Absolutely Unbelievable!
ssgunnip
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I just received negative feedback from a guy with a positive message. Can you believe this? The guy buys a $2.50 card, says "Great Card" and negs me? I already left him a positive even though he paid me very slowly. I am sorry everyone, but I am never leaving feedback for a buyer again until they have left it for me. I am furiuos over this. You try to by nice and do the honorable thing and people stab you in the back.
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I too am sorry to say that I have also begun waiting to leave positive feedback until I get it. I hate doing that, but, well, you know. I'll admit that, as a buyer, there are people I've not left ANY feedback for that I would've left a negative for (a deserved negative), but decided not to as they'd not yet left feedback for me and I knew I'd get it in return. It SUCKS that that is the case, but I don't want retaliatory feedback. The system is flawed to say the least.
I will say that I have 2 notes on my calendar right now that mark the final day feedback can be left for 2 items. The seller deserved big time negatives, but i haven't done it yet b/c i know i'll get it right back. but i just can't let these slide....too atrocious. SO....I'm gonna leave feedback on the last possible day it can be left and hope the seller doesn't see it in time to leave me a retaliatory negative. if he does, oh well....it was worth it.
Specifically regarding your situation, perhaps it was an error????? I doubt it, but maybe. I would write and find out what the friggin deal is there. Maybe he'll w/draw the feedback....it would have to be mutual, but maybe worth a shot?
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<< <i>I wonder if the guy made a mistake and clicked "negative" instead of "positive"??? >>
Yeah but........if you attempt to leave a neg ( or a nuetral) for someone you are sent to a second page which basically says: Are you sure you want to leave a neg for this transaction???........You have to confirm on this second page before the neg becomes official.......it makes mistakes like y'all speak of more difficult.......
1955 Bowman Raw complete with 90% Ex-NR or better
Now seeking 1949 Eureka Sportstamps...NM condition
Working on '78 Autographed set now 99.9% complete -
Working on '89 Topps autoed set now complete
<< <i> What really sucks about this is I am in the middle of selling $1000 plus of football cards on ebay. >>
one negative shouldn't hurt.
1955 Bowman Raw complete with 90% Ex-NR or better
Now seeking 1949 Eureka Sportstamps...NM condition
Working on '78 Autographed set now 99.9% complete -
Working on '89 Topps autoed set now complete
<< <i>2 things:
I too am sorry to say that I have also begun waiting to leave positive feedback until I get it. I hate doing that, but, well, you know. I'll admit that, as a buyer, there are people I've not left ANY feedback for that I would've left a negative for (a deserved negative), but decided not to as they'd not yet left feedback for me and I knew I'd get it in return. It SUCKS that that is the case, but I don't want retaliatory feedback. The system is flawed to say the least.
I will say that I have 2 notes on my calendar right now that mark the final day feedback can be left for 2 items. The seller deserved big time negatives, but i haven't done it yet b/c i know i'll get it right back. but i just can't let these slide....too atrocious. SO....I'm gonna leave feedback on the last possible day it can be left and hope the seller doesn't see it in time to leave me a retaliatory negative. if he does, oh well....it was worth it.
Specifically regarding your situation, perhaps it was an error????? I doubt it, but maybe. I would write and find out what the friggin deal is there. Maybe he'll w/draw the feedback....it would have to be mutual, but maybe worth a shot? >>
Hi Gonzoa,
I want to do the same for two idiots too, but do you know for sure that after you leave a negative and 3 months have passed that they will not be able to reply back with a retaliatory feedback? E-bay really needs to do something about the feedback system. How wrong is it that some fool with 0 or -1 feedback can retaliatory feedback someone who is at 100% with over 1000 transactions when they do not pay for something?
Mark
1992-93 Topps Basketball PSA 9 or 10
1976 Topps Baseball PSA 9 or 10
1981 Topps Los Angeles Dodgers PSA 9 or 10
1982 Topps Los Angeles Dodgers PSA 9 or 10
1986 Topps Los Angeles Dodgers PSA 9 or 10
1975 Topps Wacky Packages Series 15 PSA 9 or 10
Request his contact information through eBay and call the guy up. If you can actually talk to someone, you can figure out exactly what's going on and get it resolved (much more effective than e-mailing). As long as you are nice on the phone, you should have no trouble at this point getting him to agree to retracting. If he has a problem with the card, tell him to just keep it and you'll send him a refund, as long as he agrees to retract.
As a seller, I always leave feedback once payment is received if it's for a graded card, but if it's for a raw card, no feedback unless it's left for me.
Mark:
Honestly, I can't say for sure, no. This will be my first attempt at this. I read ebay's policies and the 90 day rule seems to apply to both buyer and seller. There is no clause about being given an opportunity to leave feedback to feedback after the 90 days is up. That being said, I just don't know for SURE that that is the case. I'm gonna try though. It's worth the risk to me on this one. I'd hate to lose my 100% undeservedly, but it would be worth it if I did.
jdogg172004
Collecting:
Brett Favre Master Set
Favre Ticket Stubs
Favre TD Reciever Autos
Football HOF Player/etc. Auto Set
Football HOF Rc's
great seller, thanks
smokey3399( 403) Feb-14-01 06:12 1107027441
Reply by fiveniner1: HOW DO I RECIEVE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK ON HIS COMMENTS?????????????????????
GREAT TO DEAL A+++++++++++
Follow-up by mlb2430: THIS WAS A POSITIVE FEEDBACK HIT THE WRONG BUTTON- GREAT BUYER THE BEST
At the time there was no process for removing an error, and I've never bothered to follow up.
Please keep us informed of how that works out for you. I would be very interested to know if it works. Thanks.
Arthur
No problem, and will do. I was going to say that I would have an answer ASAP. Today is the 90th day IF IF IF I count the day of purchase as one of the 90 days....should I? or should I start the 90 day count with the first day after the sale??
either way, I may need to wait until tomorrow. This deadbeat seller finally called me back today and is promising my refund by tomorrow....maybe he knows the 90 day rule and is waiting it out, i'm not sure.
****after all this time, i finally got the call back from him. HOW?, you ask. easy (sort of) . I found out where he worked and left a message at his office saying now that I knew this, he needed to look to get me my money w/in 24 hours or look for a new job. Like I said....I can be vengeful if I need to. Then, I wrote the other 4 people he'd ripped off in the recent past, and gave them his work # too. (((I even left "been caught stealing", a song by janes addition, on his work answering machine
So, I will have to wait until tomorrow when I get my refund to leave the negative. Hopefully tomorrow will count as the 90th day, not today. If it IS today, I'll have to wait until the next one rolls around to try this out. And YES, I WILL still be leaving a negative even after I get my refund. Nobody should have to go through all that just to get their own money back.
Sniping a neg like you plan just does not work.
I have left feedback past the 3 month period.
many have tried what you intend to do and it just does not work.
As for the original poster I can't see how someone can leave a neg by accident.
Steve
Seeking primarily PSA graded pre-war "type" cards
My PSA Registry Sets
34 Goudey, 75 Topps Mini, Hall of Fame Complete Set, 1985 Topps Tiffany, Hall of Fame Players Complete Set
You are agreeing to a contract -- You will enter into a legally binding contract to purchase the item from the seller if you're the winning bidder. You are responsible for reading the full item listing, including the seller's instructions and accepted payment methods. Seller assumes all responsibility for listing this item.
The contract is between the seller to sell something and the buyer to buy something. As a seller, the most that you can reasonably expect from the transaction is to sell the item and receive payment. As a buyer, the most that you can reasonably expect from the transaction is to pay for and receive the item. Does either party expect a friendship to develop? No. Does either party expect some kind of business relationship to develop? Probably not. All you expect is to receive the benefit of your bargain.
As such, once the buyer has made and the seller has received payment, the seller has received the benefit of his bargain. At this stage, what more could the buyer do to fulfill his contractual obligations? I think nothing. That is why I believe the onus should be on the seller to leave feedback first and not the buyer. I buy and sell regularly on ebay and always leave feedback after I have received payment. However, as a buyer, I do not leave feedback until after I have received the item.
As a buyer, how can anyone expect the buyer to leave positive feedback before receiving the benefit of his bargain, e.g. receiving the card in the mail? As to the issue of the item getting lost in the mail, that would depend on whether the item is F.O.B. the place of shipment or F.O.B. the place of destination, but that's another issue.
/s/ JackWESQ
As a buyer, how can anyone expect the buyer to leave positive feedback before receiving the benefit of his bargain, e.g. receiving the card in the mail? As to the issue of the item getting lost in the mail, that would depend on whether the item is F.O.B. the place of shipment or F.O.B. the place of destination, but that's another issue.>>
JackWESQ,
This topic has been described often on these boards. Your thoughts above very succinctly describe the feelings of those, myself very much included, who believe that the seller should leave positive feedback upon timely receipt of payment. I also happen to believe that for top notch sellers, the "happiness" or "satisfaction" felt by a customer who receives feedback first benefits the seller (in gaining a pleased customer and thus a repeat customer) far more than the occassional unwarranted negative feedback harms the seller. That is why sellers like dslsports, joesvintagesportscards, the various 4-sharp corners, and others leave feedback upon receipt of payment. They know they will deliver a quality product, well packaged, and in a timely manner, and thus more than 99 times out of 100 they will receive positive feedback in return. Not sure how Steve Hart operates, but he is highly respected on these boards. Does he leave feedback first?
I'd also like to say to those who feel it's time to cease selling lower priced (under $15) items because it seems the winners of those auctions are always the ones causing problems. That very well may be true, but you might want to consider whether or not that has to do with the fact that the majority of sales are under $15, and maybe that's why the majority of issues are there. To me, it's similar to the dreaded "75 % of all accidents occur within 10 miles of home" statistic. Uh, maybe that's because 75% of the time that people are in the car they're within 10 miles of home.
Anyway, just my thoughts. I'm one of those guys who buys a lot of sub $15 items, I don't want all my stuff drying up . . .
but never the other way around sheesh!