My modern crap grades are in...Fast!! How did I do?

jmj3esq

Order #20054587

Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade

1 1 10458211 96819 1979-S 50C Type 2 US PR67DC
2 1 10458212 6722 1974 50C US MS65
3 1 10458213 6728 1976-S 50C Silver US MS68 WOW!!!!!!
4 1 10458214 6713 1970-D 50C US MS64
5 1 10458215 6711 1968-D 50C US MS66
6 1 10458216 6709 1966 50C US MS67 DOUBLE WOW!!!!!!
7 1 10458217 6845 1965 50C SMS US MS65
8 1 10458218 7422 1976-S $1 Silver US MS66
9 1 10458219 7411 1972-S $1 Silver US MS66
10 1 10458220 9634 1989-D $1 Congress US MS68
11 1 10458221 5898 1976-S 25C Silver US MS66

Total Items: 11

Date Received: 9/5/2006


Date Shipped: N/A

tpfnar

I think a WOW and a DOUBLE WOW is pretty good

Russ

<< <i>How did I do? >>



Did you want the straight scoop, or happy talk?

Russ, NCNE

jmj3esq

Is that 1966 50C MS67 as nice as I think it might be?

Russ

<< <i>Is that 1966 50C MS67 as nice as I think it might be? >>



Yeah, it's HUGE. Probably $1500 to $2000.

Russ, NCNE

jmj3esq

Nice!! It cost me $4.50 a few weeks ago.

Russ

That assumes, of course, that it's actually a business strike and this isn't a PCGS database error.

Russ, NCNE

TwoSides2aCoin

<< <i>Nice!! It cost me $4.50 a few weeks ago. >>



Don't tell them where you got it, okay ?

coinman420

<< <i>Nice!! It cost me $4.50 a few weeks ago. >>







ok, that makes it a rip
































oh yeah.... you SUCK!!!

jmj3esq

I hope its not an SMS. I bought it by itself and it was not labeled SMS. How can you tell?

coinman420

the pcgs coin # should be different. i`m sure they can tell the difference

Russ

<< <i>I hope its not an SMS. I bought it by itself and it was not labeled SMS. How can you tell? >>



Sometimes you really can't. Some SMS coins are obvious because they have very prooflike qualities, but many later strikes can look just like business strikes. The PCGS number on your submission - 6709 - indicates business strike. The SMS coin would be 6846. Did you record it as a business strike on the submission form?

PCGS tends to err on the side of caution with these coins, so if they holdered it as a business strike they'd be very convinced that it is.



<< <i>i`m sure they can tell the difference >>



I wish that were actually the case, but I've seen too many that they've screwed up.

Russ, NCNE

coinman420

ok, just checked, yours is not sms

jmj3esq

I labled it as a business strike becuase that is how I purchased it. I do know that it has no proof like qualities. If I recall correctly it has a little rainbow tone towards the top of the obverse.

Russ

<< <i>If I recall correctly it has a little rainbow tone towards the top of the obverse. >>



Toning on these helps convince the graders that it's a business strike. In fact, many of the 1965 to 1967 kennedys in business strike holders at MS66 and above are toned.

Russ, NCNE

jmj3esq

Im still not sure how PCGS could id a SMS coin over a poorly struck coin with an older die. Is this truly something I should be worried about or is it just a product of nay sayers out there?

TwoSides2aCoin

<< <i>Im still not sure how PCGS could id a SMS coin over a poorly struck coin with an older die. Is this truly something I should be worried about or is it just a product of nay sayers out there? >>



I'd say : "flip it" and disregard all feelings.

jacktheknife

What, no MS70 Lincoln cent?!

Jack

TAClough

Listen to "TwoSides2aCoin"


Sounds like great advice, you must already have an offer on it

bushmaster8

<< <i>Im still not sure how PCGS could id a SMS coin over a poorly struck coin with an older die. Is this truly something I should be worried about or is it just a product of nay sayers out there? >>



It is a real problem. So much so that many have given up submitting business strikes for fear of the "SMS Curse".

richardshipp

Congrats.

30% of my last submission (also my first) was BB'd

PQpeace

pm sent

Russ

UH OH! Let the battle begin!

Russ, NCNE

jmj3esq

30% of my last submission (also my first) was BB'd

That is ironic. My first was alo 30% BB'd. This was my first submission without a BB. I hope this means im getting a better eye.