Anyone that can help me I would appreciate it. Ebay, Paypal problem
lawnmowerman
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I am getting the run around by a seller on ebay. First of all he didnt reply to my emails asking if the cards were shipped. I won two of his cards for a total of $373.00. I paid with my credit card so I am not worried about getting my money back because I know I will, I just want the cards. He is telling me since he received such a large amount of money to his paypal account they wont let him access the money. Anyone ever hear of a situation like this? Here is his email to me:
<< <i>i've had problems with paypal before, i know its not your problem, but i'm not going to send something when i cant get the money for it. that's why im trying to work something else out. the only things i can do is refund the money, i cant use it myself. if i dont get the limitation off, then paypal keeps the money for 6 months before they can give me any money. so basically, that's like not having any money at all and being in the hole for 6 months. i want to send the cards to you but i wont until i can actually have the money in my bank account or hand. so i really dont see the big problem in trying to pay in another way, and like i said, i will reduce the amount that you have to pay. just tell me what you want to do and ill give you your money back so we can do it, you have nothing to worry about. >>
I have never heard of paypal doing this but then again I am more of a buyer then a seller. He is saying he cant get to his money yet he goes on to say that if I pay in another way he will refund my paypal payment.
Matt
<< <i>i've had problems with paypal before, i know its not your problem, but i'm not going to send something when i cant get the money for it. that's why im trying to work something else out. the only things i can do is refund the money, i cant use it myself. if i dont get the limitation off, then paypal keeps the money for 6 months before they can give me any money. so basically, that's like not having any money at all and being in the hole for 6 months. i want to send the cards to you but i wont until i can actually have the money in my bank account or hand. so i really dont see the big problem in trying to pay in another way, and like i said, i will reduce the amount that you have to pay. just tell me what you want to do and ill give you your money back so we can do it, you have nothing to worry about. >>
I have never heard of paypal doing this but then again I am more of a buyer then a seller. He is saying he cant get to his money yet he goes on to say that if I pay in another way he will refund my paypal payment.
Matt
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<< <i>Get him to give your money back and find the cards elsewhere. I can only assume he is talking about the $500 per month withdrawl limit and maybe he sold $3000 worth of cards so it will take 6 months to get it all out? Otherwise I say he is BS'ing. I say just get a refund and move on. >>
I checked his completed auctions and the total amount possible in his acount from ebay sales is at the most $ 600.00. He is a new seller.
matt
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Maybe all he needs to do is to upgrade his Paypal account to a Preferred or Business account or it is possible he needs to go thru the verification process, to verify his bank account(s), credit card(s), etc.
This has come-up before, and this Seller needs to call Paypal, and I'm sure Paypal has an answer for him and can "fix this Seller's problem". Maybe he "became to big for his own britches"?
I would email him if he cannot fix the problem with Paypal have him refund u asap!
Sounds pretty fishy!
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He offered to do the refund, take him up on it. Get your money back first and then play the negotiation game as to how to go about re-paying for the auction.
He could be getting hosed by paypal--he could have several seller accounts linked to that paypal account and the sum of all the parts could be pushing him over his limit and hence, he's limited on getting his money. We're talking paypal here, so anything is plausible...one thing is apparent--he doesn't want to get nailed by those paypal fees and that's why he probably just has a personal account.
Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12
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<< <i>i have a preferred account, everything is verified, but they are asking for my social security number, proof of suppliers, proof of inventory, and all this other paperwork. its not just some little easy thing, otherwise it would have been done already. >>
Again, anyone ever hear of paypal doing this?
Matt
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edit to add: Go for the refund Matt--just go for the refund.
Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12
Looking for Al Hrabosky and any OPC Dave Campbells (the ESPN guy)
call Paypal Customer Service 402-935-2017 if that number can't help you out....they will connect you to the right department. If they say that you HAVE to log on and do it from a computer, ask to speak with a higher up...they will handle it there...TRUST ME!!
<< <i>I emailed him asking him about his paypal account and here is his response:
<< <i>i have a preferred account, everything is verified, but they are asking for my social security number, proof of suppliers, proof of inventory, and all this other paperwork. its not just some little easy thing, otherwise it would have been done already. >>
Again, anyone ever hear of paypal doing this?
Matt >>
Nope.
I wouldnt even correspond with him anymore. File with PP, your C.C. company and get your money back. Im sure the cards were ones you will find again soon enough.
-- Yogi Berra
<< <i>I emailed him asking him about his paypal account and here is his response:
<< <i>i have a preferred account, everything is verified, but they are asking for my social security number, proof of suppliers, proof of inventory, and all this other paperwork. its not just some little easy thing, otherwise it would have been done already. >>
Again, anyone ever hear of paypal doing this?
Matt >>
Paypal will do this if there is, in their mind, reasonable suspicion that something funny is going on. They pulled this on a friend of mine who was selling a lot of items (totalling into the thousands of dollars) to Europe (specifically Germany). He was selling them from a US based eBay account, listing them on the international sites, and collecting payment via Paypal. They froze his account with all funds intact and the process to resolve everything took several weeks. They flagged certain auctions of his and requested receipts, bills of sale, or other paperwork to indicate that he purchased them legally. Everything had to be mailed to their company offices for review. It was not an easy process to say the least.
Go for the refund
<< <i>Paypal had done that to a number of people on the us coin forum and it sounds like the same situation. Usually it is with peoples who have large transactions or inconsistancies ie many 5 dollar transactions than one big one. Sounds like he has to call paypal and give them the info they want. Usually SSN etc. One of the biggies from the US coin forum was Laura sperber from Legend numismatics.
Go for the refund >>
all that information...... They wanted copies of drivers licences,
invoices showing purchases and other personal information."
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Both companies are doing it now.
The one positive aspect of the very burdensome process is that
if you comply with their request, they will always resolve the
matter in your favor.
Many people refuse to comply either because the task of providing
receipts for vast numbers of items is too daunting, or because they
just do not want to give out their private info.
If anybody gets snagged by the "capture honest sellers because
we cannot catch real crooks but need to look like we are trying to"
net, they can PM me and I will help them through the process at
no charge. The process is a little faster for PowerSellers, but still
takes about a week to work through the "appeals system."
Failure to comply with their requests, whether you are guilty or
not, always results in NARU on eBay and "lock-out" on PayPal.
In the situation that is the subject of this thread, the best thing
to do is to ask for a refund immediately. At the first sign of
hesitation on the part of the seller, call PayPal first. They will
likely fix your end of the problem really fast. If they do not, your
CC company will refund you in any event. (Most people know this,
but for those who do not: PayPal often cancels the accounts of
people who do not give PayPal a chance to fix the problem first.
People who go to the CC company first, often end up with a
cancelled PayPal account.)
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