nice cards in these holders that were submitted by people who were new to grading and saw that the BCCG service costs less than the BGS >>



    Again though this would be a rarity.

    I would say most of the BCCG garbage you see on ebay is being sold by dealers that know the cards would grade lower if a premium grading service was used.

    That said, I still wouldnt by one.

    matt






  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>BCCG10 is usually equal to a psa or BGS 8, but you can sometimes find some that are 9's or 10's... >>



    I dont know guys. While this may be a valid point, I am sure finding high grade psa cards in BCCG slabs is a rarity. Not syaing it wont happen because Boopotts brought up a good point when he said:



    << <i>you can sometimes find very nice cards in these holders that were submitted by people who were new to grading and saw that the BCCG service costs less than the BGS >>



    Again though this would be a rarity.

    I would say most of the BCCG garbage you see on ebay is being sold by dealers that know the cards would grade lower if a premium grading service was used.

    That said, I still wouldnt by one.

    matt >>



    You can find a lot of NMT-MT or NMT-MT+ cards in BCCG 10 slabs. You are right, though, in that you won't find any MINT cards in BCCG slabs being sold by dealers who know what they're doing.
  • TZAHLTZAHL Posts: 649 ✭✭
    I remember a post earlier where someone had a BCCG 10 crossover to a PSA 10 I think. Of course I would try to pay PSA 8 price for a BCCG 10 and then hope for some luck on the crossover. I think a BCCG 10 would have a better chance at getting a 9 or 10 than a raw card.
    Trying to complete:
    2000 Bowman Chrome
    2002 Topps Heritage NAP
    2003 Topps Heritage chrome and seat relics
    2006 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
    2007 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
    2008 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
    2006 Topps Heritage and Topps Chrome football
  • schr1stschr1st Posts: 1,677 ✭✭
    Certainly looks like it (location and auction template). Looks like Beckett cut them a better deal than PSA.



    << <i>I could be wrong, but isn't "makingthegrade" the same as "4 sharp corners?" >>

    Who is Rober Maris?
  • I think you can get BCCG for 2.50 each in 1,000 or more quanity...
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  • The BCCG numeric grades do not follow the industry standards. A BCCG 10 definitely isn't generally the quality of a PSA/SGC/GAI/BGS 10, but in general, they are fairly consistent/reliable graders, for what they are. That said, they are nothing like GEM/PRO, in that BCCG does not exist just to grade trimmed/fake cards. What I can say is that I've crossed over several BCCG cards into PSA slabs. Most come over in the same condition or one condition lower. Note, I'm talking about the condition (EXMT, NM, NMMT) on the label, not the NUMBER assigned, since the BCCG numeric grades are a joke (see below).

    A rare few of my BCCG crossovers have actually crossed over into a "higher condition". For example, I once crossed over a 1972 Jabbar from a BCCG 9 (NM+) to a PSA 9 (NMMT). See here: 72 Jabbar

    Because BCCG doesn't have a numeric grade for each industry standard grade (there is no number for NMMT, for example), the crossover results are sometimes surprising because you don't know whether a BCCG 9 is NM, NM+, NMMT, or NMMT+, as SGC might label it. The (misleading) BCCG numeric grades go like this:

    10 Mint+
    9 Near Mint+
    8 Excellent+
    7 Very Good+
    6 Good+
    5 Poor+
    1-4: They don't give these, as far as I know
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