Eli Manning ....
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played one hell of a game today. He was sacked almost at every turn seemingly ..... he had big bad Eagles in his face all the time ....Eli withstood and played the best game of his career IMO. I think he has stepped up a level .....
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Eli took what the Eagles gave him. Had they not played friggin prevent defense for the 4th quarter, it would have been a different ending. That said, Eli did what he was supposed to do - throw underneath and conplete passes and move up the field.
Why teams go into shut down mode when they get a lead is beyond me. They should have continued to play the same way, same pressure, same offense.
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Eli did do a great job in keeping his composure and my hat is off to him, good job and great win.
But, it was more the Eagles choking than anything the Giants did.
<< <i>Tell you what that game winning TD pass was a ridiculas call. If that floater got picked Eli would have been run out of town on a rail. >>
Plax is the jolly green giant (no pun intended) and THAT is why a pass route like that is a good idea. You can say that about any play at ant time in any sport man. What did you want the Giants to do? Be super duper cautious and not try and win the game ?
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<< <i>I'm not much of an Eli Manning fan, but I do have Plaxico Burress on my fantasy team so - nice play!
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Being a "fan" of a player or not being a "fan" of a player should not be the question. This is the biggest thing you struggle with Jerry when you form analysis in baseball and football. You let your hatred for a certain cities teams and players completely cloud rational thought. For instance, I can't stand Manny Ramirez. I despise him. I would never ever try and argue that he is a inferior or average player though. That is what you do Jer ....
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<< <i>Tell you what that game winning TD pass was a ridiculas call. If that floater got picked Eli would have been run out of town on a rail. >>
Plax is the jolly green giant (no pun intended) and THAT is why a pass route like that is a good idea. You can say that about any play at ant time in any sport man. What did you want the Giants to do? Be super duper cautious and not try and win the game ? >>
I dont know what you meen by "Super Duper cautious" but maybe a safer 5-10 yard play instead of throwing it up like that, Eli gets sacked= out of FG position, picked off = wasted scoring chance to win, Im not sure if you agree 100 % with that call but the majority of people say the Giants got lucky. I stand by my opinion...ridiculas call
<< <i> I dont know what you meen by "Super Duper cautious" but maybe a safer 5-10 yard play instead of throwing it up like that, Eli gets sacked= out of FG position, picked off = wasted scoring chance to win, Im not sure if you agree 100 % with that call but the majority of people say the Giants got lucky. I stand by my opinion...ridiculas call >>
It is no secret that Eli saw the MISMATCH on coverage against Plax. and audibled that play becuase of that. He was one on one with a guy a foot shorter then him. In no way was that just "throwing the ball up" It was audibled by ELi given the one on one mismatch on defense and a well thrown ball.
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Well put, soft. Eli's pass was hardly reckless. He saw a golden opportunity and took advantage of the mismatch on that TD to Burress. In my mind, settling for a FG attempt, where anything can happen (block, miss, etc.) was far more risky than Eli's TD pass.
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Any other QB in the league with THAT many weapons would be at least as good. Can you honestly say you've ever see Eli make the people around him BETTER ?
Any other QB in the league with THAT many weapons would be at least as good. Can you honestly say you've ever see Eli make the people around him BETTER ?
Let me guess: frustrated Eagles fan??
Eli is in his SECOND full season as the starting QB. He will only get better with time. It doesn't matter how "pretty" your ball looks, it's all about winning and the Giants have been doing that on a relatively consistent basis for the last year or so.
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he throws a friggin knuckleball for heavens sake.
he throws a friggin knuckleball for heavens sake.
Yeah, what a knuckleball to SMOKE the big bad Eagles in OT!
You obviously know very little about football. Isn't there an open forum you can post such nonsense in?
No wonder you guys got nowhere to go!
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Well put, soft. Eli's pass was hardly reckless. He saw a golden opportunity and took advantage of the mismatch on that TD to Burress. In my mind, settling for a FG attempt, where anything can happen (block, miss, etc.) was far more risky than Eli's TD pass. >>
Are you kidding me? You think that play was much less risky than a running play or a 5-10 yard pass? More risky than a FG attempt? Well we will see how many times that type of play will work.
grote - do you actually think that was a safe call? I think you need a little football 101
Man, you Eagles fans are in true denial aren't you. Still hurts blowing that big lead, huh?
Eli saw the mismatch and took advantage of it, simple as that. Why bother playing for the FG when you can score a TD? Why chance a block, a muffled snap, etc.
For pete's sake, they weren't even in FG range! Unless you call a 50-yd FG a chip shot? Sounds like you need the refresher aconte. Too many teams play it so safe that they wind up losing in the end by outsmarting themselves.
I mean, look at the Patriots last Sunday. Big bad Bill iced his own freakin rookie kicker trying to play it cute. Just make the play, man. That's what winning teams do. I think you are just blinded by your dejection at getting burned by a talented QB in a game where you guys CHOKED big time!
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Than a 49-yard FG attempt? Most certainly I do. Eli saw the mismatch, took advantage of it, and won the game. Easy as pie.
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are you someone else "reincarnated"? I wonder
Is your new comeback going to be "you don't know much about football"?
Looks like there's another arrogant jerk who likes to sling ridiculous accusations when he can't make his point otherwise.
I am not anyone "reincarnated". Another error on your part, and not the last I'm sure.
P.S. Eagles still choked.
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But, since he plays in NY, every tiny thing he does is amplified to the max, and sports fans outside NY are forced to endure what a 'great' player this guy is.
grote, your inability to accept any criticism of your players makes you a perfect fit as a NY 'fan'.
Thanks, Ax, I appreciate the compliment.
I'm still waiting for the Bucs to score a TD.
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<< <i>risky than a FG attempt?
Than a 49-yard FG attempt? Most certainly I do. Eli saw the mismatch, took advantage of it, and won the game. Easy as pie. >>
Your funny...oh wait let me give you one of your favorite emotions... there ya go. OK who is saying they needed to make the FG attempt there? Thats why Im saying that horrible pass was a bad call, if it was incomplete then you got a 49 yard attempt. You throw a safe (higher % pass) for 5-10 yards and you got yourself a closer FG attempt. Whatever if you cant see my point then whatever, the Giants prolly wont even make the playoffs anyways so this will be a forgoten topic soon enough.
<< <i>Did demonstrate quite a bit about his intestinal fortitude. >>
Intestinal fortitude sounds like what happens to me when I eat bad mexican food.
If Eli is as tough in Seattle as he was in Philly then we have something GOIN ON baby
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Yeah, that "play for the FG" strategy worked real well last year in Seattle!
I just don't understand how you can say that a TD pass that was the result of a mismatch that Eli took advantage of could be called a "bad call".
Nice Yankee avatar, though, btw!
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it was terrible pass coverage, and the ball was a floater.
Eli's had quite the tendency to throw bad, 4th quarter interceptions in his career, he's just lucky that one wasn't picked off.
Still waiting for that first Chris Simms' TD pass. Maybe it'll come this week! Oh yeah, who was that WR you were raving about again in preseason. Clay something, yeah he's great, too!
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<< <i>Eli's had quite the tendency to throw bad, 4th quarter interceptions in his career, he's just lucky that one wasn't picked off.
Still waiting for that first Chris Simms' TD pass. Maybe it'll come this week! Oh yeah, who was that WR you were raving about again in preseason. Clay something, yeah he's great, too! >>
Why won't you address the topic at hand? Oh! I know! It's because, in typical ny 'fan' fashion, you are unable to process data that is critical of any ny team. Instead, spin it away from the faults of the team.
You really are a dipchit.
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<< <i>Eli's had quite the tendency to throw bad, 4th quarter interceptions in his career, he's just lucky that one wasn't picked off.
Still waiting for that first Chris Simms' TD pass. Maybe it'll come this week! Oh yeah, who was that WR you were raving about again in preseason. Clay something, yeah he's great, too! >>
Why won't you address the topic at hand? Oh! I know! It's because, in typical ny 'fan' fashion, you are unable to process data that is critical of any ny team. Instead, spin it away from the faults of the team.
You really are a dipchit. >>
I think you are confusing your personal feelings and opinions with that of fact and critical data....most likely the reason nobody gives you a straight answer anymore...because everyone on here realizes that it is a waste of time and effort. No matter what is said, no matter what facts are presented, and no matter what is debated, you will find a way to argue, spin, and change the subject, going on and on and on endlessly like some crazed mental patient.
In the end, it becomes easier and much more gratifying to just respond with the only thing you truly are worthy off....
DOPE
-- Yogi Berra
The pass to Burress was nice. He recognized the mismatch and took advantage. If that were any other time, other than in OT it wouldnt be considered reckless. However, when you just need to score to win, that is taking a big chance. But... who cares, burress makes the catch game over Giants win.
On to this weeks games
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I think you are confusing your personal feelings and opinions with that of fact and critical data....most likely the reason nobody gives you a straight answer anymore...because everyone on here realizes that it is a waste of time and effort. No matter what is said, no matter what facts are presented, and no matter what is debated, you will find a way to argue, spin, and change the subject, going on and on and on endlessly like some crazed mental patient.
In the end, it becomes easier and much more gratifying to just respond with the only thing you truly are worthy off....
DOPE >>
It's a waste of time yet you can't help but wet your panties in anticipation of my next post.
If it's such a waste of time, as you so eloquently put it, then why do you?
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I think you are confusing your personal feelings and opinions with that of fact and critical data....most likely the reason nobody gives you a straight answer anymore...because everyone on here realizes that it is a waste of time and effort. No matter what is said, no matter what facts are presented, and no matter what is debated, you will find a way to argue, spin, and change the subject, going on and on and on endlessly like some crazed mental patient.
In the end, it becomes easier and much more gratifying to just respond with the only thing you truly are worthy off....
DOPE >>
It's a waste of time yet you can't help but wet your panties in anticipation of my next post.
If it's such a waste of time, as you so eloquently put it, then why do you? >>
I DIDNT debate or discuss anything with you...I just answered why someone doesnt bother debating with you...because you are an ignorant, argumentative DOPE.
-- Yogi Berra
Why, bri, why? Why are you so reluctant to just say no?
<< <i>And here you are posting yet another reply, after already stating how you feel its an enormouse waste of time.
Why, bri, why? Why are you so reluctant to just say no? >>
what a stooge you are...you really dont get it !!!!!!!!!!!
-- Yogi Berra
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<< <i>And here you are posting yet another reply, after already stating how you feel its an enormouse waste of time.
Why, bri, why? Why are you so reluctant to just say no? >>
what a stooge you are...you really dont get it !!!!!!!!!!! >>
haha I understand that you, on one hand, want to play the whole 'we are *so* above you Axtell! We can't even be bothered to reply to you!' Yet, on the other hand, like a moth to the flame, you come back, time and time again, only to get burned.
Are you a glutton for punishment?
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<< <i>And here you are posting yet another reply, after already stating how you feel its an enormouse waste of time.
Why, bri, why? Why are you so reluctant to just say no? >>
what a stooge you are...you really dont get it !!!!!!!!!!! >>
haha I understand that you, on one hand, want to play the whole 'we are *so* above you Axtell! We can't even be bothered to reply to you!' Yet, on the other hand, like a moth to the flame, you come back, time and time again, only to get burned.
Are you a glutton for punishment? >>
Must be...cuz you burn me EVERY time !!!!!!!!!!!
what a dope.
-- Yogi Berra
How curiously predictable you are.
<< <i>And here you are, still furiously typing away, sweat dripping down, angrily typing in the middle of the night in response to someone YOU yourself said wasn't worth responding to.
How curiously predictable you are. >>
LMFAO
i am typing furiously away !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am typing 1/10 of what you are, and working on listings the entire time while endlessly laughing at you with others via message......you are just so stupid you wouldnt have the first clue !!!!!!!!!!!!
good stuff, that just made my night ya dummy !!!
-- Yogi Berra
<< <i>grote-
it was terrible pass coverage, and the ball was a floater.
Eli's had quite the tendency to throw bad, 4th quarter interceptions in his career, he's just lucky that one wasn't picked off. >>
Saw the mismatch, smartly audibled play change, perfectly thrown and executed ... that with his 4th Quater play = NFC Offensive player of the week.
Good job Eli
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