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Rating the major auction houses for their archive access

The best learning resources on the web are the major auction house's archives.
How well do the search engines and layout of these auction houses archives help the collector?

I used the generic searches of "1877 Indian Head", "1877 Indian Cent", or "1877 1C" for the sake of this post.

1) Heritage - without a doubt the best, but they were so much better before they made you log in every freakin time you
did a search. That major aggrevation aside, Heritage's specific archive menus and clear, adjustable results layout still rocks.

2) American Numismatic Rarities - without a doubt the next best, and getting better. Their searches need to be less
specific -- 1877 1C worked, 1877 Indian Head and 1877 Indian Cent came up with no results. But they are on the
right track and getting better.

3) Bowers and Merena - it goes downhill from here. Bowers' archive is very accessible and well designed, but
their search engine is weak. The best I could do were 19 "1877 Indian Cent" results no matter how I tried to reformat
the search.

4) Ira & Larry Goldberg - great sight for browsing the archives but don't even try to figure out the convoluted search engine.

5) Stacks - this website has improved by lightyears in 1 year, but still no search engine for past auctions.

6) Superior - the only archives I can find on this site are price's realized by lot #. A total waste of time.

Comments

  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    I agree with you. Normally, I only use Heritage, very frequently.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭✭
    1) Heritage - without a doubt the best, but they were so much better before they made you log in every freakin time you
    did a search. That major aggrevation aside, Heritage's specific archive menus and clear, adjustable results layout still rocks.

    2) American Numismatic Rarities - without a doubt the next best, and getting better. Their searches need to be less
    specific -- 1877 1C worked, 1877 Indian Head and 1877 Indian Cent came up with no results. But they are on the
    right track and getting better.

    3) Bowers and Merena - it goes downhill from here. Bowers' archive is very accessible and well designed, but
    their search engine is weak. The best I could do were 19 "1877 Indian Cent" results no matter how I tried to reformat
    the search.

    4) Ira & Larry Goldberg - great sight for browsing the archives but don't even try to figure out the convoluted search engine.

    5) Stacks - this website has improved by lightyears in 1 year, but still no search engine for past auctions.

    6) Superior - the only archives I can find on this site are price's realized by lot #. A total waste of time.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,639 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Where does Teletrade fit in your list?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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  • RickMilauskasRickMilauskas Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭
    I love Heritage's archives!
  • PhillyJoePhillyJoe Posts: 2,705 ✭✭✭✭
    Agreed Heritage has the best.

    Also agree that Superior does not provide much help just giving lot #'s.

    Teletrade has limited access for how far back you can search, but I keep interesting sales in my "Track & Bid"
    section, some of those sales are 4 or 5 years old. I think the tracking max is 200 items.

    Ebay's completed sales are shown for 90 days I believe.

    Joe
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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    Don't care for their images usually, but Heritage's archives are the best, hands down.
  • 123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Don't care for their images usually, but Heritage's archives are the best, hands down. >>

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  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    Where does Teletrade fit in your list?

    This thread was about major auction houses. Teletrade is the guy selling watches on the corner of Madison & 5th.
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,160 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I use the heritage archive almost on a daily basis. I can count on one hand how many times I've used those other archives.
  • TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,054 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I agree with you. Normally, I only use Heritage, very frequently. >>




    Same here I find tha Heritage provides easy access to their auction archives.

    TorinoCobra71

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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,177 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Heritage: wonderful! I also don't like having to log in every time, but I guess that's the price one pays.
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    I never knew that 3,4,5 and 6 had archives! I really like Heritage's archives, but I agree that ANR's search results don't give me the warm and fuzzies that everything is coming up properly.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,639 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Where does Teletrade fit in your list?

    This thread was about major auction houses. Teletrade is the guy selling watches on the corner of Madison & 5th. >>



    Say what you will about TT, they have a very extensive archive that I find quite useful for coins costing less than six figures.












    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭

    I agree with Shylock. The archives are a great source of learning, but I would certainly include TT in this mix.
    Heritage is best despite the need to log in every FREAK'N time image, followed by ANR and then TT. The remaining four are so difficult to use that I rarely bother.

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,133 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Where does Teletrade fit in your list?

    This thread was about major auction houses. Teletrade is the guy selling watches on the corner of Madison & 5th. >>



    Say what you will about TT, they have a very extensive archive that I find quite useful for coins less costing than six figures. >>




    TT is very useful for current trends.
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    Heritage #1 by far
    ANR #2 - usable, but not great
    All the rest - not useful
  • AZLARRYAZLARRY Posts: 1,189 ✭✭
    I only use Heritage, very easy to navigate.
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  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,639 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't know about the ANR archive. Pistareen claims he once used the term "testicular fortitude" in a description, but that phrase comes up empty in their search engine image
  • As a former IT exec it blows my mind that Heritage is the only auction company to understand how valuable their archieve information is!!

    When Heritage states that they have over 100,000 clients, or whatever the number is, a good portion of that number comes from the fact that they require you to register to use the archieves. Then they can (1) track everything you do when you're logged in, (2) use some computer intelligence to directly market to you (3) flag potential customers to their sales reps for followup contact. What a simple, cost-effective way to build a customer database and market to it!

    Lets face it, in this business information is the most valuable asset any of these companies have. Heritage is by far the leader in recognizing this and making the right kind of technology investments to maintain a huge competitive advantage.

    I am available, at a huge cost, for consulting work with any of the other companies. image
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  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I always use Heritage when looking up auction archives. I do agree though, it does get annoying because you have to log in everytime but it's worthed.

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